***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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SPSAg05 said:



Go time?



LOL !!!!! WAT? Go time because of a reporter getting fraggged???? LOL
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angus55 said:

Eliminatus said:

As awful as it sounds, I still doubt it. Embedded journalists have always been a weird gray area in these kinds of things.

Definitely a step in that direction though.

Also, **** Putin.


Have we been ramping up any forces to Europe if they strike? I have heard of smaller movements, but if they strike are we going to throw in a smaller force? If we are forced go it needs to be with overwhelming force. Kick them out of Ukraine and then ensure Putin understands Ukraine is defended going forward.


I would imagine any initial NATO strike would be missiles and aircraft strikes. I don't see NATO sending in the small number of ground troops that are staged nearby before they were reinforced with much bigger numbers from elsewhere in Europe.
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Nato won't considered "attacked" unless such an attack occurred in Nato soil...

Nato supply getting attacked in Ukraine is not considered Nato...
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PJYoung said:


The other side of that coin is that the absence of US special forces may have emboldened Putin.
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Decay said:

MeatDr said:

Some possible confirmation NATO will retaliate if convoys are attacked.



This strikes me as very odd. We seem to be capitulating at every turn but we're supposed to believe NATO will defend vehicles and supplies they've taken into a war zone?

This is a very different stance if so.


Long overdue if you ask me. Hopefully they follow through.
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hope this is true...but won't bet on it
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Don't trust the name.
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G Martin 87 said:

PJYoung said:


The other side of that coin is that the absence of US special forces may have emboldened Putin.
"More" ?
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We've been training the Ukrainians for years
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That I knew. I was just commenting on the confirmation that we have SOF there now.
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Dorm 15 said:

That I knew. I was just commenting on the confirmation that we have SOF there now.


That's not a confirmation of that, it's a denial
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That was some precise shooting. Has there been a change in airborne assets command and control directing to precise targets?
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Decay said:

MeatDr said:

Some possible confirmation NATO will retaliate if convoys are attacked.



This strikes me as very odd. We seem to be capitulating at every turn but we're supposed to believe NATO will defend vehicles and supplies they've taken into a war zone?

This is a very different stance if so.
NATO transports supplies to the Polish border with Ukraine.

Ukraine then transports the supplies across the border and into the war zone.

Ukrainian convoys inside Ukraine have always been at risk of attack.

NATO is saying any strike against its convoys in NATO territory will be treated as an attack on NATO.
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Leadership.
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may not have been many air defense assets in the area.

Russia caught them by surprise
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W said:

may not have been many air defense assets in the area.

Russia caught them by surprise
In a training facility?
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it's a surprise.

a Russian attack that actually worked like it was supposed to.

maybe the fact that is was so far in the western part of the country helped
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are the Russians finally getting their act together?

sounds like some military leaders have been replaced...and the new guys are making adjustments
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Maybe? Blowing up buildings full of people hasn't been their problem to this point. Actually disabling strategic assets has been.
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Attempts to silence Melitopol.

Spaceship, I hope your BIL is doing ok.

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W said:

are the Russians finally getting their act together?

sounds like some military leaders have been replaced...and the new guys are making adjustments


Could be that Russia is just sharing more info and sharing some of their successes.
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Damn right he's a leader!
Slava Ukraini!
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Pretty obvious the training facility was being used to stage foreign fighters and foreign supplies. Can't be surprised it was attacked. Russia has been saying for days now they would attack.
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SPSAg05 said:



Leadership.


The man is pure inspiration.
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ATX_AG_08 said:




That would be a real disaster
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angus55 said:

Eliminatus said:

As awful as it sounds, I still doubt it. Embedded journalists have always been a weird gray area in these kinds of things.

Definitely a step in that direction though.

Also, **** Putin.


Have we been ramping up any forces to Europe if they strike? I have heard of smaller movements, but if they strike are we going to throw in a smaller force? If we are forced go it needs to be with overwhelming force. Kick them out of Ukraine and then ensure Putin understands Ukraine is defended going forward.


We don't want to provoke Putin.

Seriously, one of the associates in the secretary of states office was asked that question on sky news and she mentioned sanctions, but "we don't want to take any action that will be perceived as a provocation "
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I found an interesting map website. Not sure if it's been posted before.

https://liveuamap.com/
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The only way this ends faster is for more Russians to die much more quickly.


We aren't giving them aircraft, what defensive weapons do they not have that will increase the body count?
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