***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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5:53a, 3/9/22
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Amazing the equipment Russia is losing…





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6:16a, 3/9/22
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Has this Pentagon rejects Polish plan to give fighter jets to U.S. to supply Ukraine story been discussed here yet?
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Another $40M Russian plane destroyed

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In reply to Ulysses90 • 6:51a, 3/9/22
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Rapier108 said:
TRM said:
Also possible that only certain types of their PGMs actually work, and they don't have very many of those, while most of their PGMs are useless junk. They tested/expended a lot of their newer PGMs in Syria.


Every mention in the news of the absence of Russian PGMs reinforces to me that the corrupt chain of command has been diverting funds allocated for random testing and inventory management and replenishment into their pockets. The old andeclining increasing unreliable stick of PGMs is what they have on hand.

Consider the temptation to pocket funds for random testing and replenishment. That funding is enough to elevate the standard of living for many Colonels in the bureaucracy.
If I'm Putin and have that ruthless Russian gene, some Colonels get a .22 long in the back of the head. If that were to happen in the US an extended stay at a Super Max near you. That stuff is straightup treason against whatever nation.
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6:55a, 3/9/22
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Thought this already was in place…



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In reply to Red Pear Realty • 7:05a, 3/9/22
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Are their pilot remains visible in that first picture?
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First abandoned or destroyed commercial vehicle in Russian service that I've seen.

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7:09a, 3/9/22
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Good read. Putin's first blunder was invading Ukraine but his worst blunder will be trying to occupy it. It will bleed Russia dry. He badly needs an off ramp and exit option. .

Updated: Russian Occupation of Ukraine Troop-to-Task Estimate
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If Russia's invasion succeeds, the Russian Federation will assume de facto responsibility for the well-being of approximately 19 million people. That is equivalent to the population of the American states of New York or Florida. It is also approximately 14% of the current estimated population of Russia. In terms of landmass and population, this will be by far the largest occupation attempted by the Soviet Union or the Russian Federation since the Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe in the years after World War II. Much of the infrastructure needed to sustain the Ukrainian population in the occupied zone is presently being destroyed. Occupation officers will find themselves responsible for supporting millions of people and rebuilding their cities while fending off an active, NATO-backed insurgency. A dedicated joint civil-military and counterinsurgency force will be needed to give the Russians any hope of successfully managing these tasks.
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If this occupation troop to task estimate seems high, points of comparison might be useful. When the Soviet Union began its unsuccessful occupation of Afghanistan in 1979, Afghanistan had a population of approximately 13 million people. At the peak of its counterinsurgency operation, the Soviets had approximately 100,000 troops in Afghanistan supported by an equivalent number of Afghan troops and militiamen. At the end of 2011, two years before the Islamic State seized one-third of the country, the U.S.-led coalition, and the Iraqi security forces fielded approximately 750,000 troops and police to control approximately 30 million people. Applying the oft-referenced 2% troop-to-population ratio (an approach I advise against) suggests the need for 380,000 troops in Ukraine with another 380,000 troops in constant rotation for a total of 760,000 Russian occupation troops.
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Russia has at least two distinct advantages and faces at least seven significant disadvantages in a prospective occupation. Proximity to the Russian border and relatively flat terrain provide good access for logistics and air support, and Russian intelligence officers have a good understanding of Ukrainian language and culture. They will not face the same cultural challenges the United States faced in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

However, Russia's aggressive destruction of Ukraine's infrastructure will make the occupation costly and onerous. Based in part on this RAND examination of insurgency dynamics, the Russians will also be challenged by the existence of a large sanctuary in western Ukraine; strong external support for the insurgency; the probable emergence of a hybrid rural-urban insurgency (which are particularly difficult to dig out); the probable lack of a legitimate partner government in Kyiv; probable lack of any reliable partner security forces to defray the cost of all of these occupation tasks; and, primarily, the very low likelihood that the Russians will seek or be able to address the root causes that will drive the insurgency. Russians destroying Ukraine today are fueling the will to kill Russian soldiers tomorrow and for years to come.
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In reply to aTmAg • 7:14a, 3/9/22
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aTmAg said:
Has this Pentagon rejects Polish plan to give fighter jets to U.S. to supply Ukraine story been discussed here yet?
YES IT HAS
NATO
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In reply to Ghost of Bisbee • 7:32a, 3/9/22
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Can't wait to see the effects of Russia taking a 100 year step backwards after this mess is done.

This destruction is getting to me. Seeing the video of Russian tanks killing civilians in their cars choked me up today.

Is there any credibility to reports of Ukes using civilian vehicles as suicide bombs against Russian military?
It's impossible to justify what the Russians are doing to civilians.
I think the only thing I've seen of a Uke suicide attack was on like day 2 and a Uke soldier blew himself up destroying a bridge.
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In reply to jbanda • 7:41a, 3/9/22
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jbanda said:
Are their pilot remains visible in that first picture?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure thats what left of a body in the first pic
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In reply to 74OA • 7:56a, 3/9/22
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74OA said:
aTmAg said:
Has this Pentagon rejects Polish plan to give fighter jets to U.S. to supply Ukraine story been discussed here yet?
YES IT HAS
NATO
What is the consensus?

Did Poland think it had the approval and announced publicly and then Biden pulled the rug?

Is Poland trying to shame the rest of NATO into doing what is right?
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7:58a, 3/9/22
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Why would the Russians not want Chernobyl protected? That makes no sense on any level.
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In reply to jbanda • 7:59a, 3/9/22
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jbanda said:
Are their pilot remains visible in that first picture?


I saw some gunk on the ground in the 1st pic.
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In reply to 98Ag99Grad • 8:04a, 3/9/22
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Why would the Russians not want Chernobyl protected? That makes no sense on any level.

Seems like they are completely unaware which way the winds blows this time of year. They could be creating a dirty bomb that would spew nuclear fallout over western Russia.
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In reply to BD88 • 8:11a, 3/9/22
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If Russia inadvertently (or intentionally) causes a nuclear incident on foreign soil as part of their stupidity... the world is going to go from sanctions and supplies to something next-level
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 8:12a, 3/9/22
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HTownAg98 said:
98Ag99Grad said:
Why would the Russians not want Chernobyl protected? That makes no sense on any level.

Seems like they are completely unaware which way the winds blows this time of year. They could be creating a dirty bomb that would spew nuclear fallout over western Russia.


If there is a compromise and Z stays in power - this could the reason to invade again. He won't stop
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In reply to aTmAg • 8:18a, 3/9/22
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74OA said:
aTmAg said:
Has this Pentagon rejects Polish plan to give fighter jets to U.S. to supply Ukraine story been discussed here yet?
YES IT HAS
NATO
What is the consensus?

Did Poland think it had the approval and announced publicly and then Biden pulled the rug?

Is Poland trying to shame the rest of NATO into doing what is right?


After reading the words of all leaders on this issue, I think it's either of these two:

We're running a political fumblerooski or no one wants to actually be the one to send in the planes but wants to take the political capital for being willing to provide them.

I happen to believe it's the latter.
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ETA:
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In reply to BD88 • 8:57a, 3/9/22
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I understand the motive behind this action, but it's easy to see it backfiring. Once you've taken everything from someone and they've nothing left to lose, they're gonna come out fighting like a cornered animal hellbent on death, whether yours or theirs. This tactic does not make any sense to me, it will further steel the resolve of Ukrainian fighters and that's even worse for Russia based on how this war is going for them.
Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception.
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In reply to aTmAg • 8:58a, 3/9/22
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aTmAg said:
Has this Pentagon rejects Polish plan to give fighter jets to U.S. to supply Ukraine story been discussed here yet?
Nevermind these planes may be of limited benefit without smart munitions ... but what a cluster.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 9:00a, 3/9/22
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Agthatbuilds said:
this is why...this war needs a winner...and soon.

seige & stalemate is the worst outcome for civilians
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