It was stalled earlier today
***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]
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OSINTdefender live broadcast (space?) just reported that in the last 4 months the Finland population has moved from ~30% in support of joining NATO to over 50% in favor of joining.
Dorm 15 said:
Drones, somebody tell me about drones
That's the thing. Russia has not really unleashed their Air Force and some attribute it to a lack of precision guided munitions. The west could easily hand over armed drones to the Ukes with some remote "advisors" and do some real damage. A 440 lbs (total takeoff weight/fuel + munitions) Camcopter with two lightweight missiles could wreak havoc on the Russian motorized columns with repeated attacks. Loss of the aircraft would have little effect since it has an endurance of 6 hours. The Russians would expend enormous resources on air defense when this thing could shoot from just above a tree line or ridge and duck down quickly.
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Now that's what I am talking about. Fully integrated assaults like the US would do would probably account for this but I suspect the Russians don't.UTExan said:Dorm 15 said:
Drones, somebody tell me about drones
That's the thing. Russia has not really unleashed their Air Force and some attribute it to a lack of precision guided munitions. The west could easily hand over armed drones to the Ukes with some remote "advisors" and do some real damage. A 440 lbs (total takeoff weight/fuel + munitions) Camcopter with two lightweight missiles could wreak havoc on the Russian motorized columns with repeated attacks. Loss of the aircraft would have little effect since it has an endurance of 6 hours. The Russians would expend enormous resources on air defense when this thing could shoot from just above a tree line or ridge and duck down quickly.
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This is an excellent, well thought out post.G Martin 87 said:
I see a lot of understandable confusion over Putin's long-term strategy here, coupled with a lot of "he must be insane!" comments. You have to look at a map and think historically about where the threats to Russia, and specifically Moscow, have come from. Twice in the past 200 years, and both from Western Europe. In any Russian leader's mind, losing Ukraine to an expansionist EU/NATO that is absorbing most of their former Warsaw Pact satellite buffer states cannot help but be perceived as an existential threat. We must tread VERY carefully here, irrespective of the horrors we are seeing. Wrong moves can trigger atrocities far beyond Ukraine. Moreover, the sanctions being imposed by both Western countries AND businesses based in the West (e.g., Exxon, Apple, etc) are dangerous too. Isolate Russia too much, and again the perception of West vs Russia will be all too easy for Putin to claim.
However…….. The political and economic realities of 2022 do not match those of past Western European excursions into Russia. WESTERN EUROPE DOES NOT GIVE A SH#@ ABOUT INVADING RUSSIA. What we are seeing is Russian paranoia over past incursions, combined with Vlad's ego and desire to be more relevant like the former USSR.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
last but not least
U.S. expected to announce bar on Russian flights in U.S airspace as soon as Wednesday, sources tell @davidshepardson
— Idrees Ali (@idreesali114) March 2, 2022
Ukrainians apparently took out an 800 vehicle convoy in the southern part of the country?? Wondering if this is a mistranslation somehow but it seems pretty clear. EDIT to be clear it doesn't say they destroyed them all - probably just stopped their push for now
The original FB post is 4 hrs old and says
In the afternoon, we received information about the Russian military column, moving towards Kryvyi Rih from Bashtanka and consisting of about 800 wheeled vehicles. Our defenders reacted immediately, preventing the enemy from entering Dnipropetrovsk Region. The column was attacked from the air; the occupiers were hit hard
Column of 800 enemy vehicles stopped and punished severely near Bashtanka. Now, just waiting to take out the column stalled on the way to Kyiv. Sitting ducks. https://t.co/NSI6EwY0sr
— Euromaidan PR (@EuromaidanPR) March 2, 2022
The original FB post is 4 hrs old and says
In the afternoon, we received information about the Russian military column, moving towards Kryvyi Rih from Bashtanka and consisting of about 800 wheeled vehicles. Our defenders reacted immediately, preventing the enemy from entering Dnipropetrovsk Region. The column was attacked from the air; the occupiers were hit hard
United Airlines finally announced they were finding different routes for their India flights. They've been paying Putin up until yesterday for the rights to overfly Russia.JobSecurity said:
last but not leastU.S. expected to announce bar on Russian flights in U.S airspace as soon as Wednesday, sources tell @davidshepardson
— Idrees Ali (@idreesali114) March 2, 2022
Once we announce airspace is closed to Russian aircraft, the same thing happens to our aircraft over Russia.
Seems like the administration delayed this so the industry can get their ducks in a row.
Hard to know what to believe at this point. I hope it's not all propaganda
#Ukraine: This evening, it is claimed that Ukrainian TB-2 strike(s) caused catastrophic damage to a Russian Army column, composed of 80 vehicles, half of them 122mm Grad MRLS. This occurred in Romny, Sumy Oblast.
— 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons) March 2, 2022
We can observe the scope of the destruction from a consumer drone. pic.twitter.com/qgzFKmK3zS
⚡️Valerii Zaluzhny, Commander-in-Chief of Ukraine’s Armed Forces stated that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has slowed down.
— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) March 2, 2022
According to Zaluzhny, Russian forces have lost their tactical initiative and have been forced to mobilize reserves to continue their offensive.
Discouraging Russian troops appear to be walking freely in Kherson at this point.
Russian troops patrolling Kherson city tonight. pic.twitter.com/TiOJPJ22ER
— CaucasusWarReport (@Caucasuswar) March 2, 2022
If true, that is one of the best things that could've happened so far. Those GRAD MLRS systems are what are leveling buildings in civilian areas.
I keep getting the feeling that the Ukrainians are getting a lot of help that is not being made public.
Would be nice to see the citizens reply by saying that they will continue executing Russians as long as they are shooting at Ukrainians. Threats work both directions. But only one group stands to be brought before a tribunal for the war crime of executing civilians.aeroag14 said:
According to the OSINT stream right now, apparently in Kherson the russians have informed the local government that they will begin executing civilians if they continue to be shot at by the Ukrainians.
No source was provided, but it was passed along by a Ukrainian living in the US who has contacts in the area.
I would bet money there are several people in Ukraine with their ear to a sat phone talking to intel specialists in the Pentagon 24/7.Dorm 15 said:
I keep getting the feeling that the Ukrainians are getting a lot of help that is not being made public.
I would bet money that it goes far beyond that.javajaws said:I would bet money there are several people in Ukraine with their ear to a sat phone talking to intel specialists in the Pentagon 24/7.Dorm 15 said:
I keep getting the feeling that the Ukrainians are getting a lot of help that is not being made public.
Dorm 15 said:
I keep getting the feeling that the Ukrainians are getting a lot of help that is not being made public.
Positive of it. Not just us either. History has already proven this is multiple bush wars throughout the world. And that's just the ones we know of.
At the very least, we know we are freely sharing Intel and data which is immeasurable in it's help to the Ukes. A LOT of these ambushes are occurring at the right time at the right place.......uncanny isn't it???
No doubt. And the best thing for America to do is to not advertise ANY of it. Yeah, the Republicans might publicly take shots at Biden a bit and blame him for not taking action...but it's the right thing to do politics be dammed.Dorm 15 said:I would bet money that it goes far beyond that.javajaws said:I would bet money there are several people in Ukraine with their ear to a sat phone talking to intel specialists in the Pentagon 24/7.Dorm 15 said:
I keep getting the feeling that the Ukrainians are getting a lot of help that is not being made public.
I do not see how Putin survives the economic collapse that is coming. He cannot win. Even if he achieves his objectives in Ukraine, he is persona non grata around the world. He has single handedly crushed Russia's ability to conduct commerce around the world, and this isn't going to change just because he takes some territory back.SidsBurnerAccount said:S&P has cut Russia’s long-term foreign currency credit rating to junk (BB+), with Moody’s issuing a junk warning. #credit #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/Is7Z2BxeWd
— Michael A. Gayed, CFA (@leadlagreport) March 1, 2022
The economic pressure on Russia is extreme. They're being isolated in a way I don't recall seeing a major economy undergo before. This level of pressure will hopefully force the oligarchs and military into removing Putin.
At some point soon, his house of cards is going to collapse. It has to. He won't have the money to pay his military personnel or rebuild his arsenal, much less shepherd a strong economy and keep food on the shelves. It is going to hit every sector of the population, rich and poor.
IMO, Putin is whistling past the graveyard. It is a terrible thing that so many Ukranians will beat him to it.
It is heart wrenching to see a proud people destroyed like this. Even if the Ukes were our enemy, I would still admire their courage. I believe that NATO should step in and stop this. I would hope that it did not result in a wider conflict or nuclear conflict, but I think it is time to call Putin's bluff. We think with all of our comforts and technology that something like this is just not possible, but we are seeing it play out right in front of us.
We are not in that much different of a place then we were in 1914 or 1939.
We are not in that much different of a place then we were in 1914 or 1939.
Today, unfortunately, many Americans have good reason to fear that they will be victimized if they are unable to protect themselves. And today, no less than in 1791, the Second Amendment guarantees their right to do so. - Justice Samuel Alito 2022
⚡️Russian troops in Crimea refuse to take part in Ukraine invasion.
— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) March 2, 2022
The Center for Defense Strategies, citing their sources in the marine personnel in Crimea, says members of Russia’s 810th Detached Marine Brigade are in a “demoralized state."
I don't see any Russian soldiers in that video. My eyesight is bad but still?
⚡️Valerii Zaluzhny, Commander-in-Chief of Ukraine’s Armed Forces stated that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has slowed down.
— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) March 2, 2022
According to Zaluzhny, Russian forces have lost their tactical initiative and have been forced to mobilize reserves to continue their offensive.
⚡️Estonia to provide Ukraine with Javelin anti-tank missiles and ammunition.
— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) March 2, 2022
Latvia will also send 30 trucks of ammunition, supplies, and fuel to Ukraine, according to the head of the Lviv Regional State Administration Maksym Kozytskyi.
Dorm 15 said:I would bet money that it goes far beyond that.javajaws said:I would bet money there are several people in Ukraine with their ear to a sat phone talking to intel specialists in the Pentagon 24/7.Dorm 15 said:
I keep getting the feeling that the Ukrainians are getting a lot of help that is not being made public.
Ukes have some tactical ballistic missiles, would make perfect sense for us to be providing targeting info for them.
And if we're wrong about it being a "bluff"? What's your Plan B?Quote:
I would hope that it did not result in a wider conflict or nuclear conflict, but I think it is time to call Putin's bluff.
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Update on the scale of the invasion:
That's 80% of an estimated 150k - 190k troops that were amassed at the border.
⚡️About 80% of the troops that Russia massed along Ukraine’s borders have crossed into Ukraine since the invasion began Thursday, Ukrinform reported, citing an unnamed high-ranking official in the Pentagon.
— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) March 2, 2022
That's 80% of an estimated 150k - 190k troops that were amassed at the border.
Badass Ukrainian soldier just captured 13 Russian war criminals and make them say "Slava Ukraini" like they were his little bitch...🤣#Mykolaiv #Bashtanka #Ukrainian #Ukraine #UkraineRussiaWar #Russiapic.twitter.com/fLd06n2DCD
— TGK (@Ghost_of_Kiev) March 1, 2022
The "Russian World" in action. The square in Kharkiv before and after Russian strike. Time to ban all "Russian World" offices (aka Rossotrudnitchestvo) worldwide, take their property and give it to Ukraine. In Berlin the office of Russian influence agency is @RussischesHaus pic.twitter.com/V0TjqtKNpa
— Sergej Sumlenny (@sumlenny) March 2, 2022
Astonishing difference before and after
Every city Russia takes mean that many more soldiers they have to leave behind to hold those places. Given their slower rate of progress they will need to bring many more personnel and equipment in to keep up the pace or risk slowing down even more or stalling altogether.
agent-maroon said:And if we're wrong about it being a "bluff"? What's your Plan B?Quote:
I would hope that it did not result in a wider conflict or nuclear conflict, but I think it is time to call Putin's bluff.
No kidding. That's a mighty large cost to being wrong, potentially "life on earth forever changed" type of stuff.
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