***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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JobSecurity said:


I have a feeling the delegates voting against were some or all from Hungary. Orban loves Putin, they don't really like America, they've refused American troops and haven't allowed lethal aid to pass through, and they've been on the wrong side of every war since they were part of Austria.
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AgBQ-00 said:

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Too dumb to be true, right? Lukashenko laid out the end-state for all to see?

4 quadrant Ukraine. Moldovo on-deck with the red arrow straight from Kherson/Odesa. No way, right?

Why is there a 1st Cav emblem on that map? They planning on possible US forces they will face?

That's a mini map of Europe showing NATO
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TRM said:

Exxon joins BP and Shell. Don't think it's quite as strong though - don't know about Exxon's stake/joint ventures over there.


My sister is an Exxon expat in Russia. They are being evacuated very quickly. Can't take any pets with them either.
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I had no idea what Transnistria was so had to google that. Here's a short article from 2020 that gives some basic (but pertinent) info: https://www.outofyourcomfortzone.net/how-to-visit-transnistria/
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PJYoung said:



Three things a war needs: beans (food and fuel), bullets (ammo for arms), and bodies. The Russians clearly don't get this.

Not that I am complaining about their logistical woes aT all. **** 'em.
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jabberwalkie09 said:

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Here's a thread on r/Romania.

Hopefully this Google Translate link works: https://www-reddit-com.translate.goog/r/Romania/comments/t48lns/sukhoiul_su27_al_uaf_a_decolat_mai_devreme_din/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

To the point: UAF SU-24 was forcibly escorted by NATO fighters on the 24th after it entered Romanian airspace. Looks like it had no where to land in Ukraine? Just took off back to Ukraine with no ammunitions on board to comply with NATO rules. I guess the wing wiggle is a thanks.

That's an Su-27.


Damn, perfectly good piece of equipment that is probably now lost. Wish they could've loaded him down with munitions and sent him home with a full tank of jet fuel.

I was just on the phone with my Dad and was talking about a BBC video I saw on YouTube last night about a childrens hospital in Kyiv. Showed one kid who'd been severely injured and lots of cancer and other patients that need medicine that has run out. Some of them will most likely pass away and instead of getting to enjoy their last days with their families with any already terrible disease, they now have to suffer through a war and no medicine. I for one am ready to sacrifice my families safety for NATO to step in. This can't be allowed to happen. Every Russian that's stepped across that border, 19 year old kid or not needs to get obliterated and driven back across the border.
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Ag In Ok said:

Isn't that a repeat of their Georgian invasion where i recall seeing tank commanders out of the hatch and on their cell talking with their leadership?

Also, if they are iPhones is there a way we can locate Russian purchase iPhones in Ukraine and shut them down? Isn't this was the nsa is for?

Do not interrupt your enemies when they are making a mistake.
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Do those vehicles in that miles long line have better or worse insulation than your standard car or truck? I could see either being true but it can't be comfortable.
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jabberwalkie09 said:

PJYoung said:


Three things a war needs: beans (food and fuel), bullets (ammo for arms), and bodies. The Russians clearly don't get this.

Not that I am complaining about their logistical woes aT all. **** 'em.
Forecast is 4 days of snow (some rain) in Kyiv. Gonna be cold!
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TH36 said:

jabberwalkie09 said:

RangerRick9211 said:

Here's a thread on r/Romania.

Hopefully this Google Translate link works: https://www-reddit-com.translate.goog/r/Romania/comments/t48lns/sukhoiul_su27_al_uaf_a_decolat_mai_devreme_din/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

To the point: UAF SU-24 was forcibly escorted by NATO fighters on the 24th after it entered Romanian airspace. Looks like it had no where to land in Ukraine? Just took off back to Ukraine with no ammunitions on board to comply with NATO rules. I guess the wing wiggle is a thanks.

That's an Su-27.


Damn, perfectly good piece of equipment that is probably now lost. Wish they could've loaded him down with munitions and sent him home with a full tank of jet fuel.

I was just on the phone with my Dad and was talking about a BBC video I saw on YouTube last night about a childrens hospital in Kyiv. Showed one kid who'd been severely injured and lots of cancer and other patients that need medicine that has run out. Some of them will most likely pass away and instead of getting to enjoy their last days with their families with any already terrible disease, they now have to suffer through a war and no medicine. I for one am ready to sacrifice my families safety for NATO to step in. This can't be allowed to happen. Every Russian that's stepped across that border, 19 year old kid or not needs to get obliterated and driven back across the border.
The NATO of the 80s and 90s would be viewing this as a unique opportunity. If they suck so much as an invading force, they will also suck at being an occupation force.
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javajaws said:

I had no idea what Transnistria was so had to google that. Here's a short article from 2020 that gives some basic (but pertinent) info: https://www.outofyourcomfortzone.net/how-to-visit-transnistria/
A recent episode of FBI International was based in Transnistria and I thought it was just a made-up country for TV.
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jabberwalkie09 said:

PJYoung said:



Three things a war needs: beans (food and fuel), bullets (ammo for arms), and bodies. The Russians clearly don't get this.

Not that I am complaining about their logistical woes aT all. **** 'em.
They have NEVER gotten those simple ideas right. The only way they were able to make the impact they had against Germany in WW2 was they were kept supplied with food etc so they could take advantage of their masses of people to push the war to Germany. WW1 saw them basically do what they are doing now. But now they don't have the waves of people to support it.
Do nations have basically "institutional memory" that predestines how they approach things?
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How long until we see VBIEDs show up in that long line of vehicles?
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Turnabout is a b1tcH
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TRM said:


Did it have Thermoberic munitions on it still? TOS can launch both Conventional and Thermoberic muntions.
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RangerRick9211 said:

jabberwalkie09 said:

PJYoung said:


Three things a war needs: beans (food and fuel), bullets (ammo for arms), and bodies. The Russians clearly don't get this.

Not that I am complaining about their logistical woes aT all. **** 'em.
Forecast is 4 days of snow (some rain) in Kyiv. Gonna be cold!

When these guys start starving and freezing, I don't expect that they're going to be near as motivated. I mentioned awhile back when the initial units started running out of gas that we could see units surrender, I'm still of that opinion.

On the flip side of this, the Ukrainians are also going to start running into shortages as well if they haven't already.
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aeroag14 said:

TRM said:


Did it have Thermoberic munitions on it still? TOS can launch both Conventional and Thermoberic muntions.


If not maybe someone could supply some
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Can confirm.
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Holee fook - that will stop a convoy or suppress the hell outta a siege with targeting help. They need more than NLWS, and this fills that gap - just have to unstuck it, protect, position, and rain down hell.

The morale of the invaders will be impacted knowing some of their most dangerous weapons are being taken and used against them.
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TRM said:




Turn it back on them. Blow them all to Hell.
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Can those thermobaric weapons be turned on the Russians? I don't really understand how they work - I thought their purpose was to clear our buildings/caves.
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jabberwalkie09 said:

RangerRick9211 said:

jabberwalkie09 said:

PJYoung said:


Three things a war needs: beans (food and fuel), bullets (ammo for arms), and bodies. The Russians clearly don't get this.

Not that I am complaining about their logistical woes aT all. **** 'em.
Forecast is 4 days of snow (some rain) in Kyiv. Gonna be cold!

When these guys start starving and freezing, I don't expect that they're going to be near as motivated. I mentioned awhile back when the initial units started running out of gas that we could see units surrender, I'm still of that opinion.

On the flip side of this, the Ukrainians are also going to start running into shortages as well if they haven't already.
Local population will feed the Ukrainians but not the Russians. Everyone has wiped out what was in the supermarkets and stocked it in their pantries, which probably wasn't all that much, they tend to have small supermarkets there. Of course Russians will maraud but it won't be as easy.
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TxAgIB said:

Can those thermobaric weapons be turned on the Russians? I don't really understand how they work - I thought their purpose was to clear our buildings/caves.
TOS-1A can do some serious damage from afar. There's been reports of up to 12KM. This is a huge lever if they can get it out and have ammunition. No doubt this one machine can severely impact / slow down a column is no time at all.
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Splashed another Russian helo
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Charpie said:





That's 3 days of US consumption.

It's about 10 days of Russian exports.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Turn it back on them. Blow them all to Hell.
the logical conclusion of how it was captured is that its either broke down or stuck in the mud.

If it is stuck in mud (doubtful because no other red vehicles towed it out unless out of ordinance) and operational than it could still be in range of its counterparts who should be targeted like others have said.
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GAC06 said:



Splashed another Russian helo

Panic flaring. Hopefully they have more success.
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shiftyandquick said:


Those "important updates" lead me to believe that the pentagon has just been reading twitter for the last 24 hours...
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