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Do something completely unexpected with a big upside - take Donetsk and proceed to hammer the remaining primary roads from Russia to Ukraine.
Then turn south to Mariupol.

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Donetsk would be tough right now. It has been in separatist hands for 8 years and I'm not sure how friendly the populace would be. The Ukraine loyalists have had plenty of time to depart in that time.

💬 FM Sergey #Lavrov: The descendants of our liberator soldiers who fought heroically during #WWII are playing a crucial role today in the fight against neo-Nazism, #Russophobia and other manifestations of misanthropic ideology.

🔗 https://t.co/3CNy8hlH3W#LestWeForget pic.twitter.com/mLYlX7tOyv

— MFA Russia 🇷🇺 (@mfa_russia) November 23, 2022

"Putin wants to terrorize people, making them freeze without electricity," and thus put pressure on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

"My impression is that people will only become angrier, more determined. We will not die and run away, as Putin wants"

— MAKS 22🇺🇦 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) November 23, 2022

Out of all mobiks we've seen so far, these guys from Serpuhkov were definitely born to lose:

a) no armour given
b) abandoned by commanders
c) shelled by own Russian forced
d) not given any food
e) after retreating, placed in a building with no windows.

The list goes on... pic.twitter.com/XNUt57BJ8r

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) November 23, 2022

No thanksgiving or Christmas for these people, I could hear the bombs and only wish they didn’t do what I knew they would. Not trying to ruin holidays for you but this is Ukraine. Please don’t forget what these good people are going through as I see it every day https://t.co/AGR2sUQqYH

— James Vasquez (@jmvasquez1974) November 23, 2022

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Rossticus said:

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Russian army. A Chechen in red sneakers intelligibly explains to a mobilized Russian that he must return to the trench and die pic.twitter.com/cRGOPDKo1e

— Paul Jawin (@PaulJawin) November 23, 2022

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as a human being I have pity for the Russian who was being beaten to get back into the trench.

notice the Ukes laughing at them-

there will be societal problems in Ukraine for decades after this is all over as many have now lost their humanity.

it will be worse in the rump Russian state though-

as wounded and traumatized males stream back into the cities and towns, where not only will there be less population growth, marriages and business development but increased alcoholism, suicide, and wife beatings.

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As a combat veteran, the son of a combat veteran and the grandson of two combat veterans I'm real interested in hearing why you think this would occur.

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I'm not who you're asking, but this war seems to be showing some similarities to the world wars in terms of carnage, adjusted to a bit more modernized warfare. There were a lot of incredibly traumatized soldiers coming back after the war who typically got little to no treatment. Given Russia's treatment of their soldiers and civilians, I doubt they will care to help any of these poor men that are being thrown to die.

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Russian FSB killed 3 person in Voronezh region of Russia, accusing them in being Ukrainian saboteurs plotting attacks at energy infrastructure

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https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/23-november-russian-fsb-killed-3-person-in-voronezh-region

Today's SITREP.

Rossticus said:

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Out of all mobiks we've seen so far, these guys from Serpuhkov were definitely born to lose:

a) no armour given
b) abandoned by commanders
c) shelled by own Russian forced
d) not given any food
e) after retreating, placed in a building with no windows.

The list goes on... pic.twitter.com/XNUt57BJ8r

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) November 23, 2022

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Do the Russians think the actual objective is to never have two soldiers wearing the same uniforms or possessing the same kit or carrying their weapons the same way?

if so they are a really great army.

most of these guys look like a rabble

and are mutinying just like in 1917. it's frankly amazing that the Ukes have not gained MORE territory when they are fighting units that are basically a mob of untrained cannon fodder.

how is the FSB and Putin letting all these videos see the light of day?!?!

Think of all the progress the Rus could make if the guards of the frontline troops could actually be deployed to fight.

Jetpilot86 said:

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Think of all the progress the Rus could make if the guards of the frontline troops could actually be deployed to fight.

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But then who would stop THEM from running away? They're Kadyrovites so they only fight well against air anyway.

Rossticus said:

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Jetpilot86 said:

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Think of all the progress the Rus could make if the guards of the frontline troops could actually be deployed to fight.

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But then who would stop THEM from running away? They're Kadyrovites so they only fight well against air anyway.

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Who stops them now?

On the Kupyansk/Svatove front:

On the map pic.twitter.com/7qVKflVysY

— NOËL 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 (@NOELreports) November 24, 2022

Really fascinating thread by Mark Hertling:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1595630801026428928.html

Good military units will conduct “after action reviews” (AARs) many time during the conduct of training & operations.

AARs assess what’s happened & determine required adaptations.

Many of my followers are asking for a new Ukraine thread, but perhaps an AAR is better. 1/ pic.twitter.com/0nONQLPRwp

— MarkHertling (@MarkHertling) November 24, 2022

#Ukraine: A Ukrainian Krab 155mm self-propelled howitzer was destroyed by the Russian army presumably in the East. pic.twitter.com/8fd1jkhr8i

— 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons) November 24, 2022

Jetpilot86 said:

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Jetpilot86 said:

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Think of all the progress the Rus could make if the guards of the frontline troops could actually be deployed to fight.

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But then who would stop THEM from running away? They're Kadyrovites so they only fight well against air anyway.

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Who stops them now?

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The fact that their opponents are scared conscripts with 2 weeks of training and rusty rifles.

chickencoupe16 said:

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Jetpilot86 said:

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Rossticus said:

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Jetpilot86 said:

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Think of all the progress the Rus could make if the guards of the frontline troops could actually be deployed to fight.

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But then who would stop THEM from running away? They're Kadyrovites so they only fight well against air anyway.

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Who stops them now?

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The fact that their opponents are scared conscripts with 2 weeks of training and rusty rifles.

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I meant the Kadyrovites.

Jetpilot86 said:

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chickencoupe16 said:

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Jetpilot86 said:

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Rossticus said:

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Jetpilot86 said:

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Think of all the progress the Rus could make if the guards of the frontline troops could actually be deployed to fight.

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But then who would stop THEM from running away? They're Kadyrovites so they only fight well against air anyway.

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Who stops them now?

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The fact that their opponents are scared conscripts with 2 weeks of training and rusty rifles.

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I meant the Kadyrovites.

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Me too

Yeesh. Russians are just getting annihilated in Bakhmut. Warning: dead bodies (but no gore that I could tell).

Consolidated tactical group Adam in the defense of Bakhmut. Destroyed Russian tank. Fields dotted with dead Russian soldiers pic.twitter.com/TMQFEPa5rN

— Paul Jawin (@PaulJawin) November 24, 2022

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Yeesh. Russians are just getting annihilated in Bakhmut. Warning: dead bodies (but no gore that I could tell).

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damn...one of those landed right on some guy's helmet

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Ukraine is a country of many flaws, most of them ingrained during decades of tutelage under its former Soviet Union masters. But unlike Russia, which preserved the mire of Soviet corruption, authoritarianism and dictatorship, Ukrainians have repeatedly fought for their independence and the right to improve their society and governance, despite often moving at a too-slow pace.

So, as I celebrate during this Thanksgiving week all that America has given me, I also salute Ukraine's courage in fighting for the same freedoms and prosperity I enjoy. I hope they prevail so they can continue to work to make their country better than what they inherited from the communists. After all, Russia's incessant aggression and the repressive, undemocratic world order it would like to impose are everyone's problem.

"Thanksgiving is an American holiday; arguably, the American holiday. But there is no reason that the objects of our gratitude have to be American. This year, I am grateful, above all, to the brave people of Ukraine for all their sacrifices and successes in the battle for freedom. They are fighting not just for the right to determine their own future. They are fighting for the universal principles embodied in our own Declaration of Independence."

GIVE THANKS

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AMEN and Happy Thanksgiving to you, Ukraine, and all those in support of on this thread. So odd almost guilty like to eat such fine food in the comfort of our homes this day while they hunker down in bomb shelters wo power and fighting for their lives. prayers they get to celebrate their own Thanksgiving soon without worry of further threat.

Defmon3's update thread is a good read for the current situation:

Full thread for those without Twitter: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1595836750672322560.html

Update🧵November 24th

This thread is presented by Santarov.
(video message included further down)

Visit interactive map for more details and explanations:https://t.co/qln6YDR0nv pic.twitter.com/PjuCTuAl9F

— Def Mon (@DefMon3) November 24, 2022

⚡️Forbes estimates Russia has spent $82 billion on war with Ukraine since Feb. 24.

During nine months of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia has spent $82 billion on war, which is a quarter of its annual budget, according to Forbes.

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) November 25, 2022

PJYoung said:

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⚡️Forbes estimates Russia has spent $82 billion on war with Ukraine since Feb. 24.

During nine months of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia has spent $82 billion on war, which is a quarter of its annual budget, according to Forbes.

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) November 25, 2022

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and how many billions have they lost in material. Quite a few billion it seems

“An imperative exists for urgent action to expand the West’s defence industrial base. Strategic & courageous decisions are needed now. We may almost be out of time to make them.” My latest on #Ukraine & industrial production, at ⁦⁦@EngelsbergIdeas⁩ https://t.co/ZvAeS1wU5Q

— Mick Ryan, AM (@WarintheFuture) November 24, 2022

I would add Japan and Czechia to the list but in their case I have a reason to believe their national governments are concerned about the role their industry is playing in arming Putin and are looking for ways to stop or minimise that. Still USG could help a lot in their case too

— Kamil Galeev (@kamilkazani) November 24, 2022

In some cases also on verifiable technological transfer. I don’t want to point fingers but it is Germany

— Kamil Galeev (@kamilkazani) November 24, 2022

WTF, NATO and outer countries with defense treaties with the US are arming Russia?

Threaten to tear those treaties up if there isn't verifiable action. Maximum pressure include ALL trade agreements with the US. Not to exclude the removal of all US equipment and personnel from said countries.

Ukraine’s 4 operational nuclear power plants all have access to the 🇺🇦nat'l grid again following a complete loss of off-site power this week. Separately, IAEA completed a week-long nuclear safety & security expert mission to Chornobyl & its Exclusion Zone. https://t.co/9PyMocmUkH pic.twitter.com/NxpVPjp29D

— IAEA - International Atomic Energy Agency ⚛️ (@iaeaorg) November 25, 2022

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Explosions were reported in Kharkiv and Chuhuiv after missile launches from Belgorod region

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....Interesting.

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NATO Secretary General: The alliance does not have instructors on the ground in Ukraine

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....Interesting.

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NATO Secretary General: The alliance does not have instructors on the ground in Ukraine

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The "alliance" does not have instructors but you can be damn sure the US, UK, France and others have people there.

"retired"