***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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LMCane said:

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That's nice.

Even if true, it's not like they a
sponsored and armed a dictator to invade from their territory or use it to launch missiles at Ukraine or anything.
this is likely to justify a Belarus invasion of Ukraine from the North


Does Poland get involved in Belarus if Belarus invades Ukraine? Poland and Belarus have a very recent strained relationship, and with Russia showing weakness in Ukraine, Belarus getting involved might be just the thing Poland uses to strike at Belarus. Poland seems to be chomping at the bit.
In a pre-nuclear world absolutely

but now, Putin would simply threaten to nuke Wroclaw if Poland attacks their ally Belarus.


There are American troops in Poland. Russia would be shooting themselves in the face.
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That's wild. I think they mean this one, south of Kupyansk. It's all shallow? What about the effects downstream? What does that do to the Donets river, and why would they do it when the Donets isn't the frontline at the moment?

Also, it's worth noting Ukraine blew the same floodgates several months ago in order to make a Russian crossing over the Donets harder.

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It's just insane how much drones have changed the battlefield.
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Wonder how long this game of musical chairs can go on until it gets back to Putin?
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In Northern Ukraine:

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Over 72 shells hit Vorozhba territorial community today
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/6-november-over-72-shells-hit-vorozhba-territorial-community

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Infighting among the Russians. This one's a doozy. From Grey_Zone (Wagner):

https://t.me/grey_zone/15698

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A full letter from the fighters of the 155th Marine Brigade of the Russian Pacific Fleet addressed to the Governor of Primorsky Krai:

"Dear Oleg Nikolaevich. Marines of the 155th Marine Brigade are addressing you.
Once again, we were thrown into an incomprehensible offensive by General Muradov and his fellow countryman Akhmedov, in order for Muradov to earn bonuses over Gerasimov and Akhmedov Muradov promised a hero of Russia. As a result, we and the marines of Kamchatka are advancing on Pavlovka. As a result of the "carefully" planned offensive by the "great commanders", we lost about 300 people killed, wounded and missing in 4 days. 50 percent technology. This is just our team. The command of the district, together with Akhmedov, hide this and take the official figures of losses for fear of responsibility. How were they going to capture the settlement by slipping through the landings in which the enemy remained now destroying ours on the evacuation routes of the wounded and the supply of ammunition. In addition, Pavlovka is lower than Ugledar, from which they beat us.
Oleg Nikolaevich, Primorye people! How long will such mediocrity as Muradov and Akhmedov plan military operations for the sake of their reports and receive awards at the cost of the lives of so many people. They don't care about anything just to show themselves. They call people meat.
We ask you to contact the Supreme Commander to send a commission not from the Ministry of Defense where Muradoaa is protected by Gerasimov, but an independent one. Let them be asked the purpose of such actions, their provision, and the results without embellishment.
How much can you endure!"

ps: when you can already understand that such messages are not the machinations of hahlov, but the truth, in turn I will add that for the most part it is so everywhere, there are good commanders, but they are a minority, because they were gobbled up by the system for the sake of such pidaras, as for Muradov (like Lapin), they praised, defended, etc., when he behaved like a ******* in Karabakh, when the Azerbaijani side fired on the Armenians and our peacekeeping contingent as much as they wanted
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The dynamics of this war are crazy. On one hand you have a war of the future being fought with drones and twitter. On the other hand you have static trench lines and massed artillery reminiscent of 1917.
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Good thread on what has been done and what could wind up the future of the Kherson front.

FULL THREAD: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1589304808275484672.html



tl;dr: Ukraine does not want to do a frontal assault on Kherson city and the other key areas such as Nova Kakhovka, instead choosing to attrit the Russians there until maintaining control of the city is not worth it. In the meantime, they'll make small attacks where the opportunity arises. Whoever ends up with control of the city will face significant difficulties trying to administer it with constant attacks. Russia would likely use relentless artillery on the city from the other side of the river.
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Kiev may have to be evacuated if its electrical grid fails under Russian attacks. 3M PEOPLE
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Never going to happen.
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AgLA06 said:

Never going to happen.
Never say never. MAYOR
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He can say whatever. They didn't leave when Russian tank columns were bearing down and paratroopers were landing at the airport.
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If the Ukrainians had the ships and forces, I would absolutely do an Inchon type landing behind the city on the east side and cut it off.

Spare it destruction and cut off all the Russians to the west. I don't think the Ukrainians could pull it off though.
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MouthBQ98 said:

If the Ukrainians had the ships and forces, I would absolutely do an Inchon type landing behind the city on the east side and cut it off.

Spare it destruction and cut off all the Russians to the west. I don't think the Ukrainians could pull it off though.


That and a end around Kherson from the north.

One can dream.
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Take Kherson and cut the fresh water supply to Crimea. Russians are destroying the electrical grid throughout the country, see how Russian Crimea likes drinking vodka 24/7
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