Just what all is this beast capable of jamming?aggiehawg said:You can tell me a lot, but if you leave such high valuable equipment behind without a scratch you just left it behind in straight panic. Morale totally gone.
— NOËL (@Noel_dotsol) September 13, 2022
Photo: R-934BMV UHF jammer from the Borisoglebsk-2 electronic warfare system captured by Ukrainian forces. pic.twitter.com/HVtI4u3qFS
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AgLA06 said:SouthTex99 said:
I cannot imagine how Americans would react to having 10,000 American troops surrender as POWs in one battle. Cannot fathom it. Immediate change in leadership starting with POTUS.
Ehhhh....might want to tap the brakes on that one. Our military is the best in the world, but we've had some embarrassing moments of our own the last 100 years. Every country does. Most turn it into stories of heroes instead of failure.
Kasserine Pass
Task Force Smith
Desert One (Iran Hostage Situation)
Chosin Resevoir
Tet Offensive
I would agree with Chosin Resevoir. For sure. And the rest except the Iran hostage mission. It was a suicide mission and those guys still went. Think you JC.
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B-1 83 said:Just what all is this beast capable of jamming?aggiehawg said:You can tell me a lot, but if you leave such high valuable equipment behind without a scratch you just left it behind in straight panic. Morale totally gone.
— NOËL (@Noel_dotsol) September 13, 2022
Photo: R-934BMV UHF jammer from the Borisoglebsk-2 electronic warfare system captured by Ukrainian forces. pic.twitter.com/HVtI4u3qFS
Missiles, radars, GPS, nothing? I think the point is we now get to figure that out.
FCBlitz said:AgLA06 said:SouthTex99 said:
I cannot imagine how Americans would react to having 10,000 American troops surrender as POWs in one battle. Cannot fathom it. Immediate change in leadership starting with POTUS.
Ehhhh....might want to tap the brakes on that one. Our military is the best in the world, but we've had some embarrassing moments of our own the last 100 years. Every country does. Most turn it into stories of heroes instead of failure.
Kasserine Pass
Task Force Smith
Desert One (Iran Hostage Situation)
Chosin Resevoir
Tet Offensive
I would agree with Chosin Resevoir. For sure. And the rest except the Iran hostage mission. It was a suicide mission and those guys still went. Think you JC.
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I almost didn't include it except it made our SpecOp community look as incompetent as the Russian paratroopers at Kiev airport. And thankfully big changes came from it.
But we digress.
And Adidas track suits.fullback44 said:
If Ukraine wanted to take this one step farther and speed things up.. they would send a bunch a f supply trucks loaded with vodka to the Russians .. instead of the Russians running off they would find them passed out in all the houses they occupied.. give them each a couple bottles of vodka and a white surrender flag
Maroon Adidas track suits....or GTFO.GeorgiAg said:And Adidas track suits.fullback44 said:
If Ukraine wanted to take this one step farther and speed things up.. they would send a bunch a f supply trucks loaded with vodka to the Russians .. instead of the Russians running off they would find them passed out in all the houses they occupied.. give them each a couple bottles of vodka and a white surrender flag
Fires can be seen burning in and around the Russian-Occupied City of Makiivka just East of Donetsk City tonight as Ukrainian Forces continue to launch Artillery and Air Attacks on Russian Positions in the Region, these are most likely meant to soften up Defensive Positions. pic.twitter.com/GkEcjnEXSr
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 13, 2022
#UkraineWar: Overview of Russian equipment losses added on 13/09/2022
— Jakub Janovsky (@Rebel44CZ) September 13, 2022
Another massive 2-page list!
Full list: https://t.co/wxuwtueKnD pic.twitter.com/4AhK3kSyI8
Another 83 vehicles visually confirmed by Oryx.
definitely wrongjavajaws said:But Russia still holds significant Ukraine land. I think this current offensive has taken back, what, less than 10% of what they have lost so far (not including Crimea)? Anybody have a better estimate?Waffledynamics said:Bag said:
so, does anyone have a succinct current status of the overall war? its hard to understand who is winning at this point/
Russia's getting their asses handed to them at the moment. Ukraine just took back a lot of land in the Northeast and is threatening the South.
you can see on Denys Davidov maps on his posted youtubes in this thread, all the green areas are areas recaptured from the Russkies.
they have certainly recaptured just as much territory as they have lost, meaning at least 100% of the size of what the Russians still have they already have lost back to the Ukrainians
even the past 2 weeks is well over 10%, it includes nearly the entire territory of Kharkiv Oblast down to Lyman!
During half a year of Russian occupation, almost 80% of the infrastructure in the city of Izium, Kharkiv Oblast, was destroyed, said Maksym Strelnyk, department head and deputy of the Izium City Council. According to preliminary estimates, about a thousand people died there.
— Hromadske Int. (@Hromadske) September 13, 2022
javajaws said:I was responding to a post about how Ukraine was doing and was trying to give a general estimate of the current Ukraine offensive and how it relates to land still occupied by Russia. Basically THIS map:AgLA06 said:
Don't see your point. In a week they undid what took the supposed second greatest military 3 months to take in a meat grinder.
So while the offensive is great for Ukraine (purple areas)...let's not forget all that area in red:
You are still wrong- you are using a map not showing the huge amount of territory retaken by the Ukrainians around Kyiv and to the east of the dnieper
it is also showing white in the central kharkiv oblast - where Uke forces just liberated all that territory to the west of the Donbass up to the Oksil river and that is not being shown either. and half that red zone was taken 8 years ago.
I think it can both be true that Ukraine has retaken huge swaths of its territory but that Russia still holds a huge swath and this war may not yet be over any time.
I mean more than that surrendered in the Philippines in WWII and we did just fine. Surrenders of that size are significant but they aren't war ending on their own.
Interesting. At 4:14, he says that Russia is afraid that Ukraine will move their forces into Mariupol from the North, and also he mentions that Ukraine is gathering forces near Zaporizhzhia, possibly for a Melitopol attack. The latter is especially notable given reports that Russians are leaving Melitopol.AGS-R-TUFF said:
Okay, but you do realize that the Kherson troops ARE SURROUNDED by Ukrainians and a major river that the Russians can't cross anymore?!TXAggie2011 said:
The Russians do still have the "land bridge to Crimea" thing to hang their hat on and push out to their adoring public. They can dig in hard on that if they want to.
Their forces in the south have seemed much more together and competent throughout this whole ordeal. They have actual defense in depth in Kherson. Not saying Ukraine can't unhinge them there, too, but the Russians have handled themselves better down that way
adding troops to a surrounded cauldron pocket is now "competent" and handling things better?!
has anyone tried to explain why the Russkies were beaten in the western Donbass, but then retreat from well entrenched defensive positions 100 miles north which ARE ON THE RUSSIAN BORDER and can be easily re-supplied from Belgorod?!?!Waffledynamics said:Interesting. At 4:14, he says that Russia is afraid that Ukraine will move their forces into Mariupol from the North, and also he mentions that Ukraine is gathering forces near Zaporizhzhia, possibly for a Melitopol attack. The latter is especially notable given reports that Russians are leaving Melitopol.AGS-R-TUFF said:
the Russians had those defensive positions north of Kharkiv for 3 months now!
AgLA06 said:FCBlitz said:AgLA06 said:SouthTex99 said:
I cannot imagine how Americans would react to having 10,000 American troops surrender as POWs in one battle. Cannot fathom it. Immediate change in leadership starting with POTUS.
Ehhhh....might want to tap the brakes on that one. Our military is the best in the world, but we've had some embarrassing moments of our own the last 100 years. Every country does. Most turn it into stories of heroes instead of failure.
Kasserine Pass
Task Force Smith
Desert One (Iran Hostage Situation)
Chosin Resevoir
Tet Offensive
I would agree with Chosin Resevoir. For sure. And the rest except the Iran hostage mission. It was a suicide mission and those guys still went. Think you JC.
B
I almost didn't include it except it made our SpecOp community look as incompetent as the Russian paratroopers at Kiev airport. And thankfully big changes came from it.
But we digress.
Would not include Tet. It was a surprise attack and the commies got their asses handed to them. The only embarrassment there is how the media framed it.
What is left at Mariupol? Most civilians have been killed. Steel plant bombed into oblivion.Quote:
Interesting. At 4:14, he says that Russia is afraid that Ukraine will move their forces into Mariupol from the North, and also he mentions that Ukraine is gathering forces near Zaporizhzhia, possibly for a Melitopol attack. The latter is especially notable given reports that Russians are leaving Melitopol.
Nobody knows, and nobody will know until later when Russians involved in the operation start talking and we can sift through truth and propaganda.
Years later? Ten? Twenty? Fifty?rgag12 said:
Nobody knows, and nobody will know until later when Russians involved in the operation start talking and we can sift through truth and propaganda.
Just like any war, after the smoke clears there will be a multitude of articles and memoirs written by Russians and Ukrainians who fought. I don't imagine it will take long to get some out there, but a lot of credible accounts won't come until the conflict is winding down and finished.aggiehawg said:Years later? Ten? Twenty? Fifty?rgag12 said:
Nobody knows, and nobody will know until later when Russians involved in the operation start talking and we can sift through truth and propaganda.
No idea when the war ends, but I don't think it will be 5+ years
Probably correct.Quote:
Just like any war, after the smoke clears there will be a multitude of articles and memoirs written by Russians and Ukrainians who fought. I don't imagine it will take long to get some out there, but a lot of credible accounts won't come until the conflict is winding down and finished.
No idea when the war ends, but I don't think it will be 5+ years
Timelines for this stuff has changed a lot.
but what are the Ukes going to do with all this captured Russian equipment?Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:That is just freaking insane. Had to be out of petrol and no re-supply?aggiehawg said:You can tell me a lot, but if you leave such high valuable equipment behind without a scratch you just left it behind in straight panic. Morale totally gone.
— NOËL (@Noel_dotsol) September 13, 2022
Photo: R-934BMV UHF jammer from the Borisoglebsk-2 electronic warfare system captured by Ukrainian forces. pic.twitter.com/HVtI4u3qFS
as they continue to move to more and more NATO equipment, that Red Army stuff is going to be mostly junk.
can they even melt it down and use the steel and parts for other weapons?
The one thing I haven't heard talked about was the orc's fuel situation. I think a lot of these pieces of equipment left behind probably were either fuel hogs that they knew wouldn't get far in a retreat, or they had to pick vehicles that would hold more troops and put all the fuel in those to get away with a chance to make it someplace they perceived to be safeaggiehawg said:You can tell me a lot, but if you leave such high valuable equipment behind without a scratch you just left it behind in straight panic. Morale totally gone.
— NOËL (@Noel_dotsol) September 13, 2022
Photo: R-934BMV UHF jammer from the Borisoglebsk-2 electronic warfare system captured by Ukrainian forces. pic.twitter.com/HVtI4u3qFS
Today's SITREP.
American MRAPS .. those look pretty tough
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CiX6UpJgjoz/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D
Not sure the vid won't post ?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CiX6UpJgjoz/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D
Not sure the vid won't post ?
LMCane said:but what are the Ukes going to do with all this captured Russian equipment?Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:That is just freaking insane. Had to be out of petrol and no re-supply?aggiehawg said:You can tell me a lot, but if you leave such high valuable equipment behind without a scratch you just left it behind in straight panic. Morale totally gone.
— NOËL (@Noel_dotsol) September 13, 2022
Photo: R-934BMV UHF jammer from the Borisoglebsk-2 electronic warfare system captured by Ukrainian forces. pic.twitter.com/HVtI4u3qFS
as they continue to move to more and more NATO equipment, that Red Army stuff is going to be mostly junk.
can they even melt it down and use the steel and parts for other weapons?
That can use both. Or sell it. Or use it for OpFor. Lots of things.
Yuck, they can keep those damn things. MaxxPro's are the most uncomfortable wheeled vehicle I ever rode in. I had MaxxPro Plus and Caiman Plus MRAPs in my platoon, and there was a reason I chose the Caiman as my command vehicle.
aggiehawg said:What is left at Mariupol? Most civilians have been killed. Steel plant bombed into oblivion.Quote:
Interesting. At 4:14, he says that Russia is afraid that Ukraine will move their forces into Mariupol from the North, and also he mentions that Ukraine is gathering forces near Zaporizhzhia, possibly for a Melitopol attack. The latter is especially notable given reports that Russians are leaving Melitopol.
Lots and lots of evidence of war crimes. And, some of the people that lived there would probably like to return. It's not all destroyed. There are lots of memories remaining.
If I had land before Putin started this stupid experiment then I would want it back as a civilian. If I was a soldier over there then that's what I would be fighting for
It's not Russia's land. Putin can't just claim it and have his army rape, kill, harass, and steal what they want. We teach our kids this when they are two years old. "No swipes, that's not yours"
It's not Russia's land. Putin can't just claim it and have his army rape, kill, harass, and steal what they want. We teach our kids this when they are two years old. "No swipes, that's not yours"
B-1 83 said:Just what all is this beast capable of jamming?aggiehawg said:You can tell me a lot, but if you leave such high valuable equipment behind without a scratch you just left it behind in straight panic. Morale totally gone.
— NOËL (@Noel_dotsol) September 13, 2022
Photo: R-934BMV UHF jammer from the Borisoglebsk-2 electronic warfare system captured by Ukrainian forces. pic.twitter.com/HVtI4u3qFS
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