***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Looks like russia really needs pilots as Trevor Reed freed in prisoner swap.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-releases-us-marine-vet-113929166.html

Or what was the real deal as UKR intelligence would ask?
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two big days for Mil Air in Europe yesterday 315 today 415.

Notables
Forte 10 in the Black sea looping, not far from Moskva sink site.
UK SIGINT RC135 all over the Black Sea.
Given those two above I suspect F35s all over the Black Sea as well.

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UPDATE
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MeatDr said:



When you have been huffing your own farts non-stop for so long that you think that is what clean air smells like, this is the kind of rhetoric you come up with...
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Hope these guys fully recover and heal quickly, whether they get to return to battle or not.
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Folks around the world of all political stripes who think they or someone else could have done this or that to prevent this (and other transgressions by Russia) really need to pay closer attention to how far down the toilet the minds and critical thinking skills of Russia's leadership have gone over the past decade or so.
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Joes said:

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It still boggles my mind that two modern armies are hurling cruise missiles and heavy armor at each other in 2022. That being said, Slava Ukraini.
I see this sentiment all the time and don't understand it. What the heck does the year have to do with it? Are you suggesting that you thought humans had evolved into something different in the last 100 years? Human nature doesn't change, and it won't. If we're still here then we'll have large scale warfare 100 years from now and 1000 years from now. There's nothing special about this year just because we're living in it.
I'm still getting my head around this as well, some thoughts:
- Assange's comments that citizens don't want war, and must be "tricked" - this is getting harder to do with social media. This was posted here, great watch.
- The political fallout that is accompanied with war, as well as huge cost and expense
- Russia can't even manage their own country, much less take on additional countries
- The people that you "rule" will smile to your face and stab you in the back. Will constantly undermine you at every chance they get. "Ruling" is a huge cost.
- Globalization has improved quality of life for many, but now will be reversed. Germany will pay more for Russian energy alternatives and will enter decline, Russia will make less, etc.
- The Russian educated mid/upper class is fleeing en masse, which leads to further problems with economy, brain drain, etc.

Wars to redraw lines on a map are now monumentally stupid, and world citizens will pay the bill in $ and lives to subsidize a leader's idea of "greatness". Hopefully this lesson is learned by the world from this war.

As in school, business, etc... a few bad actors ruin for the many.
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Thanks to 'ticus, former military and other contributors here, it has been a fascinating ride. I would imagine we have supplied the Ukes with all the best little night time toys to do severe damage to the russians. Initially I would have thought that night time would be dying time but based on the russian morale, archaic equipment, complete lack of new playbook, and smoking of field leadership, night time should be major killing time for the Ukes. Will be huge lessons learned when military experts dissect this through the coming years.

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Just a bit of this article:

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A close adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said that the assaults inside Russia near Ukraine's eastern border were payback against launching pads for the invasion, but he stopped short of saying the Ukrainian military was responsible, attributing the attacks to "karma" instead.

In Russia, three governors confirmed that their regions had been targeted. An ammunition depot was set on fire near Belgorod, a city less than 20 miles from the border. Two explosions were reported in Voronezh, nearly 200 miles from Ukraine, and a Ukrainian drone was reportedly shot down over Kursk, about 70 miles from the border.

The attacks in Kursk and Voronezh, where air-defense systems were reportedly activated, raised the specter of a wider war, as they were farther inside Russia than previous targets.

Ukraine's defense ministry has generally declined to discuss reports of attacks on Russian soil. In two months of war, the fighting has largely been contained within Ukraine's borders, though Russia claims that two Ukrainian helicopters fired on an oil depot in Belgorod in early April.

Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Mr. Zelensky and a member of the Ukrainian delegation to the stalled peace talks, wrote in Russian on his channel on the Telegram chat app that warehouses in regions like Belgorod and Voronezh were being used to supply fuel for armed vehicles in Ukraine. Disarming them, he wrote was "a very natural process," adding, "Karma is a cruel thing."

"If you (Russians) decided to attack another country in its entirety, to kill everyone there indiscriminately, to crush civilians with tanks and use warehouses in your regions to provide for your killings, then sooner or later you will have to pay the debt," Mr. Podolyak wrote.

In Belgorod, where the ammunition depot caught fire, no homes were damaged and there were no civilian casualties, the governor, Vyacheslav Gladkov, wrote on his Telegram channel.

Roman Starovoit, the regional governor for Kursk also used his Telegram channel to announce that a Ukrainian drone was shot down over the city, but that there was no damage and no casualties.

The governor of Voronezh, Alexander Gusev, made a similar announcement, saying that air defenses had successfully detected and destroyed a small reconnaissance drone, without specifying whether it was Ukrainian. The official TASS news agency reported that two "loud blasts" were heard in Voronezh.

In Moscow, Nikolai Patrushev, the secretary for President Vladimir V. Putin's security council, urged officials from across a wide swath of the southwestern region near Ukraine to make sure the systems to issue emergency alerts for the civilian population as well as civil defense facilities were "working reliably."

Bomb shelters and other physical infrastructure should remain under the control of federal officials and not be sold off, he said.
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Fine. Let Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela try to invade the US with whatever broke ass leftovers that Russia doesn't think are good enough for them. I'm not sure if he honestly thinks that's a threat. I'd pay to see that fiasco, though.

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Translation of "Warning" sent "from Ukraine".

"Hello, dear residents of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic! The Security Service of Ukraine strongly recommends that the civilian population be evacuated to safer regions. We assure you that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not wish harm to civilians, however, the people remaining in the cities will be perceived as sabotage groups and will be liquidated without warning. The Armed Forces of Ukraine provide civilians with time to evacuate - until 19:00 local time. Exactly at 19:00, rocket and artillery shelling of military facilities on the territory of the republic will be carried out. You have been warned. Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the [Armed Forces of Ukraine]!"
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Australia kicking in more equipment.
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Full thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1519277416757276672.html

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Thank God for Elon Musk, on two fronts!
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Amazing that the actions of one guy to decide to send his Starlinks very early on has made such a difference.

And it is working so well. Great PR for what appears to be proven as a great product.
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Rossticus said:



i think the weather (time of the year when the land is soft) and condition of the countryside is why the Russians were stuck to using roads. Add that to the long list of tactical mistakes.
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Fitch said:




Elon helping the good guys make Putin "REEEE!" like the little tinpot dictator that he is.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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