Turkey is a NATO member, Ukraine is in a territorial fight with Russia meaning if the lose, Russia ends up with it.

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Turkey is a NATO member, Ukraine is in a territorial fight with Russia meaning if the lose, Russia ends up with it.

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A NATO member who bought air defense systems from Russia.

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🤡 Trump says the US never agreed to hand Ukraine licenses to build Patriot interceptors. He says you have to be careful giving out advanced weapons tech, since the people you give it to could turn on you. pic.twitter.com/T4WJ1eTAoK

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) July 31, 2026

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I don't disagree with this.

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Selling a unit is a mssive difference vs selling the blueprints. I can draw this in crayon if you want.
More concerned about the tech being stolen and sold.

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If that's a concern then you don't give them to Ukraine at all. Are they currently stealing/selling them?

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🤡 Trump says the US never agreed to hand Ukraine licenses to build Patriot interceptors. He says you have to be careful giving out advanced weapons tech, since the people you give it to could turn on you. pic.twitter.com/T4WJ1eTAoK

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) July 31, 2026

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I don't disagree with this.

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Selling a unit is a mssive difference vs selling the blueprints. I can draw this in crayon if you want.
More concerned about the tech being stolen and sold.

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If that's a concern then you don't give them to Ukraine at all. Are they currently stealing/selling them?

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You mean you haven't eaten the entire box yet? Please use the brightly colored ones if there are any of them left.

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🤡 Trump says the US never agreed to hand Ukraine licenses to build Patriot interceptors. He says you have to be careful giving out advanced weapons tech, since the people you give it to could turn on you. pic.twitter.com/T4WJ1eTAoK

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) July 31, 2026

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I don't disagree with this.

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Simply posting as an update since it was widely reported, and stated by the admin, that we had indeed approved production. I believe the justification given is cheap bs, however. There's no more chance that Ukraine will "turn on us" militarily than Poland, France, England, etc.

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We're selling to Turkey and they're more of an enemy than Ukraine.

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The issue is Zelensky then turned around and said he wanted to put key weapons production in the UK.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/07/31/president-trump-pauses-consideration-of-giving-ukraine-patriot-or-tomahawk-missile-systems/

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Zelenskyy likely did himself no favors when he announced his intention to build missile and drone factories in the U.K. No doubt several Trump administration officials noted that statement and contrast it against Zelenskyy's requests.

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Someone else posted the Camp David video response which is a little funny/rambling but I think he (and CTH) is right on the substance here. More at the link.

Marco Rubio to Fox News:

You are going to see some efforts over the next few weeks to see if we can restart talks between Russia and Ukraine and bring this war to an end.

We also understand that both sides have some pretty strong red lines, and until we can bring those red… pic.twitter.com/g1eHnIPzws

— Clash Report (@clashreport) August 1, 2026

❗️🛰️ Russian Rassvet satellites have reached a stable coverage window of several hours of communication over Ukraine, — Militarnyi

The first batch of 16 satellites, launched at the end of March, has actually completed deployment: 12 devices have already reached an operating… pic.twitter.com/ck124lte95

— MAKS 26 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) August 1, 2026

The first batch of 16 satellites, launched at the end of March, has actually completed deployment: 12 devices have already reached an operating altitude of 550 km, three more are rising, and one satellite has burned out.

Currently, they provide at least two "communication windows" per day, lasting 11.5 hours. During this time, the enemy can use satellite terminals to control naval drones, as well as strike and reconnaissance UAVs.

At the end of July, Russia launched another 16 satellites, which will reach an operating altitude in October-November.

If the current pace is maintained, the Russian Federation can deploy 24-hour coverage over Ukraine by mid-2027.

Russia hit Ukraine overnight with 35 missiles and 185 drones. Air defense shot down 2 missiles and 154 drones. Kyiv was the main target.

The attack included 4 Zircons, 27 Iskander-M/S-400 missiles, 2 Kh-31, 2 Kh-59/69 and 185 drones of various types. 30 missiles and 23 drones… pic.twitter.com/GtDIPZD4Ki

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) August 1, 2026

The attack included 4 Zircons, 27 Iskander-M/S-400 missiles, 2 Kh-31, 2 Kh-59/69 and 185 drones of various types. 30 missiles and 23 drones hit 21 locations.

In Kyiv, 9 killed, 30 wounded. 5 ambulances burned, 20 vehicles damaged, 18 buildings hit, a school and Lithuania's embassy damaged.

Agree. The goal should be for Ukraine to be as independent as possible in weapons production, with us filling gaps. If we're choosing to behave punitively over that, then I think that absolutely speaks to our underlying motivation and ultimate level of trustworthiness.

Russian milbloggers say there are no serious military targets in Kyiv, and the strikes are mostly for show to pressure civilians until they break and demand a "deal". pic.twitter.com/lHbKN9uTjI

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) August 1, 2026

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Russian milbloggers say there are no serious military targets in Kyiv, and the strikes are mostly for show to pressure civilians until they break and demand a "deal". pic.twitter.com/lHbKN9uTjI

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) August 1, 2026

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Not sure why Ukraine doesn't use this same strategy in Moscow… tooth for a tooth. Those cheap long range drones landing all over around Moscow would cause serious issues for Pooty

You may be onto something here…. Your probably right on this one

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Russia hit Ukraine overnight with 35 missiles and 185 drones. Air defense shot down 2 missiles and 154 drones. Kyiv was the main target.

The attack included 4 Zircons, 27 Iskander-M/S-400 missiles, 2 Kh-31, 2 Kh-59/69 and 185 drones of various types. 30 missiles and 23 drones… pic.twitter.com/GtDIPZD4Ki

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) August 1, 2026

The attack included 4 Zircons, 27 Iskander-M/S-400 missiles, 2 Kh-31, 2 Kh-59/69 and 185 drones of various types. 30 missiles and 23 drones hit 21 locations.

In Kyiv, 9 killed, 30 wounded. 5 ambulances burned, 20 vehicles damaged, 18 buildings hit, a school and Lithuania's embassy damaged.

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9 is bad if it's you or your family but Curtis LeMay would say they aren't having a real war.

Russia is doing one of largest conscriptions and say they are trying to take the heart out of Ukraine. Don't think they are backing down anytime soon.

Local residents filmed an FP-5 Flamingo cruise missile flying almost directly overhead at extremely low altitude. pic.twitter.com/a4akIKLTag

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) August 2, 2026

That's wild. Either that thing's altimeter is off or Ukraine has upgraded their cruise missile considerably.

👀An unknown 🇺🇦Ukrainian kamikaze drone of unusual shape was spotted today in the 🇷🇺Saratov region pic.twitter.com/jAWZpEqMcO

— 🪖MilitaryNewsUA🇺🇦 (@front_ukrainian) August 2, 2026

🦅🇺🇦 During the morning attack on Russia, a video appeared showing a previously unknown UAV, - DroneBomber

We can assume that it was a Ukrainian long-range, turbojet UAV called "Bravo".

Range - up to 2000 km.

Warhead - 100-200 kg.

Speed ​​- 650-700 km/h. pic.twitter.com/aqUKoVWmc6

— MAKS 26 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) August 2, 2026

Russia backs down when Putin falls out of a window
Maybe his situation is so secure that's is impervious to the outside world.
Hopefully somebody has a way to end this soon

🚨 This is what modern hybrid warfare looks like: Russia has obtained Ukrainian drones for provocations

Russian forces are repairing captured Ukrainian UAVs or producing copies and using them in their operations, Militarnyi reports.

A Ukrainian interceptor drone spotted an… pic.twitter.com/i3XEBQKnOH

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) August 2, 2026

SBU says the strike on the Khanskaya airbase was carried out as part of a 40-day operation.

Result:
• 2 Su-35 fighters destroyed
• 2 L-29 aircraft destroyed

The days when russian airbases could count on distance for protection are over. pic.twitter.com/RG5DnWqK3a

— UAVoyager🇺🇦 (@CrimeanVoyager) August 3, 2026

Informative interview with Ukraine's Fire Point boss who is adding key cards to Zelensky's hand.

"Fire Point's FP-1 and FP-2 drones have been striking Russian targets to devastating effect and its heavy-hitting Flamingo cruise missiles are adding a new level of long-range threat.

Beyond these, Fire Point is developing the FP-9 ballistic missile to hit targets up to about 500 miles away and the FP-7.x ballistic missile interceptor, intended to provide a more plentiful and cheaper alternative to Patriot munitions."

INNOVATION

Necessity is the mother of invention, as they say.

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That's wild. Either that thing's altimeter is off or Ukraine has upgraded their cruise missile considerably.

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Yeah I saw a tweet that said they now fly around 15 meters off of the deck.

Pretty amazing.

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That's wild. Either that thing's altimeter is off or Ukraine has upgraded their cruise missile considerably.

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Yeah I saw a tweet that said that now fly around 15 meters off of the deck.

Pretty amazing.

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Another example of Russia's criminal "Human Safari" using drones to randomly hunt civilians.

Video from Ukraine’s National Police showing a Russian fiber optic cable FPV targeting a civilian vendor at a market in Kherson. The man survived. https://t.co/ay8JSqi4Se pic.twitter.com/9PeCu53Ra1

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) August 4, 2026

Somebody post the video of the VDV paratrooper celebrating VDV airborne forces day and jumping to his death. His chute was a Roman candle and splatnik!

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Another example of Russia's criminal "Human Safari" using drones to randomly hunt civilians.

Video from Ukraine’s National Police showing a Russian fiber optic cable FPV targeting a civilian vendor at a market in Kherson. The man survived. https://t.co/ay8JSqi4Se pic.twitter.com/9PeCu53Ra1

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) August 4, 2026

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It would be tempting to carry a pair of scissors with you so that whenever you see a drone's fiber optic control cable, you can cut it just in case the drone is still active.

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Another example of Russia's criminal "Human Safari" using drones to randomly hunt civilians.

Video from Ukraine’s National Police showing a Russian fiber optic cable FPV targeting a civilian vendor at a market in Kherson. The man survived. https://t.co/ay8JSqi4Se pic.twitter.com/9PeCu53Ra1

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) August 4, 2026

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It would be tempting to carry a pair of scissors with you so that whenever you see a drone's fiber optic control cable, you can cut it just in case the drone is still active.

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"Yuriy said he and his wife had started to lay out crates of vegetables next to his van when he heard a distinctive buzzing sound overhead.
When his wife ran away, the drone turned to him instead. He held up some heads of garlic towards the drone's camera to show the operator that he was not trying to film it.
"It could see that I had tomatoes out, some cucumbers and eggplants laid out on the floor," Yuriy said. "It even ducked under the umbrella when I was running away round the other side."

More COVERAGE.

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Another example of Russia's criminal "Human Safari" using drones to randomly hunt civilians.

Video from Ukraine’s National Police showing a Russian fiber optic cable FPV targeting a civilian vendor at a market in Kherson. The man survived. https://t.co/ay8JSqi4Se pic.twitter.com/9PeCu53Ra1

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) August 4, 2026

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It would be tempting to carry a pair of scissors with you so that whenever you see a drone's fiber optic control cable, you can cut it just in case the drone is still active.

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"Yuriy said he and his wife had started to lay out crates of vegetables next to his van when he heard a distinctive buzzing sound overhead.
When his wife ran away, the drone turned to him instead. He held up some heads of garlic towards the drone's camera to show the operator that he was not trying to film it.
"It could see that I had tomatoes out, some cucumbers and eggplants laid out on the floor," Yuriy said. "It even ducked under the umbrella when I was running away round the other side."

More COVERAGE.

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Between two fixed objects, a cable dangles in a shape called a catenary. It's simple physics. We covered this in both my undergraduate Classical Mechanics course in Physics and in my graduate Special Topics in the Calculus of Variations course in Mathematics.

Of course, it won't be perfect because the drone is moving, but it should give a good idea of the path. That cable is highly unlikely to be floating around in the air.

Presumably there is some distance between the operator and the drone. Unless the length of the cable is short or the endpoints are high in the air, that cable is going to be on the ground for much of the distance and would be susceptible to being broken or severed along that path.

Assuming that the cable is reasonably thin (if it was thick, it would seem like that would be a great deal of weight for the drone to carry or pull), any citizen along that part of the path where it is on or close to the ground could simply cut the cable and sever the control of the operator over the drone.