Growing signs #Putin has ordered a medieval siege of #Kyiv
— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) February 28, 2022
Cut a city of millions off from food, fuel, power, communications & supplies & then bomb & starve the govt into submission
We need to start thinking about what we can & are willing to do to prevent such a barbaric crime
***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]
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Fair, thanks for the insight!
New: Very grim rumors circulating about a Russian strike against a convoy transporting Israelis out of Ukraine, with intimations it is a very serious incident. @IsraelMFA is involved. https://t.co/AHi3guv4ev
— Noga Tarnopolsky (@NTarnopolsky) February 28, 2022
That's a BMP-3 at the beginning. I don't know what it was, but it got several vehicles in a cluster. I wouldn't be anywhere near something burning with a bunch of 152mm shells scattered about.
1950s era bomber flying around. Doesn't bode well for Ukraine's ability to contest airspace with SAMs if a turboprop bomber is flying around.
Oh Sh@t IDF and Mossad about to get in the mix.....
Robk said:New: Very grim rumors circulating about a Russian strike against a convoy transporting Israelis out of Ukraine, with intimations it is a very serious incident. @IsraelMFA is involved. https://t.co/AHi3guv4ev
— Noga Tarnopolsky (@NTarnopolsky) February 28, 2022
Putin is one dumb mother ****er if he chooses to piss of the Israelis
Edit:one MEEN Ag said:
1950s era bomber flying around. Doesn't bode well for Ukraine's ability to contest airspace with SAMs if a turboprop bomber is flying around.
Sorry, I misread your quote. My bad. Definitely agree with you.
An aireal attack against Israeli's leaving Ukraine seems like that just fast tracks Israeli SAMs back up to Ukraine.
If the video about radar/comms site being devastated is to be believed they may be more comfortable bringing them in now. I believe they are the Russian counterpart to the B-52 for us. So if they are around we may start seeing more "area" bombing.
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I agree with you completely. This isn't good. Ukraine's going to need air defenses quick if it wants to stave off carpet bombing. Russia wouldn't have sent that plane in if they were worried a SAM or a fighter jet would be able to respond.aeroag14 said:This is the equivalent of Americans sending in B-52s (which was initially designed before the TU-95, fyi).one MEEN Ag said:
1950s era bomber flying around. Doesn't bode well for Ukraine's ability to contest airspace with SAMs if a turboprop bomber is flying around.
If it is a Tu-95, it means 2 things.
1) That the Russians have assessed that they have degraded Ukrainian Anti-Air assets to a point that they can now send in (mostly) defenseless bombers
2) The Russians can now deliver more (and larger) payloads of munitions.
100% agree. Misread your initial post.
Mossad for sure if true. But highly unlikely the IDF gets involved.Salute CornPops Message said:
Oh Sh@t IDF and Mossad about to get in the mix.....
Aggie_3 said:Robk said:New: Very grim rumors circulating about a Russian strike against a convoy transporting Israelis out of Ukraine, with intimations it is a very serious incident. @IsraelMFA is involved. https://t.co/AHi3guv4ev
— Noga Tarnopolsky (@NTarnopolsky) February 28, 2022
Putin is one dumb mother ****er if he chooses to piss of the Israelis
Remember when he was denatzifying the government as a pretext for war? Putin is beyond laughable at this point.
Interesting thread here about some of what Russia is doing on the propaganda front. Using AI generated faces to create supposedly legitimate accounts
Quick thread:
— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) February 28, 2022
I want you all to meet Vladimir Bondarenko.
He’s a blogger from Kiev who really hates the Ukrainian government.
He also doesn’t exist, according to Facebook.
He’s an invention of a Russian troll farm targeting Ukraine. His face was made by AI. pic.twitter.com/uWslj1Xnx3
Wild. Ukrainian Defense Minister @oleksiireznikov says, "We offer Russian soldiers a choice: die in an unjust war, or be granted full amnesty and 5 million rubles compensation. If they lay down their arms and voluntarily surrender." https://t.co/OIwylRJglv
— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) February 28, 2022
At the rate things are going, the 5 million rubles will like 50 bucks soon.JobSecurity said:Wild. Ukrainian Defense Minister @oleksiireznikov says, "We offer Russian soldiers a choice: die in an unjust war, or be granted full amnesty and 5 million rubles compensation. If they lay down their arms and voluntarily surrender." https://t.co/OIwylRJglv
— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) February 28, 2022
I think we're finally seeing the war machine we thought would Russia would steam roll in on Day 1 with. Russia has decided it would rather have a flattened city than no city at all.
EU is going to need to respond with more than just small arms and anti-tank missiles if it wants to see Ukraine beat back the Russians.
EU is going to need to respond with more than just small arms and anti-tank missiles if it wants to see Ukraine beat back the Russians.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/02/28/world/ukraine-russia-war
Quote:
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France is moving its embassy in Ukraine from Kyiv to Lviv because of safety concerns, the French foreign minister announced on Monday evening.
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And I agree with the posters cautioning about an escalation. I feel for the Ukes, but their our lives will go on whether they prevail or not.
And frankly, America has already won. Any rational chicom will question whether their tech can hang with western. The likelihood of them invading Taiwan must be seriously reduced. Germany is finally paying its NATO dues.
And now, it sounds like zelensky is getting prideful. If the Russians were willing to go home in exchange for crimea and the break away eastern provinces- that was the deal to make. Ukraine will never get those back. The resident don't want to be part of Ukraine just like the rest of Ukraine does not want to be a Russian satellite.
Not saying that was the offer. We do know that zelensky has refused to cede an inch.
And frankly, America has already won. Any rational chicom will question whether their tech can hang with western. The likelihood of them invading Taiwan must be seriously reduced. Germany is finally paying its NATO dues.
And now, it sounds like zelensky is getting prideful. If the Russians were willing to go home in exchange for crimea and the break away eastern provinces- that was the deal to make. Ukraine will never get those back. The resident don't want to be part of Ukraine just like the rest of Ukraine does not want to be a Russian satellite.
Not saying that was the offer. We do know that zelensky has refused to cede an inch.
Zelensky speaks
"Put down your weapons and leave."
— The Associated Press (@AP) February 28, 2022
VIDEO: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy makes an appeal in Russian to invading forces. He also announced that prison inmates in Ukraine may be allowed to join the fight.
Full story: https://t.co/vbU6zHNV1h pic.twitter.com/JiapqqohYu
This fits with strategic bombing of supply lines mentioned earlier.one MEEN Ag said:I agree with you completely. This isn't good. Ukraine's going to need air defenses quick if it wants to stave off carpet bombing. Russia wouldn't have sent that plane in if they were worried a SAM or a fighter jet would be able to respond.aeroag14 said:This is the equivalent of Americans sending in B-52s (which was initially designed before the TU-95, fyi).one MEEN Ag said:
1950s era bomber flying around. Doesn't bode well for Ukraine's ability to contest airspace with SAMs if a turboprop bomber is flying around.
If it is a Tu-95, it means 2 things.
1) That the Russians have assessed that they have degraded Ukrainian Anti-Air assets to a point that they can now send in (mostly) defenseless bombers
2) The Russians can now deliver more (and larger) payloads of munitions.
Thanks for the updates guys. Seems like collateral damage js no longer a concern of Putin now, which is concerning.
In terms of age, the B-52 says hi.one MEEN Ag said:
1950s era bomber flying around. Doesn't bode well for Ukraine's ability to contest airspace with SAMs if a turboprop bomber is flying around.
The TU-95 can fly high and fast. It is still the fastest turboprop aircraft in operation. If that is what it was, then most likely Ivan knows the airspace in that area is not contested by SAMs which can reach high altitude.
Its about $50KAustinAg2K said:At the rate things are going, the 5 million rubles will like 50 bucks soon.JobSecurity said:Wild. Ukrainian Defense Minister @oleksiireznikov says, "We offer Russian soldiers a choice: die in an unjust war, or be granted full amnesty and 5 million rubles compensation. If they lay down their arms and voluntarily surrender." https://t.co/OIwylRJglv
— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) February 28, 2022
Attack on the Russian vehicle #Russia #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/cWuP2sPFQx
— Ukraine Online (@Online1Ukraine) February 28, 2022
About $47,000 USD, I think.Quote:
So what's that like five dollars now?
Uh, first rule of Molotov cocktail is don't fire bomb yourself
The only reason I mention the age is because basically every generation of surface to air missile comes after the creation of these bombers. Russia's not using a knock off version of a B2 here.Rapier108 said:In terms of age, the B-52 says hi.one MEEN Ag said:
1950s era bomber flying around. Doesn't bode well for Ukraine's ability to contest airspace with SAMs if a turboprop bomber is flying around.
The TU-95 can fly high and fast. It is still the fastest turboprop aircraft in operation. If that is what it was, then most likely Ivan knows the airspace in that area is not contested by SAMs which can reach high altitude.
They could dust off SAMs from any generation and it have the capabilities to take out a plane with the flight envelope of a turboprop bomber. (Of course, that doesn't mean there aren't other counter measures that need to be overcome).
Things aren't looking good.
GeorgiAg said:Attack on the Russian vehicle #Russia #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/cWuP2sPFQx
— Ukraine Online (@Online1Ukraine) February 28, 2022
Obligatory: I saw that going differently in my head.
Looks like she got her arm with that Molotov cocktail.
And the guy in the back seat. Live and learnjabberwalkie09 said:GeorgiAg said:Attack on the Russian vehicle #Russia #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/cWuP2sPFQx
— Ukraine Online (@Online1Ukraine) February 28, 2022
Obligatory: I saw that going differently in my head.
Looks like she got her arm with that Molotov cocktail.
one MEEN Ag said:The only reason I mention the age is because basically every generation of surface to air missile comes after the creation of these bombers. Russia's not using a knock off version of a B2 here.Rapier108 said:In terms of age, the B-52 says hi.one MEEN Ag said:
1950s era bomber flying around. Doesn't bode well for Ukraine's ability to contest airspace with SAMs if a turboprop bomber is flying around.
The TU-95 can fly high and fast. It is still the fastest turboprop aircraft in operation. If that is what it was, then most likely Ivan knows the airspace in that area is not contested by SAMs which can reach high altitude.
They could dust off SAMs from any generation and it have the capabilities to take out a plane with the flight envelope of a turboprop bomber. (Of course, that doesn't mean there aren't other counter measures that need to be overcome).
Things aren't looking good.
If Russia had a B2 equivalent in their inventory, they would have used it by now. AFAIK, they don't have anything in their bomber inventory that is analogous. I don't think any country does currently actually.
Doesn't Ukraine have any SA2 (S75)? I thought those could hit higher altitude and had some range. SA5 I doubt they have.
Then again, I'm from a different era so my info is old
Then again, I'm from a different era so my info is old
Can't say I've ever made one, but do Molotovs include styrofoam?
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