***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Increasing reports that ATACMS has been released and other miscellaneous notes.

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LMCane said:

Pretty good video footage of recent Uke attack on Russkie Black Sea Fleet HQ in Sevastopol

some major damage

Ukes Strike Again
Admiral Viktor Solokov, Supreme Commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet KIA in that strike. UNCONFIRMED

He was probably about to fall off a balcony anyway.
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JFABNRGR said:

LMCane said:

Pretty good video footage of recent Uke attack on Russkie Black Sea Fleet HQ in Sevastopol

some major damage

Ukes Strike Again
Admiral Viktor Solokov, Supreme Commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet KIA in that strike.

He was probably about to fall off a balcony anyway.
pretty sure the last time the USA lost a General or Admiral in combat was World War II

Russkies have lost close to a dozen Colonels, Generals and Admirals in 18 months.
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LMCane said:



pretty sure the last time the USA lost a General or Admiral in combat was World War II


He died at his desk with a building falling on him.

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Reports now leaking out that US will provide 30 ATACMS maneuvering ballistic missiles and Germany will provide 100 Taurus cruise missiles in two batches.

If verified, the token number of ATACMS should be viewed in the same light as the equally token offer of 30 Abrams, in that both are diplomatic moves to give Scholz the political cover he needs to provide comparable German weapons.

In the meantime, it's still RUMINT.
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And makes it easy to quietly send more later.
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74OA said:

Reports now leaking out that US will provide 30 ATACMS maneuvering ballistic missiles and Germany will provide 100 Taurus cruise missiles in two batches.

If verified, the token number of ATACMS should be viewed in the same light as the equally token offer of 30 Abrams, in that both are diplomatic moves to give Scholz the political cover he needs to provide comparable German weapons.

In the meantime, it's still RUMINT.


Didn't Germany already pledge these weeks ago? In that case it would be Schulz pressuring biden.

Aside the CMs, whats your 30 ATACAM targets?

For me:
4 EA to mainspan of Kerch bridge while train is on it. Leave the vehicle bridge alone so everyone driving past the destroyed RR bridge gets the MSG.
10 EA major bridges rail or road supporting the Dombass area.
8 EA crimea bases targeting ships or aircraft.
8 EA ToO
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LMCane said:

JFABNRGR said:

LMCane said:

Pretty good video footage of recent Uke attack on Russkie Black Sea Fleet HQ in Sevastopol

some major damage

Ukes Strike Again
Admiral Viktor Solokov, Supreme Commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet KIA in that strike.

He was probably about to fall off a balcony anyway.
pretty sure the last time the USA lost a General or Admiral in combat was World War II

Russkies have lost close to a dozen Colonels, Generals and Admirals in 18 months.


There was this Texas Aggie named Bruno Hochmuth but you probably wouldn't have heard of him.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Hochmuth

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JFABNRGR said:

LMCane said:

Pretty good video footage of recent Uke attack on Russkie Black Sea Fleet HQ in Sevastopol

some major damage

Ukes Strike Again
Admiral Viktor Solokov, Supreme Commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet KIA in that strike.

He was probably about to fall off a balcony anyway.


Source?
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GAC06 said:

JFABNRGR said:

LMCane said:

Pretty good video footage of recent Uke attack on Russkie Black Sea Fleet HQ in Sevastopol

some major damage

Ukes Strike Again
Admiral Viktor Solokov, Supreme Commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet KIA in that strike.

He was probably about to fall off a balcony anyway.


Source?


UNCONFIRMED
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Good robot.
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Broad daylight.
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Not a Bot said:





Broad daylight.
The Ukes wanted people there.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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Publicly demonstrates the complete ineffectiveness of Russian air defenses. Can't blame this one on Ivan smoking too close to the ammunition pile or on a successful surface-to-air intercept with the resulatnt debris causing the damage.
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Gilligan said:

By my estimation Ukes are 8 to 10 miles from Tokmak from two different directions.

That's a loooong way with all the defenses and fortifications in place.

I keep hoping for some kind of off ramp for Poot'n. I don't know what it could be, but I'm hopeful that the Ukes can take Tokmak before winter and have fire control over the M14 and all the way to the coast.


Speaking of winter...

The ukes cannot stop this offensive for winter. They have to keep the pressure up and cannot allow the Russians a chance to build another layered line of defensive positions.

Maybe it's too great a risk as you might stretch your forces too thin or might be unable to adequately supply them, but, I think Ukraine is going to be pushing the limit on western gratitude if they were pause and try to resume in the spring against a refreshed Russian defense.
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Never mind. It's a bird
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Not a Bot said:





"We've been trying to reach you regarding your submarines extended warranty "
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74OA said:

Ukraine destroys the headquarters of Russia's Black Sea fleet in Crimea. The peninsular is steadily becoming untenable as a secure Russian rear area.
This is the way. Puting Sevastopol and Kurch at risk changes the calculas for everything.
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B-1 83 said:

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Broad daylight.
The Ukes wanted people there.


Yep. Office hours.
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Office hours indeed?
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74OA said:

Reports now leaking out that US will provide 30 ATACMS maneuvering ballistic missiles and Germany will provide 100 Taurus cruise missiles in two batches.

If verified, the token number of ATACMS should be viewed in the same light as the equally token offer of 30 Abrams, in that both are diplomatic moves to give Scholz the political cover he needs to provide comparable German weapons.

In the meantime, it's still RUMINT.
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Maybe Russia should move to wfh
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Work from hell?
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GAC06 said:

Work from hell?
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Do we have any idea how many Russians have left Crimea? Seems a bunch should be packing bags about now.
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HQ jobs are seeming less cushy
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benchmark said:

74OA said:

Ukraine destroys the headquarters of Russia's Black Sea fleet in Crimea. The peninsula is steadily becoming untenable as a secure Russian rear area.
This is the way. Putting Sevastopol and Kerch at risk changes the calculus for everything.
It's going to make it diffyq for them.
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benchmark said:

74OA said:

Ukraine destroys the headquarters of Russia's Black Sea fleet in Crimea. The peninsular is steadily becoming untenable as a secure Russian rear area.
This is the way. Puting Sevastopol and Kurch at risk changes the calculas for everything.
With those long range missles there is really no reason Russia should hang around, they can bomb them once a week for the next 20years .. that port will turn into rubble in 6 months if they keep bombing it. Ivan can't even take a dump at work now and not worry about a cruise missile knocking him off the toilet and turning his arse into dust particles
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Sevastopol changes from an asset to a liability if you can't stop missiles from hitting it
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B-1 83 said:

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Broad daylight.
The Ukes wanted people there.


They are invading members of a foreign army no different than hitting a tank or a trench
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Of course. I was marveling at the planning.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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Agreed, but there is a case to be made that killing the elite officers and contract workers within the war machine is more humane than hundreds of thousands of conscripted in a trench that had no choice.
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Just for fun.

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