PJYoung said:

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nortex97 said:

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Robotyne offensive pocket a very dangerous position, explaining the armor (and other) losses:

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The Ukrainian forces are stuck on the low ground at about 170 feet above sea level while the Russian forces occupy the hills of some 450 feet height to the left and right flank of the Ukrainians. (I have unfortunately failed to recognize this previously because most online maps lack contour lines.)

Being at a higher ground allows one to see further - and to shoot further. A mortar fired from a hill to the ground below will fly further than one fired from the low ground to the heights above. Running and storming uphill is more difficult than running downhill.

Unless the Ukrainians manage to storm the hillsides their progress towards Robotyne will by a short and bloody endeavor.

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Robotyne was taken by the Ukrainians over a week ago.

The comment section is extreme. Wow. Talk about an upside down world.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/08/ukraine-sitrep-topography-shapes-the-battle-field-abysmal-medical-service-causes-death.html#more

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That site is a ****hole of circle jerking stupidity.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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PJYoung said:

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nortex97 said:

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Robotyne offensive pocket a very dangerous position, explaining the armor (and other) losses:

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The Ukrainian forces are stuck on the low ground at about 170 feet above sea level while the Russian forces occupy the hills of some 450 feet height to the left and right flank of the Ukrainians. (I have unfortunately failed to recognize this previously because most online maps lack contour lines.)

Being at a higher ground allows one to see further - and to shoot further. A mortar fired from a hill to the ground below will fly further than one fired from the low ground to the heights above. Running and storming uphill is more difficult than running downhill.

Unless the Ukrainians manage to storm the hillsides their progress towards Robotyne will by a short and bloody endeavor.

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Robotyne was taken by the Ukrainians over a week ago.

The comment section is extreme. Wow. Talk about an upside down world.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/08/ukraine-sitrep-topography-shapes-the-battle-field-abysmal-medical-service-causes-death.html#more

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That site is a ****hole of circle jerking stupidity.

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Yep. And there are idiots out there that actually buy into that crap. moonofalabama? WTF is that?

docb said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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PJYoung said:

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nortex97 said:

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Robotyne offensive pocket a very dangerous position, explaining the armor (and other) losses:

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The Ukrainian forces are stuck on the low ground at about 170 feet above sea level while the Russian forces occupy the hills of some 450 feet height to the left and right flank of the Ukrainians. (I have unfortunately failed to recognize this previously because most online maps lack contour lines.)

Being at a higher ground allows one to see further - and to shoot further. A mortar fired from a hill to the ground below will fly further than one fired from the low ground to the heights above. Running and storming uphill is more difficult than running downhill.

Unless the Ukrainians manage to storm the hillsides their progress towards Robotyne will by a short and bloody endeavor.

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Robotyne was taken by the Ukrainians over a week ago.

The comment section is extreme. Wow. Talk about an upside down world.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/08/ukraine-sitrep-topography-shapes-the-battle-field-abysmal-medical-service-causes-death.html#more

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That site is a ****hole of circle jerking stupidity.

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Yep. And there are idiots out there that actually buy into that crap. moonofalabama? WTF is that?

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It's apparently from a song lyric. The site was started by a former Daily Kos blogger IIRC. It is a cesspool, and pretty much everyone there speaks with the authority of someone too stupid to know they're an idiot.

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Cardboard drones are stealthy.

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-claims-damaged-prized-russian-115010616.html

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How big a rubber band does it have and how long do you have to twist it to reach 75 miles?

I wonder if made of wax board they're not being picked up on radar?

True and false.

F-16s can't go up against current gen Russian fighters. They'll shoot them down before the Ukes know they're there. So They won't be making runs deep into Russia on the offensive.

They can however pose a big enough threat to force Russia's hand in the black sea. Provide the means to cut Crimea off for good and provide a true multifaceted solution to Russia's ability to harass west of the front lines and hit Ukraine cities from afar. It also means Russia would have to send fighter cover for Alligators and fighter bombers supporting the front lines and threatening Ukraine breakthroughs. Something they aren't currently doing.

It changes a lot. It's the reason Russia has thrown a childish tantrum in regards to F-16s. I'm sure you'll tell your Russian bloggers that as well.

That dude seems stable

The primary obstacle to peace in Europe is the United States, not Russia.

Had the US not inserted itself into Ukraine's affairs and turned the country into a major security threat, Russia would not feel compelled to intervene and secure its own interests. What Russia is doing in…

— Chebureki Man (@CheburekiMan) August 29, 2023

Teslag said:

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That dude seems stable

The primary obstacle to peace in Europe is the United States, not Russia.

Had the US not inserted itself into Ukraine's affairs and turned the country into a major security threat, Russia would not feel compelled to intervene and secure its own interests. What Russia is doing in…

— Chebureki Man (@CheburekiMan) August 29, 2023

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He's probabaly Nortex in real life.

Teslag said:

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That dude seems stable

The primary obstacle to peace in Europe is the United States, not Russia.

Had the US not inserted itself into Ukraine's affairs and turned the country into a major security threat, Russia would not feel compelled to intervene and secure its own interests. What Russia is doing in…

— Chebureki Man (@CheburekiMan) August 29, 2023

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If this were true then why are the RuZZians murdering civilians, stealing children, stealing grain, ore, farming equipment, solar farms, washers & dryers, etc…

If you were genuinely interested you wouldn't be scraping the bottom of Twitter barrel for information.

"Major Security Threat". I assume via "biolabs", radioactive bats, weaponized birds and mosquitoes… not to mention the desire to independently align with Europe vs follow the Belarusian model and/or aspire to BRICS membership.

Not to mention Ukrainian corruption, which somehow only became a talking point for Russia once they were no longer able to actively exploit it as they'd become so fond of doing over the course of 20+ years.

Well that's a black eye...

Ukraine hit brand new, long range Russian radar prototype with GMLRS

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Despite the PREDEL-E and the Leer-2 electronic warfare system shielding the radar, "nothing can be hidden from us on our land," the southern grouping of forces added. "Already in August, our soldiers completely destroyed the unique development worth US $200 million," the military said in a Telegram post.

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Apparently the system debuted in June and was deployed to Kherson. The Ukrainians hit it and the EW system that was supposed to be protecting it. Supposedly it had a range of 250 miles and was made for tracking low flying and ground targets, as well as targets at sea.

So I guess GMLRS and HIMARS are still pretty big...