WTF HAVE I MISSED!!!!? SOMETHING ABOUT A PARKING BRAKE, A FAT CHICK, AND NOW LITTLE BINGER SWINGS FOR THE OTHER TEAM?
****Kyle Rittenhouse Trial-VERDICT WATCH-Day 2****
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Hopefully by them being in the court room, it gives them a sense of urgency to look at this quickly and decide.
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WTF HAVE I MISSED!!!!? SOMETHING ABOUT A PARKING BRAKE, A FAT CHICK, AND NOW LITTLE BINGER SWINGS FOR THE OTHER TEAM?
Jury is reviewing the drone footage in the courtroom on a laptop for as much time as they want while everyone (literally everyone) else leaves.4stringAg said:
Can someone say please what is going on now? Judge talking to jury? Both counsels in the room? What are they looking at?
They freaking crash Odysee every time they tell everyone to check it out...
Judge is letting the jury see video. Everyone leaving the room. They are not looking at the drone video.4stringAg said:
Can someone say please what is going on now? Judge talking to jury? Both counsels in the room? What are they looking at?
Jury asked to view videos. They are in the courtroom now using it as the jury room to view videos on the TV. From my lay point of view this is a cluster eff
Judge is just setting up the jury to view the video evidence (not the drone video).4stringAg said:
Can someone say please what is going on now? Judge talking to jury? Both counsels in the room? What are they looking at?
They have left now, jury is in the courtroom.
Thanks.tk111 said:Jury is reviewing the drone footage in the courtroom on a laptop for as much time as they want while everyone (literally everyone) else leaves.4stringAg said:
Can someone say please what is going on now? Judge talking to jury? Both counsels in the room? What are they looking at?
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Which drone footage is this one? The one the defense has issue with or the FBI one?
They did not request the drone video.
Judge has to know the jury is close to an acquittal. Why else would he be allowing them to look at the underlying argument for provocation which is heavily disputed?
Edit, guess they didn't ask to watch the drone video, but Chirafisi asked about #5
Edit, guess they didn't ask to watch the drone video, but Chirafisi asked about #5
The drone footage that showed (allegedly) the moment Rittenhouse raised his rifle at the Ziminski's/Rosenbaum. Very important video evidence in determining "provocation" outlined in the jury instructions.
Hell no! That's a Brady violation.pagerman @ work said:
So the argument from the state is that the presence of the evidence in other venues obviates the state's discovery requirements?
Is "they could have gotten it somewhere else" really an excuse for not producing the evidence you have?
The judge is delaying the inevitable. How can you not call a mistrial when defense received a subpar version of a key piece of evidence?
This is not the drone footage. They are looking at the footage of the encounter with Huber and Grosskreutz as I understand it.AggiePetro07 said:
Judge has to know the jury is close to an acquittal. Why else would he be allowing them to look at the underlying argument for provocation which is heavily disputed?
What the HELL is going on here? I've been away from the computer since I left for lunch, looks like the whole thing blew up?
Why has this case not been dismissed?
Why has this case not been dismissed?
Still don't understand WTH they didn't send the video into the jury room to let them watch it. This whole trial has been bass-ackwards.BusterAg said:Judge is just setting up the jury to view the video evidence (not the drone video).4stringAg said:
Can someone say please what is going on now? Judge talking to jury? Both counsels in the room? What are they looking at?
They have left now, jury is in the courtroom.
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2
That is the logical question and dismissed with prejudice.Tailgate88 said:
What the HELL is going on here? I've been away from the computer since I left for lunch, looks like the whole thing blew up?
Why has this case not been dismissed?
He can't seem to remember things he said five minutes earlier. The prosecution's filibuster strategy is genius.AggiePetro07 said:
Judge has to know the jury is close to an acquittal. Why else would he be allowing them to look at the underlying argument for provocation which is heavily disputed?
He talked about getting the prosecution and experts on the stand to discuss the nature of the video transfer. Forgot about that.
Said he would bring these issues back up if the jury asked for the video (basically kick the can down the road). Forgot about that.
sorry - haven't followed closely and only browse this thread for the most part. please clarify:
1. drone video was not part of discovery and unknown by the defense until last minute admission/ during trial. judge allowed it ..appears to be fed drone video that state probably had all along
2. compressed/ altered / lower res video emailed to defense during trial from ADA's personal gmail account
3. state claims during jury deliberation that they have an HD/ high res version that was never provided to the defense. rambling excuses claiming this is ok/ normal.
4. this video supposedly proves the teenager pointed a gun at someone earlier in the evening, justifying the rioters trying to kill Kyle and negating Kyle's self-defense claims?
1. drone video was not part of discovery and unknown by the defense until last minute admission/ during trial. judge allowed it ..appears to be fed drone video that state probably had all along
2. compressed/ altered / lower res video emailed to defense during trial from ADA's personal gmail account
3. state claims during jury deliberation that they have an HD/ high res version that was never provided to the defense. rambling excuses claiming this is ok/ normal.
4. this video supposedly proves the teenager pointed a gun at someone earlier in the evening, justifying the rioters trying to kill Kyle and negating Kyle's self-defense claims?
summary of some higher points so far
- after some deliberation jury can watch the videos in the court room on the court tv but everyone has to leave the room so they can freely discuss (that final video was judge telling them this as he was about to leave)
- Defense wants a mistrial with prejudice partly due to ADA not providing all evidence to defense. Fatlock admits that defense didn't have the drone video in same resolution. Proceeds to drone on for years in an attempt to make it seem like an honest mistake (whoopsie we don't know how technology works) but also no big deal and that defense had plenty of opportunity to both bring it up before and to get the video on their own
- someone found in the court video from monday that the ADA's computer showed it has handbrake installed as the desktop was flashed when he was pulling up one of the videos. this software is a video file conversion software that is probably best known for taking large video files and compressing them.
Because the judge is a coward and is worried about what the media is saying about him.Tailgate88 said:
What the HELL is going on here? I've been away from the computer since I left for lunch, looks like the whole thing blew up?
Why has this case not been dismissed?
I thought the judge was going to pull the trigger on a mistrial when he said that there was going to be a "reckoning."Tailgate88 said:
What the HELL is going on here? I've been away from the computer since I left for lunch, looks like the whole thing blew up?
Why has this case not been dismissed?
The prosecution did not provide the high res video of the drone footage to defense until after the evidence closed.
good to see you!!
Surprised that's the video the jury wants to see. Event 2 seems so much more open-and-shut self-defense vs Event 1.
Are there ANY competent legal minds in Kenosha? The judge is Mr. Magoo, the prosecutors are corrupt and the defense is incompetent.
W. T. F.
W. T. F.
Had to run to the grocery store, out of food. The Hubs was getting pissed.BusterAg said:I think maybe we lost her to Rekeita? People smarter about the law there. Would make sense that she start commenting there, possibly.agcrock2005 said:
The lack of AggieHawg posts lately makes me think she's very pissed?
EDIT: I just scroll through looking for her posts. Lol.
I don't really blame her. This is becoming a circus.
GeorgiAg said:
The judge is delaying the inevitable. How can you not call a mistrial when defense received a subpar version of a key piece of evidence?
He made a weird comment that made it sound like he was going to declare a mistrial after the jury returned a verdict. Is that even possible?
wondering if there are holdouts wanting to charge negligence for shots at jump kick man
I believe its the video where the state is claiming provocation.mkorzo said:
Surprised that's the video the jury wants to see. Event 2 seems so much more open-and-shut self-defense vs Event 1.
The judge is all hat no cattleGeorgiAg said:I thought the judge was going to pull the trigger on a mistrial when he said that there was going to be a "reckoning."Tailgate88 said:
What the HELL is going on here? I've been away from the computer since I left for lunch, looks like the whole thing blew up?
Why has this case not been dismissed?
The prosecution did not provide the high res video of the drone footage to defense until after the evidence closed.
Yes.OldArmyBrent said:GeorgiAg said:
The judge is delaying the inevitable. How can you not call a mistrial when defense received a subpar version of a key piece of evidence?
He made a weird comment that made it sound like he was going to declare a mistrial after the jury returned a verdict. Is that even possible?
Kind of annoyed at these guys talking about their viewer count.
How about the group of you figure out how to get some of your outstanding talking points to the defense counsel during this intermission?
How about the group of you figure out how to get some of your outstanding talking points to the defense counsel during this intermission?
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