Consolidated Fall of Kabul Update Thread

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annie88 said:

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What a condescending joke. Every. Day. Is. A. Day. For. Politics. With. This. admin.
That lying hypocritical ****. To try to pull this **** now? This is a perfect day for these pieces of **** to resign.


Oh but they won't do that because their ilk is so much above us Neanderthals. Condescending is their credo or should be.
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So are our nato allies keeping troops on the ground but suspending all other operations? Or have we been abandoned as well?
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Ag In Ok said:

So are our nato allies keeping troops on the ground but suspending all other operations? Or have we been abandoned as well?

Um there is no Nato, with no countries. Just us and Brits left it looks like.
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will25u said:

I have calmed down from earlier, but damn Biden/administration is a joke.


How many of the Taliban in Kabul have lost, or had injured, family members to the Afghan army and the NATO allies in the last 20 years? You think you can trust them to provide security for the people responsible for their losses? We have fought and tried to kill them for all that time, and now you think they are going to set all that aside for optics? Of course, Biden painted himself into a corner, so he has no other option aside from initiating an offensive to control the airport or take back our main base. He doesn't have the stones for that!
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Ag In Ok said:

So are our nato allies keeping troops on the ground but suspending all other operations? Or have we been abandoned as well?


Uh, pretty sure we abandoned our NATO and allies when Joe decided not to coordinate our plans to pull out with them.
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will25u said:

I have calmed down from earlier, but damn Biden/administration is a joke.




"Are you stupid"

"Yes, I am."
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Jesse Kelly is going on a fantastic rant on tucker
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Right before Biden held the press conference today.

Did he say anything like " may lightning strike me down if I lie" ?
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And Tim Mother ****ing Kennedy!

I hope that dude makes it out, we need people like that to move this nation forward.
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Sea Speed said:

Jesse Kelly is going on a fantastic rant on tucker
Yes, I'm not sure who he is but that was pretty epic.
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Why not broadcast a message once you j we there was a terrier threat, that to enter the gate, you must approach in your underwear?
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YouBet said:

Sea Speed said:

Jesse Kelly is going on a fantastic rant on tucker
Yes, I'm not sure who he is but that was pretty epic.


You will have to scroll back in the video a bit.
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Catag94 said:

Why not broadcast a message once you j we there was a terrier threat, that to enter the gate, you must approach in your underwear?
I don't think that would go over well with the womenfolk in a Muslim country.

The propaganda fallout from something like that would be catastrophic and probably lead to more attacks from zealots.

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buzzardb267 said:

will25u said:

I have calmed down from earlier, but damn Biden/administration is a joke.


How many of the Taliban in Kabul have lost, or had injured, family members to the Afghan army and the NATO allies in the last 20 years? You think you can trust them to provide security for the people responsible for their losses? We have fought and tried to kill them for all that time, and now you think they are going to set all that aside for optics? Of course, Biden painted himself into a corner, so he has no other option aside from initiating an offensive to control the airport or take back our main base. He doesn't have the stones for that!
You are absolutely right. And then imagine that we gave the Taliban a list of their own fellow Afghans who were helping us to hunt and kill them for two decades.... in order that they might help these people flee to us for safety?

I am convinced that no one in the upper reaches of our establishment has ever been in a fist fight or lived in an envrionment where loyalty mattered.
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TChaney said:



Taliban just letting anybody walk up. You can hear the soldier say "****ing Taliban, don't shoot, but keep your bomb straps on, hey you get get the **** out of here". Something like that.
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TChaney said:

Catag94 said:

Why not broadcast a message once you knew there was a terrorist threat, that to enter the gate, you must approach in your underwear?
I don't think that would go over well with the womenfolk in a Muslim country.

The propaganda fallout from something like that would be catastrophic and probably lead to more attacks from zealots.

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I understand, but it would keep the chaos back and speed things up.
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Location of bomb sites.
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TChaney said:





Location of bomb sites.

Entry points, testing the perimeter..
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YouBet said:

Sea Speed said:

Jesse Kelly is going on a fantastic rant on tucker
Yes, I'm not sure who he is but that was pretty epic.


I've just seen his tweets posted here occasionally but yea, his anger was absolutely legitimate and not fake like you see with so many politicians
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Seabreeze said:

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Taliban just letting anybody walk up. You can hear the soldier say "****ing Taliban, don't shoot, but keep your bomb straps on, hey you get get the **** out of here". Something like that.
ISIS-K walks right through the Taliban checkpoints where they can get to a concentrated group of Americans.

And Joe Biden, the Obama idiots in the White House, and the Democrat Party in general still believe they can be trusted?

We've got 13 reasons why they can't be relied upon on any level. Those should be enough to end this relationship right now.

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The real President Trump just gave his response to today's debacle on Hannity.

Would be nice if Democrats hadn't cheated and we could all not be talking about 13 deaths today.
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He is on Hannity right now
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Sea Speed said:

He is on Hannity right now
Refreshing to hear the real President speak coherently without having trouble breathing.
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YouBet said:

I'm not sure who it was but Cavuto was interviewing a congressman earlier today and he shared that he was briefed yesterday that retaking Bagram was on a list of contingencies if the worst happened, so that would seem to directly dispute with Biden's claim in his press conference that the miliary recommended to abandon it.

He also shared that several Democrats tried in vain to get ahold of Biden last night to discuss this disaster. Doesn't sound like they got a hold of him.


Retaking? Why the heck did they abandon in the forst
Place? Wasn't there significant military leaders pushing back against using Kabul vs a secure bagram???
Nobody cares. Work Harder
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BlueSmoke said:

YouBet said:

I'm not sure who it was but Cavuto was interviewing a congressman earlier today and he shared that he was briefed yesterday that retaking Bagram was on a list of contingencies if the worst happened, so that would seem to directly dispute with Biden's claim in his press conference that the miliary recommended to abandon it.

He also shared that several Democrats tried in vain to get ahold of Biden last night to discuss this disaster. Doesn't sound like they got a hold of him.


Retaking? Why the heck did they abandon in the forst
Place? Wasn't there significant military leaders pushing back against using Kabul vs a secure bagram???
It is starting to look like there were in fact NOT military leaders pushing back.
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Truth is coming out that the military had contingencies identified. If they truly did. Was bagram the emergency? We're both the Iwo Jima and Reagan in place as a contingency? What else was on the table that apparently got nixed by this administration?
Can't be trumps fault if you change the deal and nixed the military planners.
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BlueSmoke said:

YouBet said:

I'm not sure who it was but Cavuto was interviewing a congressman earlier today and he shared that he was briefed yesterday that retaking Bagram was on a list of contingencies if the worst happened, so that would seem to directly dispute with Biden's claim in his press conference that the miliary recommended to abandon it.

He also shared that several Democrats tried in vain to get ahold of Biden last night to discuss this disaster. Doesn't sound like they got a hold of him.


Retaking? Why the heck did they abandon in the forst
Place? Wasn't there significant military leaders pushing back against using Kabul vs a secure bagram???
We have video now showing Milley saying we didn't need to keep it.
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YouBet said:

BlueSmoke said:

YouBet said:

I'm not sure who it was but Cavuto was interviewing a congressman earlier today and he shared that he was briefed yesterday that retaking Bagram was on a list of contingencies if the worst happened, so that would seem to directly dispute with Biden's claim in his press conference that the miliary recommended to abandon it.

He also shared that several Democrats tried in vain to get ahold of Biden last night to discuss this disaster. Doesn't sound like they got a hold of him.


Retaking? Why the heck did they abandon in the forst
Place? Wasn't there significant military leaders pushing back against using Kabul vs a secure bagram???
We have video now showing Milley saying we didn't need to keep it.


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Quick follow up general, did the way we left bagram undermine the Afghan government in light of the speed the taliban was taking provinces around Kabul?
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Martin Q. Blank said:

Costco


Charged phone
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