Consolidated Fall of Kabul Update Thread

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titan said:

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DirtyMikesBoys said:

I don't think it's unreasonable at this juncture to say it's a possibility we see a caravan of troops and thousands of civilians driving/walking to Pakistan. Sounds preposterous, but they're an ordinance on the airstrip or rocket in the side of a C17 away from fighting out and abandoning that airport. Biden has left them in a position that is near unfathomable to understand. How is it possible this many bad decisions were made in succession?
100 miles through incredibly dangerous mountainous ambush-prone indian country? I'm thinking a retake of Bagram happens before that, but this has been such a cluster that you may be right...
How far is it to Massoud held territory? That's another option.
75 miles. But the Taliban controls the roads to get there.
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Have to consider supplies to survive the trip - water would be primary of course. Airdrop supplies? The Luftwaffe at Stalingrad tried to air supply the trapped Wehrmacht - that didn't work at all.
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chickencoupe16 said:

Anything ever come of the rumours that he was bending the knee to the Taliban?
Those aren't rumors. We are begging them to let our people and soldiers out.
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Only way out i can see is through the air with heavy CAS with a light ROE. Let the pilots and ground controllers call all their shots, no second guessing.
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We will get the guys out. The Taliban will be paid and we will get out. The biggest thing is can the Taliban control ISIS long enough to get us out before they go wild on them.
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Whirligigs said:

Have to consider supplies to survive the trip - water would be primary of course. Airdrop supplies? The Luftwaffe at Stalingrad tried to air supply the trapped Wehrmacht - that didn't work at all.
Ah, but our ability to control airspace there may be better than the Luftwaffe's was so far behind Russian lines at the time. That is, if we have the will to even want to help such migration-escapes overland.
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titan
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That fits with the possibility there was a safe house left behind attempting to do some damage control. But it may have been compromised!
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titan said:

Whirligigs said:

Have to consider supplies to survive the trip - water would be primary of course. Airdrop supplies? The Luftwaffe at Stalingrad tried to air supply the trapped Wehrmacht - that didn't work at all.
Ah, but our ability to control airspace there may be better than the Luftwaffe's was so far behind Russian lines at the time. That is, if we have the will to even want to help such migration-escapes overland.


Oh sure, it was just an example from history that popped in my head.
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Biden upcoming press conference... maybe.

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will25u said:





If only the Generals had a sense of duty as well.
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Good, just need a ships captain to let loose the dogs of war to provide cover.
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barnyard1996 said:

"make sure they know what we expect them to do to protect us."

What in the name of all that is holy?
Wasn't even strongly worded.

Pathetic incompetent irresponsible President Biden and his administration.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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will25u said:



Godspeed to those putting themselves in harm's way to do the right thing
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FriscoKid said:

chickencoupe16 said:

Anything ever come of the rumours that he was bending the knee to the Taliban?
Those aren't rumors. We are begging them to let our people and soldiers out.
i think he meant if Massoud Jr. was bending the knee to the Taliban.
Everybody knows that the Taliban squeezed Biden's balls to make him kneel.

[EDIT] Except the dolts at OccupyDemocrats
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Apparently the idea of ISIS vs Taliban vs US isn't exactly correct. No they don't like each other, but they have a common enemy and don't like us more than they don't like each other. Tolly had 6 layers of checkpoints to get where those bombs went off. Tough to believe they're able to hold back thousands of civilians desperately trying to sneak into that airport which would save their lives, but someone with a bomb wrapped around his waste strolled up there no problem.

I've read that culturally, they'll cooperate to the extent it hurts the infidels then get back to fighting each other when the infidels are gone.

Could be wrong, but that makes sense to me.
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Lol you should respond and say he did eliminate ISIS, but this is a strong new variant. The Kappa variant.
TChaney
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FYI - it's odd to me. There is a video circulating being used as propaganda of a soldier pushing a woman off of the wall into the sewer moat at the airport.

She obviously tried to make it past a secured area.

This is the footage prior to her being pushed off.



Propaganda footage



The reason I find it odd - A group that supports women being oppressed seems to be up in arms over something simple like this.
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Cloward Pliven. They learned it from the Democrats
Seven and three are ten, not only now, but forever. There has never been a time when seven and three were not ten, nor will there ever be a time when they are not ten. Therefore, I have said that the truth of number is incorruptible and common to all who think. — St. Augustine
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deddog said:

FriscoKid said:

chickencoupe16 said:

Anything ever come of the rumours that he was bending the knee to the Taliban?
Those aren't rumors. We are begging them to let our people and soldiers out.
i think he meant if Massoud Jr. was bending the knee to the Taliban.
Everybody knows that the Taliban squeezed Biden's balls to make him kneel.

[EDIT] Except the dolts at OccupyDemocrats
I wondered at that time if Massoud, the son, was talking to the Taliban to fend them off while he armed up and got new recruits in and formed a battle plan. Maybe he didn't exactly have the assurances of Russian support he wanted yet, at that time?
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deddog said:

FriscoKid said:

chickencoupe16 said:

Anything ever come of the rumours that he was bending the knee to the Taliban?
Those aren't rumors. We are begging them to let our people and soldiers out.
i think he meant if Massoud Jr. was bending the knee to the Taliban.
Everybody knows that the Taliban squeezed Biden's balls to make him kneel.

[EDIT] Except the dolts at OccupyDemocrats
This (Massoud Jr.), except I don't know how much work was needed to get Biden to kneel.
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If the Taliban wanted to kill Americans they could open up with our own weapons they have and over run the Airport in a few hours. They want us to leave and for them to have assurances that once they start murdering everybody they can, that we won't do anything.

They don't want the US to start hitting targets all over the country and destroying their war stockpile.
TChaney
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Biden live
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quit telling us the previous "victories" and tell us what you are going to do to respond.....
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What the **** is ISIS-K? A new variant?
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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"We will hunt you down and make you pay."

As we surrender. So...we're going back in?
aTm '99
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A sternly written tweet....
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....he is reading about everything he did today....why does he have to read what he did today....is that not a sign of a problem...??
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TChaney said:



Things moving fast, not sure if repost.
President Biden's administration is unqualified the most incompetent amoral unethical in history.

He should resign in disgrace, be impeached or court martialed.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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I'm now convinced the attack was the Taliban.

Biden just promised retaliatory strikes on ISIS leaders & facilities. Guess who benefits the most from that... Taliban. This plot is so easy to see you have to be an idiot to believe anything else.
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Biden: "they gave me a list of people to call on"
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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BenFiasco14 said:

What the **** is ISIS-K? A new variant?


Been around for several years. Isis affiliate in Afghanistan.
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Will someone please ask a real question?
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