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From same link.

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These tests looked for evidence of the tabulations system ability to connect to the internet and if the tabulators and/or system was transmitting information outside the closed air gapped system within the county tabulation center or while being delivered, returned, or used at a vote center.

• SLI reviewed system registry, system files, installed programs, download history, audit logs, USB/Ethernet history logs. NO ISSUES
• Pro V&V ran server commands to test for connectivity. NO ISSUES
• Both firms physically inspected and traced the wiring of the air-gapped system between the server, tabulators, adjudication stations, and Election Management System workstations. NO ISSUES

Results:
Pro V&V and SLI Compliance found no evidence of internet connectivity.

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Dumb question but how did they do that without the routers and the root code er, passwords??

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simple ...

provide me the documented lists of tests you performed in each scenario and the result of the test.

I do like this part

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"Both firms physically inspected and traced the wiring of the air-gapped system between the server, tabulators, adjudication stations, and Election Management System workstations. "

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So, what good does that even mean "air-gapping" .... if there is a physical connection between all of those devices? If all devices are connected physically and one of them is connected externally, then they are essentially ALL exposed.

Still calling BS unless you can provide proof of what you did/how?

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We have discovered the actual fraud and subversion in the Antrim County election. Did it occur statewide?

May 10 docs: https://t.co/IYzEsT5E7d pic.twitter.com/JGxrAO6W4W

— Matthew S. DePerno, Esq. (@mdeperno) May 10, 2021

DePerno back in court today in Antrim County.

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Tweet already removed. Can't have the truth getting out there after all.

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That link is broken but tweet still up...for now.

We have discovered the actual fraud and subversion in the Antrim County election. Did it occur statewide?

May 10 docs: https://t.co/IYzEsT5E7d pic.twitter.com/JGxrAO6W4W

— Matthew S. DePerno, Esq. (@mdeperno) May 10, 2021

New pleading by DePerno is Here

Says another expert by the name of Jeffrey Lenberg saying 9 of 16 precincts showed a pattern of flipping votes thusly:

Jorgenson to Trump to Biden to undervote.

Why this matters is complicated so read the pleading.

ETA: Expert's report is Here

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Maricopa County Elections Witness Testifies that Dominion Ran Entire Election - County Officials and Observers NEVER HAD Access or Passwords! (Video) https://t.co/UVApsJpNxi via @gatewaypundit

— Dave Schreiber (@DaveSchreiber3) May 10, 2021

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The Maricopa officials are claiming they have sole authority to select the auditors, yet they ceded control of the election process to Dominion and did not have the passwords needed.

I would argue they already ceded control of the election process illegally failing their responsibilities therefore should have no say in who the legislators choose to perform th audit.

I am no lawyer

From the expert's report, linked above.

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Discovery of Subversion of the Antrim County EMS/RTR A specific test was designed to determine how the Antrim County EMS/RTR along with the tabulator would handle the swap of Biden votes with the Natural Law Party (Straight Ticket Vote from the Contest Above on the ballot). The rationale for making this test was the fact that Halderman indicated that the shift of votes that occurred would have changed the index of the candidate selection to cross the boundary from the Presidential contest to the Straight Party Ticket contest.

This shifting across the boundary of a contest should have created a critical error condition during the processing of votes, however, in the case of Antrim County election it did not.

The test scenario is as follows:

Ballot Style: Helena Township, Precinct 1 (1124)

DVD File Name: 1120_8_8_0_DETAIL.DVD

internalMachineID for Biden: 3016

internalMachineID for Natural Law Party: 3015

Votes Cast on Test Ballots (See Appendix A):

Biden: 2 Trump: 4 Jorgenson: 1

Both the EMS/RTR and the ICP tabulator used exactly the same DVD file listed above. The test scenario implemented a swap between the internalMachineID fields of Biden and the Natural Law Party in the VIF_BALLOT_INSTANCE.DVD file to attempt to cause Biden's votes to be swapped with the Straight Party/Natural Law Party. The expected outcome was that Biden's votes would be assigned to the Natural Law Party (Straight Party Vote) and the result would be Biden's votes being tallied for the Natural Law Party Presidential Candidate Rocky De La Fuente.

The test revealed the following:

The ICP reported a critical error and does not finish processing the vote file, does not print a paper tape, writes the error to the log file, and forces a mandatory shutdown of the tabulator

The EMS/RTR loads the same file with no errors and takes all of the Biden votes and treats them as undervotes

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The displayed results indicated that Biden is missing his votes and they are reported as blank ballots and undervotes for that contest (See Figure 5). One of two things should have happened. Either Biden's votes should have been assigned to the Straight Party/Natural Law (internalMachineID = 3015) in which case Bidens vote for President would have been assigned to De La Fuente and note that this did not occur. The other possibility is that the software was able to check the range for internalMachineID range for the contest in which case it would not have found the reference for the Biden vote choice and it should have created an error very similar to what the ICP output. This would be a critical error that should have stopped the application from further processing the compact flash card. Because the Biden vote choice must exist and it did not exist, the application should have stopped loading the results with an error message as to the fact that the results were corrupted. However, no errors were indicated of any kind by the EMS/RTR. The Biden votes just became blank votes (no choice) when there clearly is a choice on the ballot. In summary, either the shifted votes should have gone to De La Fuente (via Straight Party Natural Law Party) or the application should have created a critical error that would have kept the votes from being tallied and reported.

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The conclusion of this test indicates EMS/RTR technical behavior consistent with a technical subversion. Further in-depth analysis of source code would be required to gain definitive clarity on the specific nature of the subversion. This would include analysis of the error handling routines, code traces, static and dynamic code analysis.

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Going for the source code.

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Going for the source code.

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This is the answer. Don't want to give me the access because I could see the data/SSN? Fine, give me the source and (1) I can prove you were full of **** about SSN/data, and (2) I can map out every command, access, and use to see what "is" possible.

but we all know they will fight this from a protection of proprietary information perspective.

BOMBSHELL update on #AmericasAudit in Maricopa County. Be sure to watch the entire report. We know you'll be as mad as we are! AZGOP Chairwoman @kelliwardaz exposes the #BigLie as we fight for Arizona and #ElectionIntegrity pic.twitter.com/sS61FV6xiV

— Arizona Republican Party (@AZGOP) May 10, 2021

More from Jan Bryant.

Here

MI hearing about to start.

aggiehawg said:

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More from Jan Bryant.

Here

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I know somethings that need to be rebooted.

Hope these audits, especially Maricopa continue to completion.

aggiehawg said:

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MI hearing about to start.

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Interesting to see even these lawyers can't figure out how to mute their own mics in a formal proceeding. Or they are letting the noise come through to distract from DePerno. There was no bleed over noise when Wending was talking.

IANAL, but seems like the defense is whipping Deperno.

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MI hearing about to start.

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Interesting to see even these lawyers can't figure out how to mute their own mics in a formal proceeding. Or they are letting the noise come through to distract from DePerno. There was no bleed over noise when Wending was talking.

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And now the state starts talking and magically all the background noise stops. And I love this "certification" process argument. Because Dominion won't certify any access to the machines by people they don't already know will cover for them, we can't let anybody else look at them? Sounds like Dominion wants to make sure nobody gets a look inside, and will make sure to reload their own version of the software after it happens if anybody wants to.

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IANAL, but seems like the defense is whipping Deperno.

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I find his argument that the defense ran out the clock on discovery by obstructing his requests to be compelling. If they didn't give him access to alot of the info he requested until the very end of the period, they can't then say that his derivative requests from that info are coming in too late.

Further the townships argument that Dominion is a missing necessary party, they can simply third party them into the case.

Dominion threatening to disable their machines if a court orders them produced is BS.

Judge: discovery is closed. Not sounding good here.

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Further the townships argument that Dominion is a missing necessary party, they can simply third party them into the case.

Dominion threatening to disable their machines if a court orders them produced is BS.

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I find it once again interesting to see a local government election entity saying they can't control their own elections equipment without permission from Dominion. Basically admitting that they don't run their own elections.

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Judge: discovery is closed. Not sounding good here.

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Yeah, this is over for additional forensics.

Subpoenas are squashed. Dang it!

will25u said:

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IANAL, but seems like the defense is whipping Deperno.

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I would hope that any competent lawyer can come up with a defense MONTHS before the original accusation.

Defendants know where the issues happened. They therefore put blocks and slow downs in place so that only parts of the crimes are exposed, but can't be verified without the full picture. Then go to court and torpedo these exposed pieces, knowing that they can be tied up in legislation to where the real crimes don't come out.

All of these covid measures make it hard for the judge to have all of the filings available in the court's file. He can't find them in his electronic file.

Just a messed up system.

aggiehawg said:

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All of these covid measures make it hard for the judge to have all of the filings available in the court's file. He can't find them in his electronic file.

Just a messed up system.

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I have worked in Michigan before. I wouldn't be AT ALL surprised to find there is somebody in the court IT team torpedoing the filings by the plaintiff. There are alot of different "machines" in Michigan, and none of them like it when outsiders come in and try to rock the boat.

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All of these covid measures make it hard for the judge to have all of the filings available in the court's file. He can't find them in his electronic file.

Just a messed up system.

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I have worked in Michigan before. I wouldn't be AT ALL surprised to find there is somebody in the court IT team torpedoing the filings by the plaintiff. There are alot of different "machines" in Michigan, and none of them like it when outsiders come in and try to rock the boat.

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Thanks for the insight. Bad news but thanks.

txags92 said:

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All of these covid measures make it hard for the judge to have all of the filings available in the court's file. He can't find them in his electronic file.

Just a messed up system.

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I have worked in Michigan before. I wouldn't be AT ALL surprised to find there is somebody in the court IT team torpedoing the filings by the plaintiff. There are alot of different "machines" in Michigan, and none of them like it when outsiders come in and try to rock the boat.

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Hard to battle an enemy with no ethical boundaries.

IANAL(still). Does not sound good for Plaintiffs.

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IANAL, but seems like the defense is whipping Deperno.

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I would hope that any competent lawyer can come up with a defense MONTHS before the original accusation.

Defendants know where the issues happened. They therefore put blocks and slow downs in place so that only parts of the crimes are exposed, but can't be verified without the full picture. Then go to court and torpedo these exposed pieces, knowing that they can be tied up in legislation to where the real crimes don't come out.

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Sounds like the Michigan legislature needs to open a new voter fraud probe.

Glad to see some fire from DePerno.

Deperno calls out the defense on the fact that was uncertified MicroSoft software on Dominion machines. That presence alone should have caused them to be decertified under EAC guidelines.

I thought this hearing was not supposed to run this long. Judge needs to set some time limits on the attorneys.

But I think he has already made up his mind to dismiss, hope I'm wrong.

He takes it under advisement and will deliver his decision next week.

Wait! Defense has noticed depositions for this week? I thought discovery was closed??

aggiehawg said:

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Wait! Defense has noticed depositions for this week? I thought discovery was closed??

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Will you explain for the dummies please?

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Wait! Defense has noticed depositions for this week? I thought discovery was closed??

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Will you explain for the dummies please?

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The first part of this hearing was about Plaintiff's subpoena of non-party witnesses. Defense filed a motion to quash on the basis that the time for discovery as set by the court had expired. Judge agreed and quashed those subpoenas.

As to parties to the case, depositions do not require subpoenas and can be done by notice only. Send a notice as to date and time to the party's attorney and all other attorneys of record as well as filing with the court.

So I was surprised that the judge was allowing party depositions but not allowing non-party depositions. Guess the closing of discovery means something else in Michigan.

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aggiehawg said:

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Wait! Defense has noticed depositions for this week? I thought discovery was closed??

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Will you explain for the dummies please?

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The first part of this hearing was about Plaintiff's subpoena of non-party witnesses. Defense filed a motion to quash on the basis that the time for discovery as set by the court had expired. Judge agreed and quashed those subpoenas.

As to parties to the case, depositions do not require subpoenas and can be done by notice only. Send a notice as to date and time to the party's attorney and all other attorneys of record as well as filing with the court.

So I was surprised that the judge was allowing party depositions but not allowing non-party depositions. Guess the closing of discovery means something else in Michigan.

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Nm...you work too hard to waste time explaining stuff to me. Thanks for all your work!

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agcrock2005 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Wait! Defense has noticed depositions for this week? I thought discovery was closed??

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Will you explain for the dummies please?

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The first part of this hearing was about Plaintiff's subpoena of non-party witnesses. Defense filed a motion to quash on the basis that the time for discovery as set by the court had expired. Judge agreed and quashed those subpoenas.

As to parties to the case, depositions do not require subpoenas and can be done by notice only. Send a notice as to date and time to the party's attorney and all other attorneys of record as well as filing with the court.

So I was surprised that the judge was allowing party depositions but not allowing non-party depositions. Guess the closing of discovery means something else in Michigan.

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Nm...you work too hard to waste time explaining stuff to me. Thanks for all your work!

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Additionally, pretrial is not closing until September 1st and then trial scheduled for October 1st assuming the case isn't dismissed. So there is still plenty of time left. Just an odd decision in my view.