*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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Made $100 bet with co-worker. He said Biden over 310 ECs. I took the under.
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oh no
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doesn't count. Stolen election.
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https://i.imgur.com/obCAZkZ.jpg
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skrol said:


Rookies can't post pictures...here you go.

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After November's general election, Democrat Kristi St. Laurent requested a recount of the Windham State Representative race. The November 12 hand recount produced a 300-vote increase for all 4 Republican candidates and a 99-vote decrease for her. The recount didn't change the outcome, but no one could explain the huge 6% increase in Republican votes or the 2% decrease in St. Laurent's.
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On November 19th, the Attorney General received a letter from Windham town counsel Bernard Campbell requesting an investigation into the machine count error. The AG never replied to that request.

At its November 23rd meeting, the Ballot Law Commission "voted unanimously to request the Attorney General to look into the functioning of the voting machines on election day, and to join in the request of the town for a general review and investigation of the circumstances involved."
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During a December 10th conference call with Secretary of State Gardner, he stated that he didn't know what happened, that NH didn't use Dominion machines, and expressed his support for an investigation into the machine count error.
That's a lie, BTW. Dominion acquired the old company that provided the machines and system to NH is many locations. Which just shows how out of touch local authorities are. Don't even know the ownership has changed hands.

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During the most recent conference call on February 5th, associate AG Ann Edwards and Election Law chief Nicholas Chong Yen reiterated the department's refusal to test the voting machines or count the ballots. They also refused to consider obtaining a court order to alleviate their concerns about statutory authority under RSA 7:6(c).

This isn't a partisan issue; it's a matter of election integrity. The town, the Secretary of State, the Democrat candidate, the Ballot Law Commission, a concerned citizen, and a Republican State Senator asked the NH Department of Justice to investigate the largest machine count error in NH history. The department refused.
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This is getting so damn old. Refusing to even open an investigation.

Meanwhile, in Maricopa County, Arizona:

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A local group of Pheonix IT specialists decided to observe the Pro V&V team performing their audit in Maricopa County. Surveilance was available per public access to surveillance cameras at the location the audit was being performed. The observers were able to review the activities going on inside the auditee's location. Many actions caused the observers concern.
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One observer, Ryan Hartwig, signed an affidavit where he explained that he was concerned about the audit being performed because the nest cams (cameras set up to film the work being performed) in the tabulation center were not working properly and the auditors there often looked at the cameras, used their phones in the facilities, and left the door to the facility open, which indicates a lack of knowledge of, or contempt for, proper access controls. (Access controls are those controls that prevent unwelcomed access to a facility or network. Ensuring doors are locked, ensuring proper access to a facility through passwords or keys, ensuring property access to machines and networks through the use of adequate passwords, prevention of intrusion through the Internet, etc. would be types of access controls.)
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He observed, as noted in his affidavit below:
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I left my home and drove to the MCTEC, getting there around 10:20pm. I opened an app on my android phone named Wifi Analyzer (made by VRem Software Development) and saw that there was a network with the name of MCPublic that was an open network. When Aaron got there and ran a scan, he told me he saw an Apple TV, Xbox, and a Wii on the public county network. Where we were at, there weren't that many other buildings nearby. Aaron also scanned and said he saw a 3Com device on the network, which he told me is vulnerable to hacking.

At one point, Aaron told me he saw one of the networks change names to "f$$kyou" [see picture below]. I looked over at his laptop and saw the WiFi name "f$$kyou", and I took a picture of his laptop showing that. I then used The WiFi Analyzer on my phone and also saw the same network "f$$kyou" on my phone as well. I took a screenshot of that on my own phone. The Wifi Analyzer shows distances and I looked on my phone and saw that it said that the MCPublic network was at approximately 195.3m and the "****you" network was at approximately 193.3m from my position.

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Multiple affidavits, pictures, and a lot of technical jargon that I frankly don't understand so if any of computer geeks have some time to kill, I'd appreciate some feedback on what all of that means. TIA.
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Anything in particular?

Some of the key items are:
  • They have consumer based WIFI routers, a lot of which have know vulnerabilities.
  • They have old/out-dated hardware that no longer has firmware or software updates. So likely to have exploits documented on the internet to allow you to compromise them
  • "lack of information on 'air-gapped' networks" basically saying these machines should be isolated on a network not connected to anything else. the only way to get data is via removable storage media (USB thumbdrive)
  • Evidence of printers on the networks. Entry point for attackers to the wireless network
  • the distance of ****you appears to be the same as where other county equipment is suggesting county IT set it up
  • gaming systems and tvs on an election network.....well, speaks for itself.

And they were careful to state they didnt attempt to hack anything without permission.
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Go Back To Manual Voting. Get Rid of Electrronic.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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Thanks for the insight.

So basically FUBARed from a security standpoint. Those are older machines from when Diebold rebranded as Premier Voting Systems, acquired by ES&S and the Holder's DOJ ordered that portion (30%) of ES&S business to be divested directly to Dominion in 2010.

So what exactly is the point of using electronic voting systems at all if the systems are soooo outdated??
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aggiehawg said:

Thanks for the insight.

So basically FUBARed from a security standpoint. Those are older machines from when Diebold rebranded as Premier Voting Systems, acquired by ES&S and the Holder's DOJ ordered that portion (30%) of ES&S business to be divested directly to Dominion in 2010.

So what exactly is the point of using electronic voting systems at all if the systems are soooo outdated??
Sadly, from what you see across the country, this is standard practice. I wouldn't use some of those devices for my home guest network. There is no reason, in my opinion, a voting machine or tabulation machine should be on a wireless network, let alone one that is connected to the internet.

I am betting this is how the guys on Rudy's team were watching voting traffic. Compromise the device, get on the network, and fire up a traffic analyzer.
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txags92 said:

skrol said:


Rookies can't post pictures...here you go.


. Sources??
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titan said:


Go Back To Manual Voting. Get Rid of Electrronic.
Then they'd just do like they did in Detroit and Atlanta and disallow R poll workers and make their guy win.
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I missed this when it happened back in December. Have not read the complaint yet so I cannot yet ascertain its chances as being certified as a viable class action suit. But thought I'd go ahead and post the links for anyone interested. Plaintiffs are suing Dominion, Facebook, Inc. Zuckerberg, his wife, and governors and Sec of States in their individual capacities. (Not sure about that either.)

Dominion's answer to the complaint is due today.



Follow the case Here

For other information: look Here
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Back to New Hampshire. Here is a study released in 2006 about the lack of security on the Diebold system (now Dominion) used in new Hampshire titled Security Analysis of the Diebold AccuVote-TS Voting Machine

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Main Findings The main findings of our study are:
1. Malicious software running on a single voting machine can steal votes with little risk of detection. The malicious software can modify all of the records, audit logs, and counters kept by the voting machine, so that even careful forensic examination of these records will find nothing amiss. We have constructed demonstration software that carries out this vote stealing attack.

2. Anyone who has physical access to a voting machine, or to a memory card that will later be inserted into a machine, can install said malicious software using a simple method that takes as little as one minute. In practice, poll workers and others often have unsupervised access to the machines.

3. AccuVote-TS machines are susceptible to voting machine virusescomputer viruses that can spread malicious software automatically and invisibly from machine to machine during normal pre- and postelection activity. We have constructed a demonstration virus that spreads in this way, installing our demonstration vote-stealing program on every machine it infects. Our demonstration virus spreads via the memory cards that poll workers use to transfer ballots and election results, so it propagates even if the machines are not networked.

4. While some of these problems can be eliminated by improving Diebold's software, others cannot be remedied without replacing the machines' hardware. Changes to election procedures would also be required to ensure security


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Back to Georgia. Remember that Fulton County Elections Director Rick Barron? He of the "out of 113,000 ballots we adjudicated 106,000" fame?

He's not quite fired yet but looks to be on his way out.

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Rick Barron managed two of the most significant and scrutinized elections in Fulton County's history without major incident, weathering conspiracy theories spread by former president Donald Trump, lawsuits, death threats, and a pandemic. Oh, cry me a river.

But on Tuesday, the county's board of registration and elections voted 3-2 in favor of firing Barron, going against the wishes of the Fulton election director's staff, who in recent days signed onto a letter in support of their boss.

In their letter, the staff described overcoming a pandemic, death threats, hostile poll watchers, a coronavirus outbreak in the county's warehouse, and the death of a beloved employee to conduct a "fair and unbiased election."

"The person who is responsible for our success, the County's success amid all of this, is current Director Richard Barron who has shown his ability to guide, motivate, steer and maintain the course of integrity, honesty, and fairness," the staff wrote in their letter to the board.

Still, voting to fire Barron were Democratic appointee Vernetta Keith Nuridden and Republican appointees Mark Wingate and Dr. Kathleen Ruth. In contrast, Aaron Johnson and board chair Mary Carole Cooney, an appointee of Fulton County commission chair Robb Pitts, voted in support of Barron.

The election director's fate remains in a sort of limbo. Fulton County attorneys have advised the elections board that the county board of commissioners must approve their decision, but when it will be added to the commission's agenda, and whether they will reject, is still unclear.
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Then, in 2020, came a disastrous presidential primary election. Hundreds of poll workers quit, and dozens of volunteer polling places dropped out over fear of the coronavirus. Fulton's email system crashed, and people who requested mail-in ballots never received them. The lines at the polls were so long voters brought folding chairs, and at least one reported casting their ballot after 1 a.m. Barron called it the "single worst day" of his professional career.
Yet he still had a job after that??

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On January 11, a majority of the board voted to fire Barron, but the meeting was private, and so the decision was considered invalid.
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https://freebeacon.com/2020-election/michigan-removes-177000-voters-from-voter-rolls-after-legal-challenge/

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The Michigan secretary of state removed 177,000 inactive voters from the state's voter rolls after settling a legal challenge.

The state removed the names from the voter rolls in late January because the voters no longer live in the state or did not respond to the state's inquiries about their addresses, according to a Tuesday district court announcement. The state performed the post-election audit during a legal battle with the Honest Elections Project, an election watchdog.
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Daunt and the Honest Elections Project filed the lawsuit in February 2020, sparking a year-long litigation process. Benson sent ballot applications to every voter in the state in May, drawing the ire of then-president Donald Trump. Approximately 500,000 of those applications were returned to the state because the recipient died or had moved. Benson said the state would examine the returned ballots after the election because of a federal law preventing the changing of voter lists in the 90 days before an election.
They should have held out longer to get a sweet deal like Abrams group did in GA.
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Again, GA is a day late and a dollar short.

I still say the Governor, etc are doing this now so that they protect their votes in 2022.

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.....this will be deemed racist by Democrats.
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will25u said:

Again, GA is a day late and a dollar short.

I still say the Governor, etc are doing this now so that they protect their votes in 2022.


Let's wait and see what kind of "excuses" pass muster.
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txags92 said:

skrol said:

https://i.imgur.com/obCAZkZ.jpg
Rookies can't post pictures...here you go.

https://i.imgur.com/obCAZkZ.jpg
what site is this voting irregularities thing from id like to look at it deeper?

Anyone know if this is fairly accurate? If so that's one of the more comprehensive easy to see breakdowns but just curious its validity and how they arrived at these figures.
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I honestly don't know. I was helping the rook with the pic he was trying to post. I have seen it before, and I am thinking it might have been from one of the Georgia court cases by Lin Wood or Sydney or maybe one of the reports Navarro did for Trump.
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txags92 said:

I honestly don't know. I was helping the rook with the pic he was trying to post. I have seen it before, and I am thinking it might have been from one of the Georgia court cases by Lin Wood or Sydney or maybe one of the reports Navarro did for Trump.
It's from Navarro's reports. You can right click on the image and search google for it.
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aggiehawg said:

txags92 said:

I honestly don't know. I was helping the rook with the pic he was trying to post. I have seen it before, and I am thinking it might have been from one of the Georgia court cases by Lin Wood or Sydney or maybe one of the reports Navarro did for Trump.
It's from Navarro's reports. You can right click on the image and search google for it.
thank you. any idea where he came up with these figures and even they are even remotely accurate?

clearly we know there were issues but i was looking for a solid list of some of the irregularities in these 5 states...more people voted than what was registered to vote but there is so much out there didn't know where to start.
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Although some people find the website Gateway Pundit as not that reliable, when it comes to election stuff they have cited to other sources, have videos of presentations, interviews with experts, etc. Very in depth. Go there and start going back through the archives. One caveat: there has been a lot of censoring happening so youtube videos may have been taken down on the older posts but you can still get the general feeling from the description.

Look for posts about Jovan Pulitzer and his document authentication process. Guy does a very good job of breaking the tech down into layman's terms. You can also find links to Navarro's work and Patrick Byrne's takes there as well.

One other warning, if you haven't been following this as closely as I have, it is a huge amount of material to read and digest.

Happy hunting!
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Texas Aggies 12 said:

aggiehawg said:

txags92 said:

I honestly don't know. I was helping the rook with the pic he was trying to post. I have seen it before, and I am thinking it might have been from one of the Georgia court cases by Lin Wood or Sydney or maybe one of the reports Navarro did for Trump.
It's from Navarro's reports. You can right click on the image and search google for it.
thank you. any idea where he came up with these figures and even they are even remotely accurate?

clearly we know there were issues but i was looking for a solid list of some of the irregularities in these 5 states...more people voted than what was registered to vote but there is so much out there didn't know where to start.

That was based on old registration data. No state had more people vote than had registered to vote.
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PJYoung said:

Texas Aggies 12 said:

aggiehawg said:

txags92 said:

I honestly don't know. I was helping the rook with the pic he was trying to post. I have seen it before, and I am thinking it might have been from one of the Georgia court cases by Lin Wood or Sydney or maybe one of the reports Navarro did for Trump.
It's from Navarro's reports. You can right click on the image and search google for it.
thank you. any idea where he came up with these figures and even they are even remotely accurate?

clearly we know there were issues but i was looking for a solid list of some of the irregularities in these 5 states...more people voted than what was registered to vote but there is so much out there didn't know where to start.

That was based on old registration data. No state had more people vote than had registered to vote.


sources?
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Thomas' and Alito's dissent are in the last ten pages of this LINK
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aggiehawg said:

Thomas' and Alito's dissent are in the last ten pages of this LINK
Typical Roberts move. Delay scheduling their hearing of the lawsuit until after the inauguration...then declare it moot since the results were certified and the electoral college has voted. Anything to avoid angering his democrat handlers.
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txags92 said:

aggiehawg said:

Thomas' and Alito's dissent are in the last ten pages of this LINK
Typical Roberts move. Delay scheduling their hearing of the lawsuit until after the inauguration...then declare it moot since the results were certified and the electoral college has voted. Anything to avoid angering his democrat handlers.
In this setting "mootness" is just as small of a fig leaf as applying the equitable doctrine of laches. Legal coardice if not judicial malpractice. But, no, no, no! Roberts doesn't want the Court to even have the appearance of being "political" yet by this action they have become more politicized than ever. They have encouraged more extralegal and unconstitutional behavior in future elections, further eroding voters' trust in the integrity in our no longer free and fair elections.

Very sad day for our republic or what remains of it anyway.
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But hey, that has to mean the election wasn't stolen. /dangerous ignorant idiots
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aggiehawg said:

Thomas' and Alito's dissent are in the last ten pages of this LINK
Thanks for the direction.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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richardag said:

aggiehawg said:

Thomas' and Alito's dissent are in the last ten pages of this LINK
Thanks for the direction.
You are welcome. I was a little late to even find them because I wasn't expecting them to be released today. Normally, the majority and dissenting opinions are released the same day.
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Very sad day for our republic or what remains of it anyway.

Justice Thomas' concluding paragraph:

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One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us. I respectfully dissent.
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