Aggie09Derek said:

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If that name is right on that post...I may have just found the guys profile....and yikes

Dude looks insane himself and has multiple guns in his profile picture (no idea if I have the right guy...but could make sense).

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Gumby said:

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This story just keeps getting sadder. No one should have died over a protest. Dude should not have brought his AK47 to the protest to look tough. These protests are a recipe for tragic disasters like this.

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MsDoubleD81 said:

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Well, where is the link?

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chickencoupe16 said:

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tylercsbn9 said:

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chickencoupe16 said:

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Shot dead exercising his #1A & #2A

Shot dead because his dumbass pointed a gun at someone as a mob surrounded their car

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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That video was completely terrible. But it really looks like his gun is pointed down. At least, maybe not pointed directly up to the car window?

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Bingo Bango Bongo said:

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JCA1 said:

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If you think these things are tragic, then you need to speak up against these types of protests/riots. It's inevitable that things like this will continue to occur if mass groups of people-some of whom are armed-are allowed to block traffic in the middle of the night and harass any person who happens to drive down the wrong street. So, if you want less death, start with the "protesters".

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Agree 1000%. Allowing these people to take over the streets is going to continue to result in dangerous confrontation. Anyone in a car in these areas is at risk of finding themselves in a "wrong place, wrong time" situation that threatens their life. City leadership and these PD's need to find their balls and stop the street protests.

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Gumby said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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That video was completely terrible. But it really looks like his gun is pointed down. At least, maybe not pointed directly up to the car window?

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Whether his gun is pointed up, down or sideways, if a man with a gun runs up to your window in this situation it seems more than reasonable to fear for your life. What if the driver waited 5 seconds and Garrett decided to raise the gun and unload it on him? The driver very well may have barely escaped with his life.

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Gumby said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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That video was completely terrible. But it really looks like his gun is pointed down. At least, maybe not pointed directly up to the car window?

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Whether his gun is pointed up, down or sideways, if a man with a gun runs up to your window in this situation it seems more than reasonable to fear for your life. What if the driver waited 5 seconds and Garrett decided to raise the gun and unload it on him? The driver very well may have barely escaped with his life.

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AggieMD95 said:

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Bingo Bango Bongo said:

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JCA1 said:

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If you think these things are tragic, then you need to speak up against these types of protests/riots. It's inevitable that things like this will continue to occur if mass groups of people-some of whom are armed-are allowed to block traffic in the middle of the night and harass any person who happens to drive down the wrong street. So, if you want less death, start with the "protesters".

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Agree 1000%. Allowing these people to take over the streets is going to continue to result in dangerous confrontation. Anyone in a car in these areas is at risk of finding themselves in a "wrong place, wrong time" situation that threatens their life. City leadership and these PD's need to find their balls and stop the street protests.

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Mayor Adler is 100% responsible for this incident imo

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Gumby said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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That video was completely terrible. But it really looks like his gun is pointed down. At least, maybe not pointed directly up to the car window?

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Whether his gun is pointed up, down or sideways, if a man with a gun runs up to your window in this situation it seems more than reasonable to fear for your life. What if the driver waited 5 seconds and Garrett decided to raise the gun and unload it on him? The driver very well may have barely escaped with his life.

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21 feet is a direct threat with a knife. How about an AK?

The driver needs to really lean on "I feared for my life and shot to eliminate the threat".


Maybe, next time don't bring a rifle to a "mostly peaceful" protest.

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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Gumby said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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That video was completely terrible. But it really looks like his gun is pointed down. At least, maybe not pointed directly up to the car window?

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Whether his gun is pointed up, down or sideways, if a man with a gun runs up to your window in this situation it seems more than reasonable to fear for your life. What if the driver waited 5 seconds and Garrett decided to raise the gun and unload it on him? The driver very well may have barely escaped with his life.

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Hmm. Well, I think in this situation it matters. I think it provides an argument. I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but probably not the brightest move to just be carrying around a gun for no good reason.

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Gumby said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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That video was completely terrible. But it really looks like his gun is pointed down. At least, maybe not pointed directly up to the car window?

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Whether his gun is pointed up, down or sideways, if a man with a gun runs up to your window in this situation it seems more than reasonable to fear for your life. What if the driver waited 5 seconds and Garrett decided to raise the gun and unload it on him? The driver very well may have barely escaped with his life.

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21 feet is a direct threat with a knife. How about an AK?

The driver needs to really lean on "I feared for my life and shot to eliminate the threat".


Maybe, next time don't bring a rifle to a "mostly peaceful" protest.

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Where are you getting the knife/21 ft info from?

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tylercsbn9 said:

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chickencoupe16 said:

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Shot dead exercising his #1A & #2A

Shot dead because his dumbass pointed a gun at someone as a mob surrounded their car

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third coast.. said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Gumby said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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That video was completely terrible. But it really looks like his gun is pointed down. At least, maybe not pointed directly up to the car window?

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Whether his gun is pointed up, down or sideways, if a man with a gun runs up to your window in this situation it seems more than reasonable to fear for your life. What if the driver waited 5 seconds and Garrett decided to raise the gun and unload it on him? The driver very well may have barely escaped with his life.

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21 feet is a direct threat with a knife. How about an AK?

The driver needs to really lean on "I feared for my life and shot to eliminate the threat".


Maybe, next time don't bring a rifle to a "mostly peaceful" protest.

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Where are you getting the knife/21 ft info from?

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Uh all basic LE threat assessment FP info. At 21 feet a knife wielding assailant can generally make it to you before you can draw and fire. It happens QUICK

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Gumby said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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That video was completely terrible. But it really looks like his gun is pointed down. At least, maybe not pointed directly up to the car window?

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Whether his gun is pointed up, down or sideways, if a man with a gun runs up to your window in this situation it seems more than reasonable to fear for your life. What if the driver waited 5 seconds and Garrett decided to raise the gun and unload it on him? The driver very well may have barely escaped with his life.

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21 feet is a direct threat with a knife. How about an AK?

The driver needs to really lean on "I feared for my life and shot to eliminate the threat".


Maybe, next time don't bring a rifle to a "mostly peaceful" protest.

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Where are you getting the knife/21 ft info from?

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statistically someone with a knife can close the distance to you and stab you before you can draw and get off a shot at closer than 21 feet.

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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Gumby said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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That video was completely terrible. But it really looks like his gun is pointed down. At least, maybe not pointed directly up to the car window?

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Whether his gun is pointed up, down or sideways, if a man with a gun runs up to your window in this situation it seems more than reasonable to fear for your life. What if the driver waited 5 seconds and Garrett decided to raise the gun and unload it on him? The driver very well may have barely escaped with his life.

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Hmm. Well, I think in this situation it matters. I think it provides an argument. I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but probably not the brightest move to just be carrying around a gun for no good reason.

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This is why open carry is stupid especially with rifles and weapons that can't be holstered.

If someone comes up to me and we are having an intense discussion and they are concealed carrying I don't feel threatened unless they pull.

Same situation only they are open carrying with an ak47 style rifle that is considered "holstered" because it is carried on a shoulder strap, but they have their hands on it. Whether it is pointed down or not, their hands on the gun reasonably make me fear for my life.

Even more so if they are part of a mob that is hitting my vehicle.

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Where are you getting the knife/21 ft info from?

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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Where are you getting the knife/21 ft info from?

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Robert Earl Keen

In the El Vaquero Bar in the town of Eagle Pass
Moments from my freedom warm whiskey in my glass
Some boracho took me for the man who stole his wife
He went for his forty-four as I reached for my knife
He never fired a second shot he was just too slow
My new life is waiting in old Mexico

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Gumby said:

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Wearamaskaggie said:

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third coast.. said:

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sure looks like he is holding something up to the window in that video, im not sure what that person tweeting is talking abou

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That video was completely terrible. But it really looks like his gun is pointed down. At least, maybe not pointed directly up to the car window?

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Whether his gun is pointed up, down or sideways, if a man with a gun runs up to your window in this situation it seems more than reasonable to fear for your life. What if the driver waited 5 seconds and Garrett decided to raise the gun and unload it on him? The driver very well may have barely escaped with his life.

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21 feet is a direct threat with a knife. How about an AK?

The driver needs to really lean on "I feared for my life and shot to eliminate the threat".


Maybe, next time don't bring a rifle to a "mostly peaceful" protest.

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Where are you getting the knife/21 ft info from?

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statistically someone with a knife can close the distance to you and stab you before you can draw and get off a shot at closer than 21 feet.

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You think so? I have pretty much no firearms training aside from shooting back on the ranch and dove hunting, so I have no clue what proper firearm handling looks like.

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