You ain't wrong!MsDoubleD81 said:
I always thought pw was totally something way different!
Racist "windshield notes" confirmed a hoax
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I'll be honest with you, the first time I read it, thought it was a typo and the person meant PWT.ABATTBQ11 said:The ProFettsor said:I love how "PWI" is somehow attributed to white conservatives. I've never once inProsperdick said:MsDoubleD81 said:
They don't understand the acronym FOIA. They only know NAACP and POC.
Don't forget PWI.
my life used the term, the phrase, nor even heard it before the past few weeks. Hell, I had to look it up.
Wtf is PWI?
twk said:Surprisingly to some folks, leaving racially insensitive notes on someone's car, not in their presence, and without doing damage, probably isn't a criminal offense. Without a threat to violence, damage to property, or the prospect of an immediate breach of the peace, the alleged victim's story, even if true, probably would not have been a crime.Look it up said:After meeting with UPD:aggiehawg said:Let's swing back around to this for a minute. Leaving racist notes on your own windshield is not a crime? Or Martin declined to file a formal police report after consulting with counsel?Quote:
On 7/1/20 at 1030hrs, I called Martin who told me that he was advised by his attorney not to speak to me further.
On 7/1/20, I contacted the County Attorney`s Office to see if this incident was considered a False Report. This case does not meet the elements since Martin did not report a crime.
Leaving racist notes on your own windshield is not a crime?
Freedom of speech, can't be hate crime if you do it to yourself.
Or Martin declined to file a formal police report after consulting with counsel?
Not a good idea to file a police report on yourself.
As per filing charges for false report, not worth the effort to pursue because only harm done was to his own reputation which he did to himself.
If Isaih cooperates and reveals who wrote the notes...it would be a good opportunity for him to make amends.
What happens to Isaih is up to university officials.
As far as who wrote the notes, right now it is hearsay and can't be proven without a witness.
Other things still being investigated, wait for it.
Park West incident is done.
Reward money probably won't be given...
Therefore, his filing a false report regarding this non-crime does not fall within the coverage of the false report statute.
Fair enough.
Where does providing false information to a law enforcement officer fall in the spectrum of crime? For example, if they asked him, "Do you know who made these notes?" And he replied "I don't know" but he actually knew and the police could prove it, what would happen then?
I don't think the police can prove who made the notes, but I suspect they reminded him lying to the police comes with a penalty. At that point he stopped talking with them.
One thing that has bugged me that I haven't seen mentioned in this was about the dog walker accusation. How are we to assume how the dog walker knew that the car belonged to a black person? I'm assuming there is a bunch of cars in the parking area and this guy supposedly walks up (with paper and a sharpie while walking a dog no less) and just happens to pick out a random car he assumes is owned by a black guy?
Seems like an extremely implausible scenario.
Seems like an extremely implausible scenario.
If you make a sworn statement (something that an officer will probably ask for before proceeding with a formal complaint against a named defendant), then you risk perjury. Absent that, I think Section 42.06 of the Penal Code is the only thing that might apply, and, as mentioned, this wasn't a report of an "offense", nor was it a bombing, fire, or other emergcy.
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Sec. 42.06. FALSE ALARM OR REPORT. (a) A person commits an offense if he knowingly initiates, communicates or circulates a report of a present, past, or future bombing, fire, offense, or other emergency that he knows is false or baseless and that would ordinarily:
(1) cause action by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;
(2) place a person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury; or
(3) prevent or interrupt the occupation of a building, room, place of assembly, place to which the public has access, or aircraft, automobile, or other mode of conveyance.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor unless the false report is of an emergency involving a public or private institution of higher education or involving a public primary or secondary school, public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service, in which event the offense is a state jail felony.
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Sec. 42.06. FALSE ALARM OR REPORT. (a) A person commits an offense if he knowingly initiates, communicates or circulates a report of a present, past, or future bombing, fire, offense, or other emergency that he knows is false or baseless and that would ordinarily:
(1) cause action by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;
(2) place a person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury; or
(3) prevent or interrupt the occupation of a building, room, place of assembly, place to which the public has access, or aircraft, automobile, or other mode of conveyance.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor unless the false report is of an emergency involving a public or private institution of higher education or involving a public primary or secondary school, public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service, in which event the offense is a state jail felony.
If someone wanted to really go after someone, fake hate crimes might fall under attempts to incite violence or unrest, which would make it an emergency.
Protests on campus... nationwide rioting... an epidemic... Sully defaced the week before...
There's a reasonable case to be made that fake racist notes could be trying to incite a call to violence.
Protests on campus... nationwide rioting... an epidemic... Sully defaced the week before...
There's a reasonable case to be made that fake racist notes could be trying to incite a call to violence.
To be criminal probably requires :
1. You have filed for and received a civil harassment restraining order (not sure if TX has that specifically - it might be a check box on an application for protective order).
2. A named harasser in the restraining order.
3. A violation of the order after it has been signed into affect by a judge and served to the named respondent.
Otherwise freedom of speach.
1. You have filed for and received a civil harassment restraining order (not sure if TX has that specifically - it might be a check box on an application for protective order).
2. A named harasser in the restraining order.
3. A violation of the order after it has been signed into affect by a judge and served to the named respondent.
Otherwise freedom of speach.
Staff - take out the trash.
Another hoax? Or the gofundme type stuff soliciting money?Quote:
Other things still being investigated, wait for it.
Park West incident is done.
Reward money probably won't be given...
Not going to post about ongoing investigation, just be aware that things are being looked at.aggiehawg said:Another hoax? Or the gofundme type stuff soliciting money?Quote:
Other things still being investigated, wait for it.
Park West incident is done.
Reward money probably won't be given...
ABATTBQ11 said:The ProFettsor said:I love how "PWI" is somehow attributed to white conservatives. I've never once inProsperdick said:MsDoubleD81 said:
They don't understand the acronym FOIA. They only know NAACP and POC.
Don't forget PWI.
my life used the term, the phrase, nor even heard it before the past few weeks. Hell, I had to look it up.
Wtf is PWI?
Holy Crap this whole time I thought PWI stood for Park West something like Initiative or Industrial or Inpartments or something dumb.
So wait wait wait..... Isaih is claiming they literally said you don't belong at this PWI????
Like they said at this "predominantly white institution" or the abbreviation... or he is saying they said TAMU but he is not using the name (which is dumb since we all know where he goes).
there isn't a white person alive that would say PWI or even predominantly white institution when yelling an insult.
I mean the things they conjure in their heads that racists would say....or write on a note are comical.
I'm not saying I'm a racist and know what they would write but there are many things that just defy logic.
American Hardwood said:
One thing that has bugged me that I haven't seen mentioned in this was about the dog walker accusation. How are we to assume how the dog walker knew that the car belonged to a black person? I'm assuming there is a bunch of cars in the parking area and this guy supposedly walks up (with paper and a sharpie while walking a dog no less) and just happens to pick out a random car he assumes is owned by a black guy?
Seems like an extremely implausible scenario.
Kinda like two racists walking around downtown Chicago at 2am in 16 below freezing weather carrying a noose and some bleach looking for a black person to assault...oh and are avid watchers of the show Empire, they never miss an episode.
Zombie Jon Snow said:ABATTBQ11 said:The ProFettsor said:I love how "PWI" is somehow attributed to white conservatives. I've never once inProsperdick said:MsDoubleD81 said:
They don't understand the acronym FOIA. They only know NAACP and POC.
Don't forget PWI.
my life used the term, the phrase, nor even heard it before the past few weeks. Hell, I had to look it up.
Wtf is PWI?
Holy Crap this whole time I thought PWI stood for Park West something like Initiative or Industrial or Inpartments or something dumb.
So wait wait wait..... Isaih is claiming they literally said you don't belong at this PWI????
Like they said at this "predominantly white institution" or the abbreviation... or he is saying they said TAMU but he is not using the name (which is dumb since we all know where he goes).
there isn't a white person alive that would say PWI or even predominantly white institution when yelling an insult.
I mean the things they conjure in their heads that racists would say....or write on a note are comical.
I'm not saying I'm a racist and know what they would write but there are many things that just defy logic.
Well since he has been steadily gaining national attention as a liar, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that one is a lie too.
I've literally never heard that before and before we shut down I spend most of my time around young people. Nobody says that. Not the Trump supporters. Not the woke white kids. Not the BLM sympathizers. Nobody. That's a term you get taught by a Marxist professor...not one that gets used by Bubba from Vidor.
CNN is the enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Were you actually at UPD today?
American Hardwood said:
One thing that has bugged me that I haven't seen mentioned in this was about the dog walker accusation. How are we to assume how the dog walker knew that the car belonged to a black person? I'm assuming there is a bunch of cars in the parking area and this guy supposedly walks up (with paper and a sharpie while walking a dog no less) and just happens to pick out a random car he assumes is owned by a black guy?
Seems like an extremely implausible scenario.
Maybe he knew because This is MAGA country!!!
yesMsDoubleD81 said:
Were you actually at UPD today?
Garrelli 5000 said:It is stupid made up language crazy people think the right uses.Prosperdick said:The ProFettsor said:I love how "PWI" is somehow attributed to white conservatives. I've never once in my life used the term, the phrase, nor even heard it before the past few weeks. Hell, I had to look it up.Prosperdick said:MsDoubleD81 said:
They don't understand the acronym FOIA. They only know NAACP and POC.
Don't forget PWI.
Me as well and I suspect 99% of conservatives had never heard it before a week ago. The victimhood culture is so vibrant they almost create their own language with all the silly acronyms of non-existent threats they "suffer."
When the Jussie story very first hit the news I went straight to "hoax" when he said the perpetrators said "this is maga country".
Nobody talks like that. Except for stupid liberals telling lies about the right.
"That sounds like something I would say"
Cool. Can you tell us if/when the apartment video footage from will be released?
I googled PWI last week as I was not familiar with the term
AS far as I can tell it was a term generated in critical race theory discussions to identify as the names says, predominately white institutions
there is also a secondary meaning
posting while intoxicated
AS far as I can tell it was a term generated in critical race theory discussions to identify as the names says, predominately white institutions
there is also a secondary meaning
posting while intoxicated
Who just cruises around town with computer paper and a sharpie looking to write ugly notes? Even the underlying concept of the fake hate crime was clunky af. That's not how racists would work. Makes you wonder if he's ever experienced any actual racism if he cant even create a plausible fake.
I bet as a kid he was picked on for being nerdy or a girl he liked chose a white guy over him. This probably manifested over time into hatred and anger
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
Plus real racists would have F'ed up his car.Rick Burns said:
Who just cruises around town with computer paper and a sharpie looking to write ugly notes? Even the underlying concept of the fake hate crime was clunky af. That's not how racists would work. Makes you wonder if he's ever experienced any actual racism if he cant even create a plausible fake.
I never thought about it..but you're right!
Prognightmare said:Plus real racists would have F'ed up his car.Rick Burns said:
Who just cruises around town with computer paper and a sharpie looking to write ugly notes? Even the underlying concept of the fake hate crime was clunky af. That's not how racists would work. Makes you wonder if he's ever experienced any actual racism if he cant even create a plausible fake.
First rule of racial hoaxes... They don't do any real damage... And we've seen enough to know the pattern.
hedge said:
I bet as a kid he was picked on for being nerdy or a girl he liked chose a white guy over him. This probably manifested over time into hatred and anger
Girl?
forgive me comrade for using gendered language
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
hedge said:
forgive me comrade for using gendered language
Reread my name
Get the joke
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
hedge said:
There's no special teams play in my name
Given the circumstances. Better chance than not that the phone call was staged by one of her friends. Probably a hoaxunmade bed said:
I feel bad for the girl that got implicated and whichever of you idiots called her and said nasty things needs to get some help for your problems.
If she was not involved, and Isaiah is really a friend of hers, he needs to man up and admit who wrote note. Whoever conspired to pull of the hoax is definitely worthy of ridicule, even without a crime being committed.
I am not convinced by the "handwriting" analysis (other than finding it interesting, it's certainly not a slam dunk), but I am convinced Isiaih put those notes on his own windshield, so he knows who wrote them.
hedge said:
I bet as a kid he was picked on for being nerdy or a girl he liked chose a white guy over him. This probably manifested over time into hatred and anger
Y'all totally misread the main motivator for most of this stuff. Victimhood is popular. Being a victim of racial injustice is a status symbol and gets you attention, especially in the "all-important" world of social media.
It's not nearly as much about hate as it is about insecurity and narcissism. The "hate" just kind of becomes acculturated as a byproduct of the pursuit of victimhood.
I don't have control over that.MsDoubleD81 said:
Cool. Can you tell us if/when the apartment video footage from will be released?
DTP02 said:hedge said:
I bet as a kid he was picked on for being nerdy or a girl he liked chose a white guy over him. This probably manifested over time into hatred and anger
Y'all totally misread the main motivator for most of this stuff. Victimhood is popular. Being a victim of racial injustice is a status symbol and gets you attention, especially in the "all-important" world of social media.
It's not nearly as much about hate as it is about insecurity and narcissism. The "hate" just kind of becomes acculturated as a byproduct of the pursuit of victimhood.
And, don't forget the whole underlying tie... They're fundraising on it. This is a money grab. And they're trying to get the admin to pledge more money.
Like the facial rug burns that were caused on that young lady by 4 marauding frat boys in Hawaiian shirts with lighter fluid and a lighter that stays lit when thrown?Decay said:Prognightmare said:Plus real racists would have F'ed up his car.Rick Burns said:
Who just cruises around town with computer paper and a sharpie looking to write ugly notes? Even the underlying concept of the fake hate crime was clunky af. That's not how racists would work. Makes you wonder if he's ever experienced any actual racism if he cant even create a plausible fake.
First rule of racial hoaxes... They don't do any real damage... And we've seen enough to know the pattern.
I just thought maybe it came up in your meeting.
Prognightmare said:Like the facial rug burns that were caused on that young lady by 4 marauding frat boys in Hawaiian shirts with lighter fluid and a lighter that stays lit when thrown?Decay said:Prognightmare said:Plus real racists would have F'ed up his car.Rick Burns said:
Who just cruises around town with computer paper and a sharpie looking to write ugly notes? Even the underlying concept of the fake hate crime was clunky af. That's not how racists would work. Makes you wonder if he's ever experienced any actual racism if he cant even create a plausible fake.
First rule of racial hoaxes... They don't do any real damage... And we've seen enough to know the pattern.
Or the guy whose beater car was spray painted while the expensive SUV next to it was spared. Or the person who had shoe polish harmlessly painted on their windows but not the paint. Or the garage door spray paint that missed the cars in the driveway. Etc etc etc.
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