Racist "windshield notes" confirmed a hoax

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In reply to Zombie Jon Snow • 7:34a, 7/12/20
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Yesterday I was hoping that he'd come out w a public apology so everything could be smoothed over and everyone could forgive him. Chalk it up to a young man being caught up in the moment where we could all learn from the mistakes made......

After reading his response, its time for the university leadership to speak with him and his parents first thing Monday morning to give him one last chance to publicly apologize. If he refuses, immediately expel him.

On a side note, if Young does nothing we should storm his office, literally pick him up and throw him off campus.
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In reply to AgFan2015 • 7:37a, 7/12/20
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Publicly apoloogize and name his co-conspirators
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 7:53a, 7/12/20
If thats what he feels is part of the apology, cool. If not, it's up to those folks that helped aid this to come forward. They need to apologize also.

However, I'm guessing that the main instigator, already packed up her belongings and headed home.....the handwriting always looked a little feminine to me. She still has a chance to apologize though.


It's really not a tough decision, a) grow up and show some maturity by asking for forgiveness and moving on w a degree in your hand that you earned or b) let your pride take over and suffer the consequences throughout the rest of your life.


I'm still willing to forgive him and the others but that window is closing the longer this goes on.
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In reply to AgFan2015 • 7:57a, 7/12/20
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The window got 99% closed when he tried to blame an innocent dog walker.
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 8:01a, 7/12/20
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The window got 99% closed when he tried to blame an innocent dog walker.
I bet a surprising amount of people would be willing to publicly accept his apology if he made one. I know it'd go a long way with me. Mostly because the Marxist strategy is to double down, forever and ever. It'd be nice to see someone say "enough is enough".

Especially if he named the writer. It wasn't him. It would be the actual bravery that everyone claims Kellen is showing.
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8:04a, 7/12/20
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I would accept his apology. Then demand that his sorry a** be expelled from the University. Aggies do not lie, steal or cheat nor tolerate those that do.
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In reply to AgFan2015 • 8:05a, 7/12/20
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I understand your position, but when someone is involved in a criminal conspiracy, and is asking for leniency, a condition of a "lesser sentence" is almost always to turn States evidence on your co-conspirators.

That would be appropriate here, especially if, as TexAgs believes, the co-conspirators include people who are actively trying to drag A&M through the mud over the LS Ross statue.
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 8:14a, 7/12/20
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I understand your position, but when someone is involved in a criminal conspiracy, and is asking for leniency, a condition of a "lesser sentence" is almost always to turn States evidence on your co-conspirators.

That would be appropriate here, especially if, as TexAgs believes, the co-conspirators include people who are actively trying to drag A&M through the mud over the LS Ross statue.
Yes. He'd have to come clean about what he and his crew have been up to. There's some ties that could indicate they were involved with the original vandalism, so that would be a good thread to tie it all together.
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In reply to stetson • 8:19a, 7/12/20
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I would accept his apology. Then demand that his sorry a** be expelled from the University. Aggies do not lie, steal or cheat nor tolerate those that do.


Uh....that's really not "accepting" his apology.

I get where your coming from though. He needs to suffer some consequences. To me, being labeled as Isiah Martin Racist Hoax - Letter guy and being outed is enough. That's a pretty big label to wear for the next couple decades.....All of that can be deleted with a simple," I'm sorry for what I did, can you all please forgive me?"

It's a shame, he's probably not going to apologize. You'll get you wish, he's going to be expelled. And then he'll regret his decisions for the rest of his life.

If he doesn't get expelled, if he is a poultry science major, as the thread alluded to, he needs to understand that there are a lot of Ags in that industry that may not be willing to look the other way as he's applying for jobs. Not because they are racists, but because they won't be able to trust him.
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8:26a, 7/12/20
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Apology or not, no consequences from the University whose reputation he damaged as well as actual victims who now have a tougher hill to climb would be the most laughably impotent response I could imagine. Expel his sorry ass
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8:27a, 7/12/20
The university is being ****ed in order to be woke
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
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In reply to AgFan2015 • 11:52a, 7/12/20
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Mr.Infectious said:
stetson said:
I would accept his apology. Then demand that his sorry a** be expelled from the University. Aggies do not lie, steal or cheat nor tolerate those that do.


Uh....that's really not "accepting" his apology.

I get where your coming from though. He needs to suffer some consequences. To me, being labeled as Isiah Martin Racist Hoax - Letter guy and being outed is enough. That's a pretty big label to wear for the next couple decades.....All of that can be deleted with a simple," I'm sorry for what I did, can you all please forgive me?"

It's a shame, he's probably not going to apologize. You'll get you wish, he's going to be expelled. And then he'll regret his decisions for the rest of his life.

If he doesn't get expelled, if he is a poultry science major, as the thread alluded to, he needs to understand that there are a lot of Ags in that industry that may not be willing to look the other way as he's applying for jobs. Not because they are racists, but because they won't be able to trust him.


Apologies don't negate consequences. If my daughter breaks rules and apologizes I will absolutely accept her apology but she will still be punished. There are consequences for poor decisions, no matter how sorry you are for your poor decision.
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12:05p, 7/12/20
And yet he cowardly blocks anyone from seeing his twitter
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In reply to chickencoupe16 • 12:11p, 7/12/20
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Why is this such a hard concept for some to grasp? Forgiveness does not mean consequence-less. I'd like the guy to man-up. But he still has to suffer the consequences of filing a false police report and actively trying to slander the the University and all Aggies as racist. No consequences and he will be emboldened instead of chastened by his lies.
“It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character.”
Joseph Heller, Catch 22
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In reply to japantiger • 1:39p, 7/12/20
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Why is this such a hard concept for some to grasp? Forgiveness does not mean consequence-less. I'd like the guy to man-up. But he still has to suffer the consequences of filing a false police report and actively trying to slander the the University and all Aggies as racist. No consequences and he will be emboldened instead of chastened by his lies.
Exactly. I'd forgive him... doesn't mean jack squat about his consequences.

edit: I just realized this is actually his second hoax since he claimed a bunch of country boy bubbas shouted "NO BLACKS AT OUR PWI" so he'd have to address that too. He's got a bit of a backlog.
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1:47p, 7/12/20
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If he apologizes it means I might listen if he said something racist happened to him in the future. Trust but verify.

No apology - I won't believe something happened to him even if show me a video in 4K with a captioned transcript that it is anything other than fake.

Still need to kick his ass out along with Young.
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2:07p, 7/12/20
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I would forgive him. I am a Christian that loves all people.

Would he have forgiven the person if it were a true racial act? Highly doubtful.

Will he admit and apologize, .03% chance of that ever happening.

So I will still say this is one of the most classless, hateful things a person could do.

POC should not stand by idly while this degradation of the true fight for justice is happening.

It only belittles the cause.

An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate those who do. The Aggie Code of Honor is an effort to unify the aims of all Texas A&M men and women toward a high code of ethics and personal dignity.

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2:19p, 7/12/20
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I'm all for forgiveness. The issue is he tried to pawn this off on an innocent white guy out walking his dog. This makes me VERY hard for me to feel any sympathy or even be okay with a half assed apology.

If he could've pegged it on this guy, he would have (he tried) and the truth never would've come out.
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2:22p, 7/12/20
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Ben what's the status of the reward money? You were involved in solving the case.
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In reply to Redstone • 2:23p, 7/12/20
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Redstone said:
Ben what's the status of the reward money? You were involved in solving the case.


It's now been 17 days since Young announced a $1200 reward and NOTHING.

WHERES OUR MONEY YOUNG??

CERTIFIED.
FUNDS.

In fact, I'll take Young's resignation in lieu of any cash reward.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to BenFiasco14 • 2:25p, 7/12/20
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Redstone said:
Ben what's the status of the reward money? You were involved in solving the case.


It's now been 17 days since Young announced a $1200 reward and NOTHING.

WHERES OUR MONEY YOUNG??

CERTIFIED.
FUNDS.

In fact, I'll take Young's resignation in lieu of any cash reward.
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In reply to DallasAg 94 • 2:27p, 7/12/20
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Tanya 93 said:

I want Whataburger ketchup and Central Market Crunchy Peanut butter
I'm a big fan of crunchy PB.... is CM's good?
The best
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2:29p, 7/12/20
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Seriously where are Martin's parents in all this? My folks would have snatched the hair off my head and beat my ass for pulling a stunt like this.

College kids today are largely a bunch of dorky introverts who don't know the difference between real life and the shallow presence of video games and social media.
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2:30p, 7/12/20
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Where's our illustrious University President? Hiding like a coward???
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In reply to Tanya 93 • 2:32p, 7/12/20
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we could make Tanya a Brazos valley care package
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In reply to Mega Lops • 2:39p, 7/12/20
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Seriously where are Martin's parents in all this? My folks would have snatched the hair off my head and beat my ass for pulling a stunt like this.

College kids today are largely a bunch of dorky introverts who don't know the difference between real life and the shallow presence of video games and social media.
This is a repeat of Payton Head at Mizzou,

Scream racism on campus, lead protests, and you become a national figure.

Unfortunately for Isaih, he wasn't as smart or educated as Mr Head and ****ed it up completely.

Hopefully he can get hired after creating such a lying ****storm
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In reply to Wabs • 2:46p, 7/12/20
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He's enjoying a nice piece of cheesecake.
Easy come, easy go
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11:42a, 7/13/20
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Andy Ngo not messing around

CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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11:55a, 7/13/20
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I guess I missed it. Where did that woman's name and her business get exposed in that report? I'm looking at it now and I don't see it anywhere. Did she expose herself??
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11:57a, 7/13/20
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Literally the dummest thing I've seen today. Why on earth would you call her?
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12:02p, 7/13/20
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Another interesting observation and maybe this is a stretch, but she hasn't had a single voicemail since6/17, personal or business related, and now all of the sudden she gets this scathing message? Timing is just way too convenient. Your cookie business so busy that people have to leave voicemail orders? Where are all your other voicemail orders?
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In reply to Charpie • 12:02p, 7/13/20
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Charpie said:
Literally the dummest thing I've seen today. Why on earth would you call her?
Also shows how smart TexAgs was to keep her name and info off this site.
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