Racist "windshield notes" confirmed a hoax

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Can someone send me the link to the source of the report?
Easy come, easy go
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WE'RE NOT RACIST! CONFIRMED!
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He pulled a keebler drizzler
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Is the possibility of a defamation suit.. for former and current students against the establishment for jumping the gun before all facts were in a possibility?
just spit ballin here
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Class action suit -I am in. What about defamation of character as well, but that's more difficult to prove? I don't know about you but I feel defamed-and our esteemed President Young poured gasoline on the fire.
"I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna...I shall never surrender or retreat."
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I'm in. I'm out of work and have no income. But I'll put money in whatever it takes. Sue young's ass.
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There isn't a basis for a suit here, folks.

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his fault... many apologies vader
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DTP02 said:

There isn't a basis for a suit here, folks.



Libel for the entire current and former student body implying we are racists. Loss of income and mental stress.
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FriscoKid said:

beanbean said:

Guy's story was shot at the moment he tried to finger the w/m walking the dog for the crime. It was obvious to the cop (and the rest of the world) this was a chick's handwriting. Then to bring a w/f to the station? Cop was like, "you amateurs."

I starred your post but I can totally see a soy boy's writing be assessed as "feminine."

And I have terrible handwriting. But I write in cursive, not block letter like kids are only taught today. Blew my mind that cursive is no longer taught in American schools.
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TexAgs91 said:

Michael Young, you assumed again that your A&M students were racists, and again you were wrong.

Are you learning yet?


he has no intention to "learn".

are we learning yet? time for us to collectively stand up.
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Absolutely, going to court will get his attention.
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Marlin39m said:

I'm not sure why the prosecutor said there was no offense. The way I read False Alarm or Report penal code 42.06, it doesn't require the person to file an official report. Just stating it knowing it would cause a reaction is enough.

(a) A person commits an offense if he knowingly initiates, communicates or circulates a report of a present, past, or future bombing, fire, offense, or other emergency that he knows is false or baseless and that would ordinarily:
(1) cause action by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;
(2) place a person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury; or
(3) prevent or interrupt the occupation of a building, room, place of assembly, place to which the public has access, or aircraft, automobile, or other mode of conveyance.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor unless the false report is of an emergency involving a public or private institution of higher education or involving a public primary or secondary school, public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service, in which event the offense is a state jail felony.
The question is whether placing hateful notes on a persons windshield is an "offense." Since it was not destructive, and, as reported, did not occur in the presence of the purported victim (such as might cause a breach of the peace), I think UPD is right--there is no offense, even if what he had reported was true. So, filing a false report about something that wouldn't constitute an offense (or bombing, fire, or other emergency) will not support a charge under 42.06.
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beanbean said:

Guy's story was shot at the moment he tried to finger the w/m walking the dog for the crime. It was obvious to the cop (and the rest of the world) this was a chick's handwriting. Then to bring a w/f to the station? Cop was like, "you amateurs."
More like, "U" amateurs...
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DTP02 said:

There isn't a basis for a suit here, folks.


No there isn't.

This is massively frustrating. Twitter is a pox on our society.
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Deats said:

jabberwalkie09 said:

Swarely said:

What's your email? I'll send it to you.

Could I get a copy as well? I'd rather PM my email though.


Done

You're awesome, thanks!
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This event is why you NEVER give into SJW progs, you destroy them.
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Who is now in possession of the notes?
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I think we should use the left's tactics against one of their own and put together a fund to pay anyone for verifiable information that will lead to Young's removal and/or resignation.

Might all be BS, but since when does that matter when running a smear campaign to get someone outed... can't tell me there isn't stuff out there to absolutely wreck a guy who is widely unpopular.
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Mrs Hawg, surely you of all Aggie lawyers know Young insulted and defamed the entire former and current student body. How is there no case here? He's basically said A&M is full of racists and in doing so he's said don't hire them especially when some of us have been laid off and are still looking for work during this corona situation. Seriously it's even more of an insult and a harder situation to find a job now because of his false statements.
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Who is now in possession of the notes?


The cops. They're testing them for fingerprints.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Michael Young

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Deats said:

What we knew from day 1...
Day 1? Minute 1: "Probably fake" was the first post on that thread. 1 Minute after it was posted by ligma.

See for yourself:

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3120584/1
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BenFiasco14 said:

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Still awaiting fingerprint analysis on the notes per the police department.
So that is confirmation that the police actually have them in their possession? Because other reports seem to indicate Martin didn't give them to the police.


Yes. Elsewhere in the report its stated Martin handed them over "crumpled". The cops bagged them and stored them in an evidence locker. Now they're being analyzed for fingerprints.
Crumpled? So he can explain his fingerprints all over. And hopefully blur the real author's enough where there can't be verification.
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if he didn't defame the character I need to learn the definition then... and not to mention the stress that my wife went through after his statement...

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To everyone who aided in exposing the hoax...very well done.
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You have to demonstrate harm. Beyond all that, the university is protected. Seeing how they acted post bonfire was enough for me.
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aggiehawg said:

Vader Was Framed said:

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On 7/1/20 at 1030hrs, I called Martin who told me that he was advised by his attorney not to speak to me further.

On 7/1/20, I contacted the County Attorney`s Office to see if this incident was considered a False Report. This case does not meet the elements since Martin did not report a crime.
Let's swing back around to this for a minute. Leaving racist notes on your own windshield is not a crime? Or Martin declined to file a formal police report after consulting with counsel?


Both can be true. But I think this statement means he did not ever report any crime, so there can be no false report.
I would like some clarity on this as failure to formerly file a police report is not the only potential offense here.

Anyone remember the Jody Foster, Kelly McGillis movie in 1988, The Accused? That was based on a true story. The actual rapists pleaded out but the onlookers were prosecuted for cheering and egging on multiple felonies.

Now I'm not saying a tweet is a form of incitement per se but in today's context, it might be found to be so by a jury, had one occurred.

We are at a very real intersection of how free speech is being used to incite violence that is not directed towards any specific individual. Just think what someone like Charles Manson could have done in the age of twitter. (For the youngsters here, Manson wanted to start a race war through the killings he ordered.)
This is a conspiracy, to perpetrate a fraud. It needs to be punished so as to discourage it being repeated. If it's ignored, we're very likely to see it again, and soon. Who can file a complaint? Can't any resident of the jurisdiction?
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Can they trace ink?
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aggiehawg said:

BenFiasco14 said:

aggiehawg said:

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Still awaiting fingerprint analysis on the notes per the police department.
So that is confirmation that the police actually have them in their possession? Because other reports seem to indicate Martin didn't give them to the police.


Yes. Elsewhere in the report its stated Martin handed them over "crumpled". The cops bagged them and stored them in an evidence locker. Now they're being analyzed for fingerprints.
Crumpled? So he can explain his fingerprints all over. And hopefully blur the real author's enough where there can't be verification.


Fair enough. Martins finger prints are gonna be all over it, because he placed the notes himself, and of course "crumpled them" after. As far as the author is concerned, it's totally possible she wrote them without ever putting a finger on the notes themselves.

However, here's the nugget regarding it:

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On June 26, 2020 at approximately 1100 hours, I treated the notes with ninhydrin to check for fingerprints. There were several useable prints identified on the notes. I contaced Det. [redacted by me] of the findings. At approximately 1130 hours, the notes were returned to storage in the evidence room.


So we're all the prints martins? Well have to wait and see
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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It hurts when someone screws with your life, doesn't it?


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again again ya mean.... i recall a letter from a country club of some sorts.... and wasn't too long ago
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Old_Ag_91 said:

Mrs Hawg, surely you of all Aggie lawyers know Young insulted and defamed the entire former and current student body. How is there no case here? He's basically said A&M is full of racists and in doing so he's said don't hire them especially when some of us have been laid off and are still looking for work during this corona situation. Seriously it's even more of an insult and a harder situation to find a job now because of his false statements.
Young straddled the fence enough to avoid that. That's my assessment.
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BenFiasco14 said:

aggiehawg said:

BenFiasco14 said:

aggiehawg said:

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Still awaiting fingerprint analysis on the notes per the police department.
So that is confirmation that the police actually have them in their possession? Because other reports seem to indicate Martin didn't give them to the police.


Yes. Elsewhere in the report its stated Martin handed them over "crumpled". The cops bagged them and stored them in an evidence locker. Now they're being analyzed for fingerprints.
Crumpled? So he can explain his fingerprints all over. And hopefully blur the real author's enough where there can't be verification.


Fair enough. Martins finger prints are gonna be all over it, because he placed the notes himself, and of course "crumpled them" after. As far as the author is concerned, it's totally possible she wrote them without ever putting a finger on the notes themselves.

However, here's the nugget regarding it:

Quote:

On June 26, 2020 at approximately 1100 hours, I treated the notes with ninhydrin to check for fingerprints. There were several useable prints identified on the notes. I contaced Det. [redacted by me] of the findings. At approximately 1130 hours, the notes were returned to storage in the evidence room.


So we're all the prints martins? Well have to wait and see


Are they even investigating further? No crime was committed due to the lack of a filed report so what is their incentive to keep investigating?
 
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