China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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CrazyRichAggie said:

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US Timeline:



Italitan Timeline





IMO these timeline charts are pretty worthless and very misleading. People just glance at these and freak out. "Oh my gosh this virus is spreading like wildfire!!!"

When in reality I bet this virus has been in the US for several weeks, if not months. Most people figured it was the common flu, cold or seasonal allergies and went about their life as normal. Fast forward to today and now everyone is freaking out ,if they so much sneeze or cough they rush to be tested.

That explains the exponential spike in cases but who needs to know the details when you can just glance at a chart.
I agree. Highly under-representative of reality.
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Doesn't look like a 14 day quarantine is gonna cut it.
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Testing positive after being declared clear of the infection: a 31-year-old evacuee from the Diamond Princess cruise ship was first infected on Feb 18 while aboard, but later appeared to have recovered and tested negative on March 4 and 6 in Japan before returning to Hong Kong on March 7.

On March 9, she was found to be still infected. Disease expert Dr Joseph Tsang Kay-yan said several reasons such as sampling error and "insufficiently sensitive" tests could have accounted for the woman's "false negative" results in Japan. "Perhaps the swab was not done properly, or an antibody blood test was not done."

In any case she would have to be tested for a particular type of antibody 21 days after the diagnosis, before results can be conclusive that she was clear of the virus. He believes the woman was not reinfected as her antibodies upon recovering would give her immunity for a period of time.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3074457/coronavirus-three-more-infections-confirmed-hong
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14 days is likely sufficient for the vast majority of cases and the shedding of the virus after two negative tests is probably very low

you can't necessarily develop protocols to capture all tail-end risk. you can be practical.
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Civil.Savage said:


That was quicker than I thought. I guess with NY it makes sense.

Will we see active an active duty response in the US?
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Beat40 said:

At this point, I just wish the good ole US of A had a much more reliable denominator. Maybe we would all be feeling a lot better if we did.

Also, wish we had some more recent communication on testing from the CDC becauase I thought that was supposed to be ramped up by the end of last week.

Really botching an opportunity to ease some fears or at least limit wild speculation about the state of America by not trying to actively determine the total number of cases.


There was a presser from the coronavirus task force yesterday that talked about testing at length. I'm surprised it wasn't linked on this thread that links random, unsourced twitter reporting.
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Just found out that the cruise ship my parents are on has some crew from the Grand Princess and was under a no-sail rule until tested for CV.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/tourism-cruises/article241053836.html


Looks like they have been cleared to dock.

I would not get on a cruise right now.
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CDub06 said:

Oddly enough, this virus is not affecting the size of your genitals, so take your ***** measuring somewhere else.


Funny you say that, it has resulting swollen testicles, no I'm not kidding.


https://www.newsweek.com/chinese-scientists-coronavirus-male-fertility-1488235
Trying to find a better source
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Dang pretty hard hitting...what would you do if you had a funeral?

https://www.thelocal.it/20200310/funeral-goers-in-sicily-face-fines-and-prison-after-breaking-quarantine-rules

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Some 50 people in Sicily are facing stiff penalties after disobeying newly-imposed national quarantine rules and holding a funeral in the middle of the coronavirus outbreak.



The sombre procession was moving through the streets of Porto Empedocle on the island's southwestern coast on Tuesday when the carabinieri police were alerted by a passerby, the AGI news agency said.

The 48 mourners will face prosecution in nearby Agrigento. Each person found to have broken the quarantine rules can be fined 206 euros ($234) and even jailed for up to three months.

Italy on Tuesday unveiled unprecedented social containment measures aimed at halting the spread of a disease that has killed 463 people and infected more than 9,000 in the country in just over three weeks.

Emergency measures had initially been imposed on the worst-hit regions in the north, including Lombardy, which has seen the biggest number of cases and deaths during the outbreak.

But on Monday evening, after it was announced the death toll had risen by 97 to a total of 463, the government said the measures would be imposed nationwide.
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CDub06 said:

Doesn't look like a 14 day quarantine is gonna cut it.
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Testing positive after being declared clear of the infection: a 31-year-old evacuee from the Diamond Princess cruise ship was first infected on Feb 18 while aboard, but later appeared to have recovered and tested negative on March 4 and 6 in Japan before returning to Hong Kong on March 7.

On March 9, she was found to be still infected. Disease expert Dr Joseph Tsang Kay-yan said several reasons such as sampling error and "insufficiently sensitive" tests could have accounted for the woman's "false negative" results in Japan. "Perhaps the swab was not done properly, or an antibody blood test was not done."

In any case she would have to be tested for a particular type of antibody 21 days after the diagnosis, before results can be conclusive that she was clear of the virus. He believes the woman was not reinfected as her antibodies upon recovering would give her immunity for a period of time.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3074457/coronavirus-three-more-infections-confirmed-hong
Or it was a false negative test. The current test kits are very good, but nothing is 100%.
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VaultingChemist said:

cone said:

what about increased UV
UV-C will kill coronaviruses.
UV-C does not penetrate ozone, correct?

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Tabasco said:

VaultingChemist said:

cone said:

what about increased UV
UV-C will kill coronaviruses.
UV-C does not penetrate ozone, correct?



You see UV-C generators in hospitals, waiting rooms, etc...
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin
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this is a public service. i hope it goes viral.
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cone said:



this is a public service. i hope it goes viral.


I think he's trying to prevent anything viral!



But seriously, the last 2 masses I've been to the priest just skipped right over the sign of peace.
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For us non Catholics, what is the sign of peace?
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China's Pooh Bear Xi is out in Wuhan....interesting I saw this on the CDC's YouTube...

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Drifter. said:

For us non Catholics, what is the sign of peace?
Shaking hands with everyone around you.
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Drifter. said:

For us non Catholics, what is the sign of peace?
Sharing a handshake with the people in your immediate surroundings
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Tabasco said:

VaultingChemist said:

cone said:

what about increased UV
UV-C will kill coronaviruses.
UV-C does not penetrate ozone, correct?


This is underrated. If we finish getting rid of the ozone layer, we would not only kill off COVID-19 but also many other viruses as well. Trump needs to make this happen NOW!
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Drifter. said:

For us non Catholics, what is the sign of peace?


It's when you shake hands with a bunch of strangers.
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scottimus said:

China's Pooh Bear Xi is out in Wuhan....interesting I saw this on the CDC's YouTube...


Fake Xi. Just an actor.
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Massachusetts up to 92 cases
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javajaws said:

Tabasco said:

VaultingChemist said:

cone said:

what about increased UV
UV-C will kill coronaviruses.
UV-C does not penetrate ozone, correct?



You see UV-C generators in hospitals, waiting rooms, etc...
yeah I knew that. I think the context was Spring/Summer and higher temperatures/UV killing viruses. I bought a PhoneSoap that uses UV-C to "clean" phones.
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Quote:

3/ Life Care Center is now up to 19 patient deaths and there have been positive tests for 31 of the remaining 50 or so patients.

"The response has been putrid," the first responder tells CNN.

4/ "While we keep hearing about increased testing availability and lifting restrictions on who can be tested, none of that is making a difference when the tests can't be processed in a timely manner," the first responder continues...

5/ "...Tests for Firefighters, Police Officers, husbands, wives and children are being left to expire while we know the disease is spreading. This is a matter of public safety and the response is failing. Availability of tests is not equaling results."
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My kids were sick a few weeks ago and we took them to our local pediatrician/pcp.

They tested negative for flu & negative for strep, and when I asked about testing them for corona they said they didn't have the capabilities to test quite yet.

I think this is a significantly under-reported problem that is only going to make the spread of this virus 10x worse.

Who knows... maybe we are walking around with coronas right now even though we are not thirsty!
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cone said:



this is a public service. i hope it goes viral.
Did he really have to put his man on blast like that though? Just get in the huddle before you start setting up for Eucharist and tell him that we are going to be skipping the Sharing of the Peace.

He was eagerly waiting for his cue and then he blows him up, forcing him to nervously laugh.
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NPH- said:

My kids were sick a few weeks ago and we took them to our local pediatrician/pcp.

They tested negative for flu & negative for strep, and when I asked about testing them for corona they said they didn't have the capabilities to test quite yet.

I think this is a significantly under-reported problem that is only going to make the spread of this virus 10x worse.

Who knows... maybe we are walking around with coronas right now even though we are not thirsty!
A few weeks ago? Were they out of the country?
Trump will fix it.
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BadMoonRisin said:


Did he really have to put his man on blast like that though? Just get in the huddle before you start setting up for Eucharist and tell him that we are going to be skipping the Sharing of the Peace.


lol
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The wholesale murder of the English language in that image...
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NPH- said:

My kids were sick a few weeks ago and we took them to our local pediatrician/pcp.

They tested negative for flu & negative for strep, and when I asked about testing them for corona they said they didn't have the capabilities to test quite yet.

I think this is a significantly under-reported problem that is only going to make the spread of this virus 10x worse.

Who knows... maybe we are walking around with coronas right now even though we are not thirsty!


Actually, if this is a wide spread occurrence, based on the fact you are posting on TexAgs with no major side effects, this virus is 10x OVERHYPED.

If you tested positive, does it change anything other than prove it was easy to kick?
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yeah, that's twitter for you.
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lunchbox said:

More and more universities are either starting spring break early or telling students not to come back from spring break...most are trying to get distance learning up and running for all their students.

Ohio St and Harvard are recent additions to the list.
and TAMU and Texas are in serious discussion as of today about this. Trying to determine logistical capabilities of going online and making campus a ghost town. Significant financial implications to B/CS if this were to happen.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-09/alcohol-kills-14-in-iran-in-misguided-effort-to-kill-virus

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Fourteen people in Iran's southwestern Khuzestan province died overnight from alcohol poisoning, the Fars News Agency reported Monday, as some turned to ingesting industrial-grade ethanol and methanol in a misguided effort to stave off the coronavirus tearing through the country.


Deaths from alcohol poisoning were also reported in the provinces of Tehran and Alborz. An unfounded rumor has spread through the country that drinking alcohol will kill the virus, and hospitals have seen a spike in alcohol-poisoning cases, the Mehr news agency reported. More than 200 are reported hospitalized in Khuzestan alone, according to the Iranian Labour News Agency.

This is horrible news for some folks on this thread.
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So facebook is deleting this post left and right.

"There's additional reporting by an independent fact-checker on content that you shared"

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Civil.Savage said:


Please keep "Deep State" BS out of this thread.
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