China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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An illness that is likely to have more of an effect on the elderly and those with compromised immune systems. Sounds like most viruses to me, but yes, lets cancel and close everything. Media driven hysteria.
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Jet Black said:

An illness that is likely to have more of an effect on the elderly and those with compromised immune systems. Sounds like most viruses to me, but yes, lets cancel and close everything. Media driven hysteria.


If you called the flu a different name and updated your news site or twitter each time we had an infection and/or death the S&P 500 would be a penny stock.

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k2aggie07 said:

You know what's more annoying than coronavirus? People hyperventilating or flexing and telling other people to calm down.
Hyperventilating and flexing are both necessary



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This is your daily reminder that it took Barack Obama until October of 2009 to declare Swine Flu a National Health Emergency

It began in April of '09 but Obama waited until 20,000 people in the US had been hospitalized & 1,000+ had died

Where was the media hysteria then?
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EKUAg said:




I'd make 3, point 1
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AG 2000' said:

Side note, I noticed a subtle shift yesterday with the WH press conference. The administration's starting to hang this around China's neck.

Trump said something like 'America was rolling along, and now we've been hit with this and it's due to no fault of our own.'

Now you're seeing Congressional leaders referring to this as Wuhan flu (and the leftist hack media calling that 'racist').

It appears the administration is headed down the path of this being China's fault (rightly so).
When you're telling this story again, as long as you're including characterizations from random people you can include the fact that I called the leftist media hack an idiot.
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UTExan said:

japantiger said:

I frankly don't remember when swine flu hit the US. I was living overseas. But the numbers I see on swine flu were over 20k infections and over 1000 dead before anyone reacted 6 months later. If that is the case, why all the hysteria on the medical system being overwhelmed so quickly here with Wuhan virus? If it reached this level without anyone really noticing; it would seem the system has plenty of capacity to handle a substantial outbreak on the order of what hit China (comparatively; we are ~1/4 - 1.5 the size of CH). Is our system less capable now than it was 10 years ago? Obama-care impact?


Their concern is the massive amounts of people who might potentially need hospitalization first (overwhelming the system) and second the number of fatalities among vulnerable populations. Think elderly and homeless folks. The triage would be a nightmare for medical staff, or so I have been told by people tasked with doing it.
So how is that different than in 2009 when they were stacking dead bodies with 20k cases before they reacted? So people just dropped dead randomly with no symptoms and weren't hospitalized?
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Cool picture out of Mongolia.
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japantiger said:

I frankly don't remember when swine flu hit the US. I was living overseas. But the numbers I see on swine flu were over 20k infections and over 1000 dead before anyone reacted 6 months later. If that is the case, why all the hysteria on the medical system being overwhelmed so quickly here with Wuhan virus? If it reached this level without anyone really noticing; it would seem the system has plenty of capacity to handle a substantial outbreak on the order of what hit China (comparatively; we are ~1/4 - 1.5 the size of CH). Is our system less capable now than it was 10 years ago? Obama-care impact?
Simple answer? A Democrat was President then.
Trump will fix it.
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Nuclear Scramjet said:



Cool picture out of Mongolia.
so they visited isolated settlements, and possibly brought the virus with them?
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Teddy Perkins said:

Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)


Why does this show none in San Antonio or Houston?
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TexAgs91 said:

AG 2000' said:

Side note, I noticed a subtle shift yesterday with the WH press conference. The administration's starting to hang this around China's neck.

Trump said something like 'America was rolling along, and now we've been hit with this and it's due to no fault of our own.'

Now you're seeing Congressional leaders referring to this as Wuhan flu (and the leftist hack media calling that 'racist').

It appears the administration is headed down the path of this being China's fault (rightly so).
When you're telling this story again, as long as you're including characterizations from random people you can include the fact that I called the leftist media hack an idiot.
It's been all over twitter since the White House press conference yesterday.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3099003

It's amazing and yet predictable how lefties are so ignorant of history:

* Ebola named after the Ebola river where outbreak began.
* Marburg virus named after Marburg, Germany where it was discovered.
* Hantavirus named after Hanta River in South Korea where outbreak began.
* West Nile, Nile Uganda
* German Measles
* Rock Mountain Spotted Fever, Rocky Mountains
* Lyme Disease, Lyme Connecticut
* Reston ebola, Reston VA

The list goes on....
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Nuclear Scramjet said:



Cool picture out of Mongolia.
If they're isolated, why the hell wouldn't they just leave them alone... This is how the Native Americans got smallpox!
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IrishTxAggie said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



Cool picture out of Mongolia.
If they're isolated, why the hell wouldn't they just leave them alone... This is how the Native Americans got smallpox!


Have you considered that this might be the plan?
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Nuclear Scramjet said:

IrishTxAggie said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



Cool picture out of Mongolia.
If they're isolated, why the hell wouldn't they just leave them alone... This is how the Native Americans got smallpox!


Have you considered that this might be the plan?
They would've gone into the camps in Xinjiang with that philosophy instead of the isolated tribes.
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Agsrback12 said:

Jet Black said:

An illness that is likely to have more of an effect on the elderly and those with compromised immune systems. Sounds like most viruses to me, but yes, lets cancel and close everything. Media driven hysteria.


If you called the flu a different name and updated your news site or twitter each time we had an infection and/or death the S&P 500 would be a penny stock.




What's happening in Iran and Italy right now doesnt happen with the flu.
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Tabasco said:

Teddy Perkins said:

Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)


Why does this show none in San Antonio or Houston?
They tweaked it to just show each state's statistics and not breaking them down by city anymore.
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lunchbox said:




National guard called up to deliver food? These guys never heard of DoorDash?
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Teddy Perkins said:

Tabasco said:

Teddy Perkins said:

Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)


Why does this show none in San Antonio or Houston?
They tweaked it to just show each state's statistics and not breaking them down by city anymore.
Ah, that makes sense... thanks.
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Isn't that place named after a young girl's strange, erotic journey from Milan to Minsk?
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lunchbox said:


Sounds like Cuomo is tired of asshats breaking quarantine.
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Nuclear Scramjet said:



Cool picture out of Mongolia.


Looks like the Asian knockoff of the magnificent 7
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PJYoung said:

Agsrback12 said:

Jet Black said:

An illness that is likely to have more of an effect on the elderly and those with compromised immune systems. Sounds like most viruses to me, but yes, lets cancel and close everything. Media driven hysteria.


If you called the flu a different name and updated your news site or twitter each time we had an infection and/or death the S&P 500 would be a penny stock.




What's happening in Iran and Italy right now doesnt happen with the flu.


Not sure about Iran but Italy has been having issues for years now with the elderly population. Here is a copied and pasted part of a study I found.

Highlights

In the winter seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17, an estimated average of 5,290,000 ILI cases occurred in Italy, corresponding to an incidence of 9%.


More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period.


Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.


Abstract
Objectives
In recent years, Italy has been registering peaks in death rates, particularly among the elderly during the winter season. Influenza epidemics have been indicated as one of the potential determinants of such an excess. The objective of our study was to estimate the influenza-attributable contribution to excess mortality during the influenza seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17 in Italy.



You would expect their population to not withstand a new virus after reading an excerpt from this study.

Conclusions
Over 68,000 deaths were attributable to influenza epidemics in the study period. The observed excess of deaths is not completely unexpected, given the high number of fragile very old subjects living in Italy. In conclusion, the unpredictability of the influenza virus continues to present a major challenge to health professionals and policy makers. Nonetheless, vaccination remains the most effective means for reducing the burden of influenza, and efforts to increase vaccine coverage and the introduction of new vaccine strategies (such as vaccinating healthy children) should be considered to reduce the influenza attributable excess mortality experienced in Italy and in Europe in the last seasons.

So...

Italy has lost an average of 22,000 per year to the flu the past three flu seasons according to that study.
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AgBQ-00 said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



Cool picture out of Mongolia.


Looks like the Asian knockoff of the magnificent 7


All this time we thought the White Walkers were the biggest threat to mankind.
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AgBQ-00 said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



Cool picture out of Mongolia.


Looks like the Asian knockoff of the magnificent 7


You mean the Asian knockoff of the Western knockoff of the Asian original?
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Add Longview to the list.
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AG 2000' said:

houag80 said:

From John's Hopkins University:
Coronavirus
Global Cases: +115,000
Global Deaths: +4,028
USA Cases: +755
USA Deaths: +26

From CDC
USA Deaths so far 2020(General influenza): ~28,000

Things that make you go hmmm.

We're at the end of flu season, whereas we're just starting coronavirus season.

Exponential growth is not our friend.

For perspective, CDC is projecting that by end of May (if not sooner), we will run out of ICU beds in the entirety of the United States due to this.


BS its a new virus remember !!. So how the hell do you know.
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Flu season is 13 weeks. 22,000 deaths over 13 weeks is 241 per day.

Italy had 97 and 133 deaths from COVID19 yesterday and the day before.

On the one hand, that's less than the flu in absolute terms. On the other hand its from a much smaller base of infections and daily cases are still increasing exponentially.
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AgBQ-00 said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



Cool picture out of Mongolia.


Looks like the Asian knockoff of the magnificent 7
Which was the Western knockoff of a samurai movie. We're almost full circle.
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To be fair...can you really build on the perfection of a movie with McQueen and Bronson?
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