China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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Think I called 400 pages. That's about where the corona will end in Texas. Trump was right. Again.
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IrishTxAggie said:

Pretty sure most, if not all, in Texas are related to international travel with the majority being from an Egyptian tour. Not 100% sure, but don't believe I've seen a P2P case in Texas yet. Haven't dug that deep either though.


You're correct. Thus my confusion when I'm told it's widespread and available at local mall.
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aginlakeway said:

So I can get this at my local mall? Are you 100 percent sure?

How widespread is it in Texas? I haven't heard of a single case in many larger cities.

I'm not sure your statements are factually correct.


Several in Houston (6 or seven?)

A new one from Del Webb Sweetgrass in Richmond, Tx (Ft bend co near sugar land) this morning.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.click2houston.com/health/2020/03/07/latest-follow-the-developments-of-the-coronavirus-cases-in-the-houston-area/%3foutputType=amp?fbclid=IwAR0MJWOKIOG2RWhz6okSxLzIRIXYreTLw4-lmg1lZHqWuEyHCQONtP8BlYg

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LaQuica said:

aginlakeway said:

"If you are an individual that has an underlying condition right now, not wait, you should start to distance yourself from the risk: crowds, getting on a long plane trip and, above all, don't get on a cruise ship," Fauci said on "Fox News Sunday."


What's the point if it's already wide spread and you can get it at your local grocery store or mall?


If it is and you pick it up at the mall you will have mild cold symptoms for a few days and then get over it. Some may have already had it and gotten over it without having a clue.

Those in their 70's, already with poor health conditions, and/or living in a nursing facility are the only ones that need to be careful.
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I think Harris/Ft. Bend/Montgomery is actually a tad higher from an article I saw earlier. Another person from Egypt that was on a tour a week later than the others. Leads me to believe there is an employee on the tour that was a super carrier.

Edit:
The 11 number I got was healthcare workers told to say home. My bad
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houag80 said:

Irish, you know that the coronavirus cheerleaders (my opinion) that populate this thread will not be happy until we have 100,000 confirmed cases, 10,000 confirmed deaths, the stock market at 10,000 and Trump out on his a$$. Never ceases to amaze me how so many people can be against their fellow citizens.
Yep.. and they are also stupid enough to lose 1/2 their 401K on top of that. They are waiting to cheat for more deaths and they pray this thing spreads like a grass fire. Sick people all to make sure the president of the US doesn't win again... they are good sheeples and are doing exactly what they have been programmed to do
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Related to international travel I thought.

And again that's not wide spread.

I'm going to grocery store. I'm probably 1,000 times more likely to have a wreck than getting this virus at the store.
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Wendy 1990 said:

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IrishTxAggie said:

So the country that was ground zero for this is beginning to wind down. This country is ~20% of the world's population. All said and done it looks like they'll have less than 4,000 deaths all while having worse health and horrid healthcare compared to the rest of the developed nations.


.00000235294% of their population....Now, back to your next regularly scheduled apocalypse.


Ground zero (metro area of 19M+ people) was under Marshall law (welding homes shut, forcibly taking people with fevers away) to keep it contained.

But, sure.
I think people are hyped up because the videos coming out of China were startling (to us). That's the key, to us, because we are a free society with a superior health system. China is a communist nation where the government runs everything -- including the heath care system. China has the ability to react the way they did without any consequences to the government. People started to think what if that happened here - which would be life altering in the US to have the government welding doors and dragging away people with fevers. Those images helped fuel the panic you are seeing today. I guarantee you this isn't the first time China has responded in this fashion to a health crisis in their country. The internet has allowed us an opportunity to see more of China than in the past.


I understand all of this. I was responding to the poster that used China's rate at which new cases are slowing as some sort of proof it's a media hoax.

The prevailing theory among scientists across the world is that what China did worked and it's the reason numbers are slowing. In fact, China is now experiencing a backflow of new cases from travelers returning home from Italy, etc.

And, no, I'm not advocating Martial law in the US am not a "cheerleader" hoping for my fellow Americans to get sick/die. I do think we need to take the warning signs from Italy, Wuhan, etc. seriously and stop downplaying to the flu though.
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Rock1982 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

So the country that was ground zero for this is beginning to wind down. This country is ~20% of the world's population. All said and done it looks like they'll have less than 4,000 deaths all while having worse health and horrid healthcare compared to the rest of the developed nations.


.00000235294% of their population....Now, back to your next regularly scheduled apocalypse.


My hope is that your are right and this fades.

As do I. But if you believe ANY of the numbers coming out of China, I have some ocean front property in central Texas that I would love to show you!
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dmart90 said:

Rock1982 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

So the country that was ground zero for this is beginning to wind down. This country is ~20% of the world's population. All said and done it looks like they'll have less than 4,000 deaths all while having worse health and horrid healthcare compared to the rest of the developed nations.


.00000235294% of their population....Now, back to your next regularly scheduled apocalypse.


My hope is that your are right and this fades.

As do I. But if you believe ANY of the numbers coming out of China, I have some ocean front property in central Texas that I would love to show you!
What numbers do we go off of then? Want to take the S. Korean numbers? Because their's are better than China's currently I believe and I'll roll with those too for my math.
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I wear a baseball cap and have bad shave
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IrishTxAggie said:

dmart90 said:

Rock1982 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

So the country that was ground zero for this is beginning to wind down. This country is ~20% of the world's population. All said and done it looks like they'll have less than 4,000 deaths all while having worse health and horrid healthcare compared to the rest of the developed nations.


.00000235294% of their population....Now, back to your next regularly scheduled apocalypse.


My hope is that your are right and this fades.

As do I. But if you believe ANY of the numbers coming out of China, I have some ocean front property in central Texas that I would love to show you!
What numbers do we go off of then?
Numbers from honest nations. Then do statistics based on that.
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fullback44 said:

houag80 said:

Irish, you know that the coronavirus cheerleaders (my opinion) that populate this thread will not be happy until we have 100,000 confirmed cases, 10,000 confirmed deaths, the stock market at 10,000 and Trump out on his a$$. Never ceases to amaze me how so many people can be against their fellow citizens.
Yep.. and they are also stupid enough to lose 1/2 their 401K on top of that. They are waiting to cheat for more deaths and they pray this thing spreads like a grass fire. Sick people all to make sure the president of the US doesn't win again... they are good sheeples and are doing exactly what they have been programmed to do


Some of them really don't want that deep down probably. The superficial feeling of pride of being right in a thread some of them are approaching 1,000 posts on take precedence over real world consequences.
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DSAg44 said:

I wear a baseball cap and have bad shave
I caught the reference
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aTmAg said:

IrishTxAggie said:

dmart90 said:

Rock1982 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

So the country that was ground zero for this is beginning to wind down. This country is ~20% of the world's population. All said and done it looks like they'll have less than 4,000 deaths all while having worse health and horrid healthcare compared to the rest of the developed nations.


.00000235294% of their population....Now, back to your next regularly scheduled apocalypse.


My hope is that your are right and this fades.

As do I. But if you believe ANY of the numbers coming out of China, I have some ocean front property in central Texas that I would love to show you!
What numbers do we go off of then?
Numbers from honest nations. Then do statistics based on that.


Irish, in other words you should probably just go off numbers that fit your own narrative that you're crafting. Don't use any number that might suggest the virus might be on a downward trajectory in some places
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IrishTxAggie said:

dmart90 said:

Rock1982 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

So the country that was ground zero for this is beginning to wind down. This country is ~20% of the world's population. All said and done it looks like they'll have less than 4,000 deaths all while having worse health and horrid healthcare compared to the rest of the developed nations.


.00000235294% of their population....Now, back to your next regularly scheduled apocalypse.


My hope is that your are right and this fades.

As do I. But if you believe ANY of the numbers coming out of China, I have some ocean front property in central Texas that I would love to show you!
What numbers do we go off of then? Want to take the S. Korean numbers? Because there's are better than China's currently I believe and I'll roll with those too for my math.


Only the bad ones. Also, ignore how the US flu numbers are whipping this thing's world stats ass.
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There's far more "panic"/over-worrying posts from people saying this is going to be bad, but I see far more of the "i told you so" posts coming from people downplaying it like it's the common flu.
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Proposition Joe said:

There's far more "panic"/over-worrying posts from people saying this is going to be bad, but I see far more of the "i told you so" posts coming from people downplaying it like it's the common flu.


Make no mistake, no matter which way this thing ultimately goes there's gonna be a lot of "I told you so"s on both sides.
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aTmAg said:

IrishTxAggie said:

dmart90 said:

Rock1982 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

So the country that was ground zero for this is beginning to wind down. This country is ~20% of the world's population. All said and done it looks like they'll have less than 4,000 deaths all while having worse health and horrid healthcare compared to the rest of the developed nations.


.00000235294% of their population....Now, back to your next regularly scheduled apocalypse.


My hope is that your are right and this fades.

As do I. But if you believe ANY of the numbers coming out of China, I have some ocean front property in central Texas that I would love to show you!
What numbers do we go off of then?
Numbers from honest nations. Then do statistics based on that.
S. Korea is currently sitting at 50 deaths........in a population of 52MM... Can I use those numbers?
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AgsMyDude said:

Wendy 1990 said:

AgsMyDude said:

IrishTxAggie said:

So the country that was ground zero for this is beginning to wind down. This country is ~20% of the world's population. All said and done it looks like they'll have less than 4,000 deaths all while having worse health and horrid healthcare compared to the rest of the developed nations.


.00000235294% of their population....Now, back to your next regularly scheduled apocalypse.


Ground zero (metro area of 19M+ people) was under Marshall law (welding homes shut, forcibly taking people with fevers away) to keep it contained.

But, sure.
I think people are hyped up because the videos coming out of China were startling (to us). That's the key, to us, because we are a free society with a superior health system. China is a communist nation where the government runs everything -- including the heath care system. China has the ability to react the way they did without any consequences to the government. People started to think what if that happened here - which would be life altering in the US to have the government welding doors and dragging away people with fevers. Those images helped fuel the panic you are seeing today. I guarantee you this isn't the first time China has responded in this fashion to a health crisis in their country. The internet has allowed us an opportunity to see more of China than in the past.


I understand all of this. I was responding to the poster that used China's rate at which new cases are slowing as some sort of proof it's a media hoax.

The prevailing theory among scientists across the world is that what China did worked and it's the reason numbers are slowing. In fact, China is now experiencing a backflow of new cases from travelers returning home from Italy, etc.

And, no, I'm not advocating Marshall law in the US am not a "cheerleader" hoping for my fellow Americans to get sick/die. I do think we need to take the warning signs from Italy, Wuhan, etc. seriously and stop downplaying to the flu though.

It's a minor thing, but Marshall should be Martial (and not Marital!!).
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fullback44 said:

houag80 said:

Irish, you know that the coronavirus cheerleaders (my opinion) that populate this thread will not be happy until we have 100,000 confirmed cases, 10,000 confirmed deaths, the stock market at 10,000 and Trump out on his a$$. Never ceases to amaze me how so many people can be against their fellow citizens.
Yep.. and they are also stupid enough to lose 1/2 their 401K on top of that. They are waiting to cheat for more deaths and they pray this thing spreads like a grass fire. Sick people all to make sure the president of the US doesn't win again... they are good sheeples and are doing exactly what they have been programmed to do
There are some of us that strive to see the true reality of this epidemic. My wife is particularly vulnerable to this virus. I won't lose anything on my 401k as I moved my funds out of stocks on Jan. 27 in spite of all the optimistic projections by my financial advisors. I didn't post about it here because I didn't want others to panic or call me crazy. However, I am already feeling the negative economic impact caused by this virus on my business. I still see a very bumpy ride ahead, but I am optimistic that science and technology will severely blunt the impact on the economy and personal health. Just my two cents.
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rgag12 said:

Proposition Joe said:

There's far more "panic"/over-worrying posts from people saying this is going to be bad, but I see far more of the "i told you so" posts coming from people downplaying it like it's the common flu.


Make no mistake, no matter which way this thing ultimately goes there's gonna be a lot of "I told you so"s on both sides.
I predicted someone would say this.
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Here is the worldwide Covid 19 tracker dashboard from Johns Hopkins for up to date information and map data for active cases and outbreaks.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
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The Gates foundation is stepping up by developing home test kits. This is brilliant. Good to see private organizations stepping up while the government flails

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/gates-funded-program-will-soon-offer-home-testing-kits-for-new-coronavirus/

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wessimo said:

The Gates foundation is stepping up by developing home test kits. This is brilliant. Good to see private organizations stepping up while the government flails

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/gates-funded-program-will-soon-offer-home-testing-kits-for-new-coronavirus/




Yep. Perfect example of why you don't want government running health care. Or much else.
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IrishTxAggie said:

aTmAg said:

IrishTxAggie said:

dmart90 said:

Rock1982 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

So the country that was ground zero for this is beginning to wind down. This country is ~20% of the world's population. All said and done it looks like they'll have less than 4,000 deaths all while having worse health and horrid healthcare compared to the rest of the developed nations.


.00000235294% of their population....Now, back to your next regularly scheduled apocalypse.


My hope is that your are right and this fades.

As do I. But if you believe ANY of the numbers coming out of China, I have some ocean front property in central Texas that I would love to show you!
What numbers do we go off of then?
Numbers from honest nations. Then do statistics based on that.
S. Korea is currently sitting at 50 deaths........in a population of 52MM... Can I use those numbers?

I think that is reasonable. But this thing is just getting started there. I applaud their response. It's been timely and effective so far.
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dmart90 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

aTmAg said:

IrishTxAggie said:

dmart90 said:

Rock1982 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

So the country that was ground zero for this is beginning to wind down. This country is ~20% of the world's population. All said and done it looks like they'll have less than 4,000 deaths all while having worse health and horrid healthcare compared to the rest of the developed nations.


.00000235294% of their population....Now, back to your next regularly scheduled apocalypse.


My hope is that your are right and this fades.

As do I. But if you believe ANY of the numbers coming out of China, I have some ocean front property in central Texas that I would love to show you!
What numbers do we go off of then?
Numbers from honest nations. Then do statistics based on that.
S. Korea is currently sitting at 50 deaths........in a population of 52MM... Can I use those numbers?

I think that is reasonable. But this thing is just getting started there. I applaud their response. It's been timely and effective so far.


Their first patient was January 20th in a religious sect that spread like wildfire within the sect in Daegu. They're over 6wks into this and it appears to be slowing. What do you mean just getting started?
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It's fairly apparent this won't be that serious or as much as a disruption as we feared. But being prepared is never a bad thing.
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fullback44 said:

houag80 said:

Irish, you know that the coronavirus cheerleaders (my opinion) that populate this thread will not be happy until we have 100,000 confirmed cases, 10,000 confirmed deaths, the stock market at 10,000 and Trump out on his a$$. Never ceases to amaze me how so many people can be against their fellow citizens.
Yep.. and they are also stupid enough to lose 1/2 their 401K on top of that. They are waiting to cheat for more deaths and they pray this thing spreads like a grass fire. Sick people all to make sure the president of the US doesn't win again... they are good sheeples and are doing exactly what they have been programmed to do

More deaths = More Democrat voters

The left sees opportunity in every crises.
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And the right doesn't? Give me a ****ing break
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wessimo said:

The Gates foundation is stepping up by developing home test kits. This is brilliant. Good to see private organizations stepping up while the government flails

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/gates-funded-program-will-soon-offer-home-testing-kits-for-new-coronavirus/


I would avoid anything that Gates works on. He's been quoted on a number of occasions (here's one) as wanting to lower the earth's population to protect mother Gaia.

One of his vaccines sterilized large amounts of people in Africa.

Gate's father was a eugenicist and was the head of planned parenthood.There's a reason Gates is pushing his plans so heavily in Africa.

If I'm not mistaken, Gates is an owner of Moderna, who happens to be developing a Vaccine for the Kung Flu (which another one of his organizations owns the patent on). How convenient. I won't be signing up to receive one of these when they hit the market.
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