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Does the Corona 19 cause volcanic diarrhea? Is the general thought here that you won't want to leave your house thus you need 6 months worth of TP but only have 3 weeks of food?

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Yes it can, and vomiting. Those are both not as common though.

Did they buy 6 months of Taco Bell?

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Did they buy 6 months of Taco Bell?

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I've got enough booze for six months to where six months of Taco Bell doesn't sound that unreasonable.

One thing is certain, we won't die because we don't have a clean ass.

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https://regenexx.com/blog/why-i-am-not-concerned-about-the-coronavirus/

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The most accurate data on case fatalities is from the only natural experiment that exists, the Diamond Princess cruise. Why a cruise ship? Because this is a closed environment where we can accurately measure every person who gets sick and know the real number of people who perish based on that exposure.

The cruise ship data shows a fatality rate of 0.85%. All of the people that perished were over 70, which is much more like the seasonal flu. In addition, the ability of the virus to spread was again, not that impressive as only about 20% got the virus. So while this bug is nasty, it's NOT the middle-aged killer that the media has been making it out to be.

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This has been my thought exactly. The media is making this into a killer plague when it is much more like the flu. While I would caveat that statement with it being harder in the body than the flu. I really believe this is a move to try and tank the economy before the election.

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Will this virus bring about positive change by making many companies realize that many workers are more efficient and it is cheaper to work from home. With all the technology today, it seems the large office setting seems outdated for most.

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Would be nice. My wife's workplace is an hour from our house. She's a graphic designer and almost everything she does can be done remotely. Her work has allowed her and her coworkers one work from home day per week. They recently put a new guy over the whole department that does not have a graphic design background. He comes from a dept. that does not have employees working from home. In true new boss, "I'm going to shake things up" fashion, he's questioning why any of them were ever granted this privilege and who OK'd it. He's looking to do away with it because he thinks everyone needs to be supervised. It's ridiculous and outdated. They are all responsible adults.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8086077/Hotel-China-holding-coronavirus-victims-quarantine-collapses.html

A hotel in China used to quarantine those infected with coronavirus has collapsed. If the virus doesn't get you, its the substandard Chinese engineering and construction.

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Around 70 people were trapped after a hotel collapsed in China's eastern Fujian province on Saturday evening, officials said.

Xinjia Hotel in Quanzhou City collapsed around 7.30 pm (11:30 GMT) and at least 23 people had been rescued by 9pm, according to a local government statement.

The 80-room hotel was recently converted to a quarantine facility for people who had recent contact with coronavirus patients, the People's Daily state newspaper reported.

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What was the mortality rate of the elderly on the ship? We are all well aware it is not very dangerous for young healthy adults. It appears to be extremely more lethal for the elderly compared to the flu.

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My assessment a few pages back

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Coronavirus is ultimately going to show large corporations how pointless it is to make employees come into huge offices every ****ing day when they realize there is no loss of productivity and actually an increase in productivity while working from home. Commercial office building space could take a hit over the next few years.

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I absolutely agree with this. Once companies see that corporate employees are almost as productive as they were in the office, you're going to see waves of them cutting costs from eliminating expensive, prime office space. The era of the big skyscraper full of offices and dehumanizing cubicles will hopefully come to an end.

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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Will this virus bring about positive change by making many companies realize that many workers are more efficient and it is cheaper to work from home. With all the technology today, it seems the large office setting seems outdated for most.

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Would be nice. My wife's workplace is an hour from our house. She's a graphic designer and almost everything she does can be done remotely. Her work has allowed her and her coworkers one work from home day per week. They recently put a new guy over the whole department that does not have a graphic design background. He comes from a dept. that does not have employees working from home. In true new boss, "I'm going to shake things up" fashion, he's questioning why any of them were ever granted this privilege and who OK'd it. He's looking to do away with it because he thinks everyone needs to be supervised. It's ridiculous and outdated. They are all responsible adults.

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This idiot as a boss, right? Hopefully, that person has enough sense to tell this guy to leave it alone.

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Bubonic Plague ended up being one of the great economic boons to mid 14th Century Europe. Maybe this one will fix our Social Security problem?

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The other side of that is that it'll usher in socialism much sooner. The olds vote overwhelmingly against liberals. They are the reason that someone like Sanders hasn't already taken over.

You think the SS situation is bad, free college, free daycare, free medical care, free housing, massive wealth redistribution, etc will make it look like a picnic.

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What was the mortality rate of the elderly on the ship? We are all well aware it is not very dangerous for young healthy adults. It appears to be extremely more lethal for the elderly compared to the flu.

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No data from the ship yet but it depending on which mutation you get also can change the mortality rate

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Public health be damned. People want what they want. The people that can make the decisions to cancel Chicago's SouthSide Irish Parade (huge party) or the downtown parade (turning the river green) live in those communities and are ultimately politicians. They will be outcasts if they "ruin" St. Patty's day. Same thing all around the country.

The masses (and businesses) want a party. **** it, give it to them....let the chips fall where they may.

I'll be at home chilling. I've been in those crowds before. I know what I'm missing. What I don't know is how sick I'll get if the infection is in the crowd. Rather not take the chance myself. Everyone else has to make up their own mind.

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I think some people just believe we if we take precautions, that being out in crowds isn't a sentence to illness. I have been out the last two nights and I am taking my son out tonight to True/False. People in the crowds are being careful. That has been my observation. No one wants to get sick. But they also don't want life to end due to fears.

It may get a lot a worse and I will see things differently in 4 weeks (after Pearl Jam), but for now, I am not scared of getting it.

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You're an adult making adult decisions. No worries. I hope you don't get sick.

I've had pneumonia before it knocked my ass down for a full week and the recovery three weeks after was a beating. I wasn't admitted to a hospital but it was touch and go for a day or two.

Everyone is down playing the severity of this saying 98% people recover. While that is true, there is a wide range of "mild cases" between the sniffles and home rest/recovery pneumonia just before being admitted to a hospital.

I'm healthy now but being bed ridden for a day is one thing, being in bed for 7 to 10 days with high fever, sore throat, coughing up phlegm, massive headaches, and explosive diarrhea is not something I'm looking forward to. Especially if there are multiple family members in the house all sick at the same time.


I'm going to avoid that as much as I can for the coming months. If I miss a good party or a concert during that time I'll get over it. Life will go on after all of this passes.

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Coronavirus is ultimately going to show large corporations how pointless it is to make employees come into huge offices every ****ing day when they realize there is no loss of productivity and actually an increase in productivity while working from home. Commercial office building space could take a hit over the next few years.

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I absolutely agree with this. Once companies see that corporate employees are almost as productive as they were in the office, you're going to see waves of them cutting costs from eliminating expensive, prime office space. The era of the big skyscraper full of offices and dehumanizing cubicles will hopefully come to an end.

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The reason they make people come in is that management wants their subordinates in their site. It's mostly an ego thing.

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sawthemoffxx said:

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What was the mortality rate of the elderly on the ship? We are all well aware it is not very dangerous for young healthy adults. It appears to be extremely more lethal for the elderly compared to the flu.

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The paper about the supposed mutation got pulled. Peer review found some issues with the conclusions.

Looks like we have our first case in Montgomery County.

This is why this thing is a bigger deal than normal. The flu is accounted for in our need for ICU beds every year. This disease is not and has a much higher demand for beds. It could quickly overwhelm our healthcare system.

It's not apocalypse level obviously, but this will seriously strain our healthcare system and show every last bit of rot in the pillars holding up society. Every problem where we have been kicking the can down the road may come to light. In the long term this will probably end up being a good thing but the short term pain will be large.

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My assessment a few pages back

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Coronavirus is ultimately going to show large corporations how pointless it is to make employees come into huge offices every ****ing day when they realize there is no loss of productivity and actually an increase in productivity while working from home. Commercial office building space could take a hit over the next few years.

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I absolutely agree with this. Once companies see that corporate employees are almost as productive as they were in the office, you're going to see waves of them cutting costs from eliminating expensive, prime office space. The era of the big skyscraper full of offices and dehumanizing cubicles will hopefully come to an end.

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The reason they make people come in is that management wants their subordinates in their site. It's mostly an ego thing.

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Also, most companies don't know how to manage without negative management styles where they treat employees like prisoners. It's why so many companies stay open even in the face of disaster.

Were does her "conservative" number of assumed cases come from and how is she so confident that it's a conservative number?

Flu tapers off dramatically by April.

This thing is just now getting here. It'll get killed off before it gets started simply by the weather. It'll follow the same pattern as normal flu.

You seem sure of that. Where have you seen that? Everything I have read says they hope that might be the case, but there is no facts to support that.

Think about this...

Chi-coms want to dominate the world. There are 1.6 billion living Chinese; US has 340 million. China can't beat us in a military confrontation, but if they lost 1/3 of their population they would still be the largest country on earth; we lose 1/3 of our people, we would have problems. China controls the economy of the world, as we are finding out right now. Enter Coronavirus; this thing starts in Central China and spreads from there, wiping out large segments of the worlds population. No one knows how to stop this thing, except China....after all, everything started there; how do we know they are telling us the truth about Coronavirus? The worlds population dwindles and China is the largest country left standing.

Just a thought is all...

So the best result would be to get it early in case you need a hospital bed then hope you gain a resistance to it afterwards.

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Looks like we have our first case in Montgomery County.

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Two of the earlier Harris County cases were at Memorial Hermann in the woodlands.

Those thoughts would have been better being left where you found them

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Were does her "conservative" number of assumed cases come from and how is she so confident that it's a conservative number?

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The myriad of studies currently available on the disease so far.

Found who was behind the OldAg89er sock...

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Looks like we have our first case in Montgomery County.

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Montgomery County...Texas?

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Looks like we have our first case in Montgomery County.

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Two of the earlier Harris County cases were at Memorial Hermann in the woodlands.

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Montgomery County Maryland?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wtop.com/montgomery-county/2020/03/montgomery-county-schools-will-remain-open-despite-coronavirus-confirmation/amp/

Montgomery County, Texas according to this:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

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Coronavirus is ultimately going to show large corporations how pointless it is to make employees come into huge offices every ****ing day when they realize there is no loss of productivity and actually an increase in productivity while working from home. Commercial office building space could take a hit over the next few years.

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I absolutely agree with this. Once companies see that corporate employees are almost as productive as they were in the office, you're going to see waves of them cutting costs from eliminating expensive, prime office space. The era of the big skyscraper full of offices and dehumanizing cubicles will hopefully come to an end.

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With Pepsi and Frito-Lay apparently declaring WFH, that will cause peer pressure and a domino effect here in DFW. I fully expect my company will be next at least for "non-essential" jobs. Will be interesting in our case because we keep adding buildings and square footage to our campus with zero thought to WFH policies or even community work space. We are very behind the times when it comes to some things.

My boss is adamantly opposed to WFH and has actually been trying to propose more stringent rules against it. I've argued with him until I'm blue in the face since I have mostly millennials on my teams who expect it. I think he's about to get a lesson in reality. I was already going to ignore his policy anyway, but I'm guessing this is going to scrap his plans with less WFH by the end of it all.

looking at the numbers. I would like to know what the Koreans are doing different than the Italians. Demographics, early testing, treatment protocols. Similar number of cases, vastly different outcomes. Haven't listened or read anything regarding this.

Italy has a very old population and was very slow to respond. Korea has been hyper aggressive.