Rapier108 said:
11 more cases in New York City, all connected to that damn lawyer.
One of the cases is the rabbi of the synagogue he attends, and apparently the members who are supposed to be under quarantine are refusing to do so.
https://abc7ny.com/health/33-confirmed-covid-19-cases-in-new-york-officials-say/5989875/
KorbinDallas said:Cassius said:Rapier108 said:
Vaccine trials to begin in Seattle.
https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccine-clinical-trial-recruitment/281-a33490a2-e3e4-4911-94fc-60473c2d4fe7
Great, this 14 month study that has a 55 year old upper cap on age will save us...
I get that it's a step but it's not a short cut.
Man that sounds not fun hope it works out!third coast.. said:
it is impossible to keep up with this thread but I am able to get through every now and again. We are being quarantined on our ship if it is less than 2 weeks between port visits and not in the same port that we just went to. we had about 18 hours of liberty in rota spain and will be restricted to our ship when we pull in to our next port. no telling when we will be allowed to go back in to another port as things obviously continue to get worse before they get better. no one on my ship has any signs or symptoms, but this is coming from the admiral of EURAFRICOM. I REALLY hope I am able to get off this ship in a reasonable amount of time but then that puts me on an airplane from Europe back to my kids with asthma issues back in the states. UGH.,
third coast.. said:
it is impossible to keep up with this thread but I am able to get through every now and again. We are being quarantined on our ship if it is less than 2 weeks between port visits and not in the same port that we just went to. we had about 18 hours of liberty in rota spain and will be restricted to our ship when we pull in to our next port. no telling when we will be allowed to go back in to another port as things obviously continue to get worse before they get better. no one on my ship has any signs or symptoms, but this is coming from the admiral of EURAFRICOM. I REALLY hope I am able to get off this ship in a reasonable amount of time but then that puts me on an airplane from Europe back to my kids with asthma issues back in the states. UGH.,
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Airlines are burning thousands of gallons of fuel flying empty 'ghost' planes so they can keep their flight slots during the coronavirus outbreak
Airlines have wasted thousands of gallons of fuel running empty "ghost" flights during the coronavirus outbreak because of European rules saying operators can lose their flight slots if they keep their planes on the ground.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-airlines-run-empty-ghost-flights-planes-passengers-outbreak-covid-2020-3?r=US&IR=T&utm_source=reddit.com
Maverick06 said:
Just received an update from our cruise line. They are offering all passengers a $200 onboard credit or the ability to reschedule for a later date with no penalty. Smart move in there part. We will be postponing our trip. We were due to leave on Sunday.
fooz said:Quote:
Airlines are burning thousands of gallons of fuel flying empty 'ghost' planes so they can keep their flight slots during the coronavirus outbreak
Airlines have wasted thousands of gallons of fuel running empty "ghost" flights during the coronavirus outbreak because of European rules saying operators can lose their flight slots if they keep their planes on the ground.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-airlines-run-empty-ghost-flights-planes-passengers-outbreak-covid-2020-3?r=US&IR=T&utm_source=reddit.com
AgResearch said:fooz said:Quote:
Airlines are burning thousands of gallons of fuel flying empty 'ghost' planes so they can keep their flight slots during the coronavirus outbreak
Airlines have wasted thousands of gallons of fuel running empty "ghost" flights during the coronavirus outbreak because of European rules saying operators can lose their flight slots if they keep their planes on the ground.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-airlines-run-empty-ghost-flights-planes-passengers-outbreak-covid-2020-3?r=US&IR=T&utm_source=reddit.com
Maverick06 said:
Yes. But not going now.
Considering that it seems to be less harmful to children, does it really make sense to close schools for extended periods? Maybe close for few days for a deep cleaning and make arrangements for workers over say 50 yrs old. Or is the logic that young people cant be trusted to not touch one another and generally be hygienic? Closing schools already puts pressure on other sectors and services and may even put those others areas at risk.Quote:
From the available data this seems to be harmless in kids. I'm sure plenty of Chinese kids with asthma caught it but it still seems like it is a bunch of nothing in the young.
If you or a loved one needs these, please get a reasonable supply now.Quote:
On Thursday pharmaceutical manufacturer AmeriSource Bergen sent to its pharmacists a list of respiratory medications that it's placing on back order because they are in short supply, The Post has learned.
The $168 billion publicly traded company flagged nebulizer solutions and two types of generic respiratory medications used for asthma and other breathing disorders, sources said. The Valley Forge, Pa.-based company did not return requests for comment.
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Drug supplier Anda Inc., meanwhile, warned its pharmacists about low levels of respiratory drugs and inhalers, as well as antibiotics, alcohol prep pads, face masks and hand sanitizers. Privately held Adna also did not return requests for comment.
Their outreach was intended to encourage pharmacy customers to place orders now for items that may not be available in the near future, Tom D'Angelo owner of Franklin Square Pharmacy told The Post.
Have you considered flying space A with the military? You are active duty- so you would have one of the higher categories. I know it's iffy with leave, but you could try and then do a one way back to where you need to go. Where are you taking leave from? You can look at Rota's space A page. If you need more info, you can PM me.third coast.. said:
it is impossible to keep up with this thread but I am able to get through every now and again. We are being quarantined on our ship if it is less than 2 weeks between port visits and not in the same port that we just went to. we had about 18 hours of liberty in rota spain and will be restricted to our ship when we pull in to our next port. no telling when we will be allowed to go back in to another port as things obviously continue to get worse before they get better. no one on my ship has any signs or symptoms, but this is coming from the admiral of EURAFRICOM. I REALLY hope I am able to get off this ship in a reasonable amount of time but then that puts me on an airplane from Europe back to my kids with asthma issues back in the states. UGH.,
What does this mean?CDub06 said:
We're gonna be dealing with the effects of this for a while.
I find cruising to be fine for the most part but being stuck on a ship involuntarily for an extra two weeks sounds like hell. Its not you have access to the pool, movies at night and soft serve machines. And then you get stuck with the crap pizza and chicken tenders. Ugh.TurkeyBaconLeg said:
I would say that anyone that gets on a cruise ship right now is crazy. Unless you want to potentially have to live on it for the next month or so...
It only takes one person to get sick (and they might not even have coronavirus!) and then the entire ship is banished from docking at any port...
Kids cannot be trusted not to touch each other, lick the slide, and sneeze and fart in someone's face.tysker said:Considering that it seems to be less harmful to children, does it really make sense to close schools for extended periods? Maybe close for few days for a deep cleaning and make arrangements for workers over say 50 yrs old. Or is the logic that young people cant be trusted to not touch one another and generally be hygienic? Closing schools already puts pressure on other sectors and services and may even put those others areas at risk.Quote:
From the available data this seems to be harmless in kids. I'm sure plenty of Chinese kids with asthma caught it but it still seems like it is a bunch of nothing in the young.
Basically I'm wondering are schools, especially colleges where people are supposedly smart and informed, don't seem like they're that much prone to spreading this disease than church services, the gym or the grocery store.
It really doesn't matter that the symptoms are mild among younger people. The problem we're trying to avoid is widespread infection, which will happen when it spreads throughout classrooms to parents and beyond. At that point, the elderly will be at risk whenever they go out to get groceries / meds / etc. If we can't stop the spread of the disease (which will likely require dramatic efforts given the apparent transmissibility of the virus), we're going to end up losing a good chunk of our senior population.tysker said:Considering that it seems to be less harmful to children, does it really make sense to close schools for extended periods? Maybe close for few days for a deep cleaning and make arrangements for workers over say 50 yrs old. Or is the logic that young people cant be trusted to not touch one another and generally be hygienic? Closing schools already puts pressure on other sectors and services and may even put those others areas at risk.Quote:
From the available data this seems to be harmless in kids. I'm sure plenty of Chinese kids with asthma caught it but it still seems like it is a bunch of nothing in the young.
Basically I'm wondering are schools, especially colleges where people are supposedly smart and informed, don't seem like they're that much prone to spreading this disease than church services, the gym or the grocery store.
Pj's chart is misleading. That's not the rate the virus is spreading. It's the number of new cases discovered. Those "new" cases could be people that have had the virus for several days or a couple of weeks.the last of the bohemians said:
So Spain is spreading at 1.35 rate to total cases per day.
Applied to US we will be at around 1500 cases next week. At the China rate we will be at around 4000 cases. Will try to do some other baselines...
queso1 said:
I need someone to explain something to me. If this has a lower death rate than flu (or even rightly the same), if it's nothing really to worry about, then why are we cancelling all these events like concerts and business conventions? Why are companies canceling air travel? Why did univ of Washington shut down. I don't remember anything getting shutdown in any past event like SARS, h1n1 or whatever.
Either Karens are causing mass panic or we are not being told what is happening.
The CFR/IFR is not the metric which is causing some of us the greatest concern. I've stated before that could be zero, as in you R0 (are naught) gonna die from this, and I would still be equally concerned.queso1 said:
I need someone to explain something to me. If this has a lower death rate than flu (or even rightly the same), if it's nothing really to worry about, then why are we cancelling all these events like concerts and business conventions? Why are companies canceling air travel? Why did univ of Washington shut down. I don't remember anything getting shutdown in any past event like SARS, h1n1 or whatever.
Either Karens are causing mass panic or we are not being told what is happening.
