I still think it is low. Much closer, but still low.
China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission
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They tapped into that super secret Chinese database that has the real Coronavirus statistics.. Remember when a screenshot of that was all over twitter last month?
Bruce Almighty said:Boo Weekley said:cisgenderedAggie said:lead said:. 2.6MM??daggertx said:
Yeah, that's gotta be wrong
May have been covered and I just missed it, but how are there so damn many in Italy? Seems random as hell
Italy is the biggest tourist destination for the Chinese. I spent two weeks there this summer and every city was full of chinese.
I feel like Singapore wins. When I was there, tons of chinese tourists..which makes sense due to proximity. I loved Singapore. Wish I could go back every year.
oh, yes, Singapore does.
But in Europe, France wins, not Italy. When I went to Spain, there were quite a few as well... many on shopping tours. Italy Fashion week does get quite a few Chinese tourists.. and that was a problem.
https://www.nielsen.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/05/outbound-chinese-tourism-and-consumption-trends.pdf
makes sense that things are trickling in though. Give it another 2 weeks and should be much better. (hopefully)
That video would be much more concerning if it were in China and taken today.
We are starting to get items trickling back in slowly but surely. Just taking time now that the factories are reopened.
That video would be much more concerning if it were in China and taken today.
We are starting to get items trickling back in slowly but surely. Just taking time now that the factories are reopened.
swimmerbabe11 said:Bruce Almighty said:Boo Weekley said:cisgenderedAggie said:lead said:. 2.6MM??daggertx said:
Yeah, that's gotta be wrong
May have been covered and I just missed it, but how are there so damn many in Italy? Seems random as hell
Italy is the biggest tourist destination for the Chinese. I spent two weeks there this summer and every city was full of chinese.
I feel like Singapore wins. When I was there, tons of chinese tourists..which makes sense due to proximity. I loved Singapore. Wish I could go back every year.
oh, yes, Singapore does.
But in Europe, France wins, not Italy. When I went to Spain, there were quite a few as well... many on shopping tours.
https://www.nielsen.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/05/outbound-chinese-tourism-and-consumption-trends.pdf
Hopefully this destroys Chinese tourism and the rest of the world can go back to enjoying our vacations!
BigN--00 said:
I still think it is low. Much closer, but still low.
No way. The global counts were at 95K this afternoon.
Ol_Ag_02 said:swimmerbabe11 said:Bruce Almighty said:Boo Weekley said:cisgenderedAggie said:lead said:. 2.6MM??daggertx said:
Yeah, that's gotta be wrong
May have been covered and I just missed it, but how are there so damn many in Italy? Seems random as hell
Italy is the biggest tourist destination for the Chinese. I spent two weeks there this summer and every city was full of chinese.
I feel like Singapore wins. When I was there, tons of chinese tourists..which makes sense due to proximity. I loved Singapore. Wish I could go back every year.
oh, yes, Singapore does.
But in Europe, France wins, not Italy. When I went to Spain, there were quite a few as well... many on shopping tours.
https://www.nielsen.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/05/outbound-chinese-tourism-and-consumption-trends.pdf
Hopefully this destroys Chinese tourism and the rest of the world can go back to enjoying our vacations!
You mean you don't like being hit in the head with selfie sticks, pushed/shoved, and have every bit of your personal space invaded?
Mr.Infectious said:Quote:
Please... I'm pretty sure that ship sailed with the invention of twitter. I for one don't get my serious news from twitter or Facebook. It's mostly just entertainment.
That's not entertainment....It's official page and he's posing for that pic. So much fail from a campaign/PR perspective.
A couple of House Dems and two Senators met with Iranian officials in the past month, including a couple who have died in the past week.
Don't really blame him.
That's surprising, because when I was in Europe, there were so many more Chinese in Italy than in France. Venice was insane. There were more Asians that white people. Even the smaller places like Cinque Terre were full of them.
Apparently now is a great time to see the world if you want to avoid Chinese tourists. I believe they are considered the worst tourists pretty consistently around the world.
Perfect description of them.Quote:
You mean you don't like being hit in the head with selfie sticks, pushed/shoved, and have every bit of your personal space invaded?
KorbinDallas said:
Apparently now is a great time to see the world if you want to avoid Chinese tourists. I believe they are considered the worst tourists pretty consistently around the world.
There are several European countries that say the same about Americans.
That's why you always say you're from Texas. They often seem to like Texans better.IrishTxAggie said:KorbinDallas said:
Apparently now is a great time to see the world if you want to avoid Chinese tourists. I believe they are considered the worst tourists pretty consistently around the world.
There are several European countries that say the same about Americans.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Bruce Almighty said:
That's surprising, because when I was in Europe, there were so many more Chinese in Italy than in France. Venice was insane. There were more Asians that white people. Even the smaller places like Cinque Terre were full of them.
You shut your mouth. Cinque Terra is on my list of places I want to see before I die. Now you're telling me the Chinese ****ed that up too? What's next, Chinese people in New Zealand?
The Chinese are today what Americans were 20-30 years ago. Americans have gotten a lot better with traveling.
This whole thing is laughable. How many people died of common flu this year? I'll bet my house it's more than ever dies from coronavirus in the USA.
Oh and I'd ridicule the cdc that dropped off infected people at a mall but last time I said CDC was politicized trash I was called an antivaxxer and banned by staff for being "aggressive" even tho I insulted no one and another poster called me garbage.
Oh and I'd ridicule the cdc that dropped off infected people at a mall but last time I said CDC was politicized trash I was called an antivaxxer and banned by staff for being "aggressive" even tho I insulted no one and another poster called me garbage.
That's how I felt to. It's beautiful, but had an Epcot feel to it. Full of bad food, cheap gift shops and way to crowded.
IrishTxAggie said:KorbinDallas said:
Apparently now is a great time to see the world if you want to avoid Chinese tourists. I believe they are considered the worst tourists pretty consistently around the world.
There are several European countries that say the same about Americans.
I'm aware that's how it used to be, but now that Chinese tourism has increased so much I pretty sure we Americans aren't the most reviled anymore.
Cy_Tolliver said:
This whole thing is laughable. How many people died of common flu this year? I'll bet my house it's more than ever dies from coronavirus in the USA.
Oh and I'd ridicule the cdc that dropped off infected people at a mall but last time I said CDC was politicized trash I was called an antivaxxer and banned by staff for being "aggressive" even tho I insulted no one and another poster called me garbage.
Edit: removed my commentary on argument
This is the same argument made dozens of times previously on this thread. I'm sure someone will be happy to tell you why this virus is different than the flu
Approx 32-45million with the flu from Oct-February, somewhere between 18-46,000 died.Cy_Tolliver said:
This whole thing is laughable. How many people died of common flu this year? I'll bet my house it's more than ever dies from coronavirus in the USA.
Oh and I'd ridicule the cdc that dropped off infected people at a mall but last time I said CDC was politicized trash I was called an antivaxxer and banned by staff for being "aggressive" even tho I insulted no one and another poster called me garbage.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
The official global count is at 95,000. If you think that China and Iran are being honest, or even that the US has anything close to an accurate count then you are delusional. Based on the mortality rate out of South Korea the total infected number has to be way higher. The other choice is to assume this thing has a 3.4% mortality rate, which is not good either.
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Or that the mortality rate is much higher in places where people do not have even moderate healthcare available versus places like South Korea where they can get reasonable healthcare? I don't think we have accurate numbers either but you can't use fatality rates in one country to extrapolate to the infected count in another.
China put 100 million people on lockdown because of a laughable flu
Chinese are ruining vacations the world over. Terrible culture. Hell, they somehow managed to ruin our glacier hike in Iceland.
Very few people ever die from the flu. What kills people is the opportunistic infections that strike when the flu lowers your immunity.Tibbers said:
You mean like how the flu kills people?
While I can't prove it, I think it was an opportunistic infection that destroyed my thyroid. I had the flu and after about 8 to 10 days, it had gone. Then a few days later, I got something else. By the time it was over, I was starting to see symptoms that I later learned were because of my thyroid no longer working.
Get a large bag of rice and a large bag of beans.cone said:
not if it means keeping food in the stores
One thing is certain. If the outbreak is not controlled, a 1-2% death rate would be devastating. It's odd tha mostt ppl don't seem to grasp the potential for a disaster No one wants.
No problem. I didn't take it as being offensive.UncoverAg00 said:eric76 said:I'm 65 but not dangerous behind the wheel -- I don't drive fast enough to be dangerous.UncoverAg00 said:Aust Ag said:
Has anyone heard anywhere where healthy middle aged folks or kids died from this?
There are outlier cases, but the main demographic is like 65+.
Still, while slow and dangerous behind the wheel, they can still serve a purpose.
I'm not making fun of your age, sir. It's a reference to a very stupid movie. I didn't intend to offend.
. Your first statement is true for a host of diseases, including coronavirus.eric76 said:Very few people ever die from the flu. What kills people is the opportunistic infections that strike when the flu lowers your immunity.Tibbers said:
You mean like how the flu kills people?
While I can't prove it, I think it was an opportunistic infection that destroyed my thyroid. I had the flu and after about 8 to 10 days, it had gone. Then a few days later, I got something else. By the time it was over, I was starting to see symptoms that I later learned were because of my thyroid no longer working.
I just bought a gallon of hibiclens. Thanks for the recommendation.
If we could open the bathroom door and then wash our hands, that would be an improvement.YouBet said:
Got behind on this thread. Two things that no one will care about:
1. Most conferences in my business have been cancelled.
2. My #1 pet peeve of bathroom doors that open inward instead of outward has hit another level with this. Should be outlawed. I should never have to touch a door handle to get out of a bathroom. All you Aggie builders that have done this are dead to me.
I generally like to leave bathroom doors open, anyway. You just need to make sure you don't have a dog that likes to drink out of the crapper.
The local Dairy Queen just has an air blow hand dryer.coastsrs said:YouBet said:
Got behind on this thread. Two things that no one will care about:
1. Most conferences in my business have been cancelled.
2. My #1 pet peeve of bathroom doors that open inward instead of outward has hit another level with this. Should be outlawed. I should never have to touch a door handle to get out of a bathroom. All you Aggie builders that have done this are dead to me.
You know you can use the paper towel you dried your hands off with to grab the pull right? I do it in one clean sweep and toss to the bin. I've never seen a pisser without a trash can at the door.
Edit: code has a lot to do with swings and ADA. We can only do so much
.claym711 said:
One thing is certain. If the outbreak is not controlled, a 1-2% death rate would be devastating. It's odd tha mostt ppl don't seem to grasp the potential for a disaster No one wants.
And what will raise that 1-2% to 3-4%(or higher) is if the cases come in faster than the healthcare system can deal with them. Commercial hospitals don't keep large numbers of empty beds, especially the ones needed for ICU and other serious patients. So if hospital trips increase by a large percentage it can cause major issues. Not to mention if Dr.s and nurses, first responders and other staff get quarantined Or sick themselves.
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