"Climate Change"

https://fortune.com/2020/03/03/coronavirus-us-test/

Tests completed/population:

• US 472 / 327 million
• UK 13,525 / 66 million
• Italy 23,000 / 60 million
• Korea 121,000 / 51 million

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VaultingChemist said:

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How many people on this thread have actually been quarantined at some point in their life?

Blue star this post if you have ever been quarantined.

FTR, I spent five days in a hospital bed with no visitors for possibly being infected with typhoid. I was bored out of mind even with a TV.

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Anyone treated with radioactive iodine - example thyroid cancer - is quarantined 3-5 days and everything they touch is discarded through haz mat procedures. Most major hospitals have a few rooms set up for this.

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They no longer do this for thyroid cancer patients. They're sent home with common sense instructions to avoid close contact with people for five days. My understanding is that the old way of handling this put hospital workers at needless risk. Unfortunately I know this from recent experience.

I Have Spoken said:

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I don't get why people think any government could really be equipped to handle this type of issue.

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This. Governments can't keep human sized people from crossing their borders in one way or another but people think they can stop a virus.

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cisgenderedAggie said:

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Virus is too small for a surgical mask to filter out, that much is true. Surgical masks are for keeping your sputum in.

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For comparison, if the virus was the size of a softball, the holes in the N95 mask would be large enough to let a basketball pass through.

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But is the issue the size of the virus, or the size of the water or vapor barriers on which the virus is hitching a ride?

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The issue is primarily the size of the water droplets that are much larger on which the virus is hitching a ride. But depending on the temperature and humidity, the virus can be floating free.

How many virus particles does it take to cause disease? Nobody knows.

For all of the money the government is taking from us and spending on ****, you would hope they could mount an effort a tad bit better than what amounts to turning in a college project that was obviously done the night before.

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I don't buy that the whistleblower doc wasn't offed. He levied heavy criticism and said that this got out of hand due to suppression of free speech. He and his associates were put down by the CCP. I'd bet money on it.

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I think you may not have the best view of the situation.
1) Wuhan is not Xi's powerbase, he may have chopped off the head of the snake, but he still needs the support of the middle level officials.
2) The most they will do is censor him. Killing him in an outbreak causes everyone to be upset. Deal with him a few months after the outbreak and nobody cares.
3) He is a public figure (Think Sandman or Hogg). If they want to deal with him they would first send him somewhere remote. Exile first and then thing happen.
4) They don't "kill" dissidents anymore. They lock you up in a psych ward, send you to free gulag, or send your family those and have your kids sent to the orphanages or the mentally ill.
It is always the order of fine->punish->Exile->execute.
He doesn't fall that far into the execute scale. Plus, the crisis is somewhat beneficial to Xi, so why tarnish your good name?

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KorbinDallas said:

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Japan says they may postpone the summer Olympic Games

https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/tokyo-olympics-games-can-be-pushed-to-end-of-2020-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-japans-olympic-minister-says/

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Oh man, this is going to screw up all the athletes steroid cycles.

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Hahahahahaha bet you we won't be seeing many records broken this year.

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You know, that would be an interesting bet to take. I wonder if 538 would write a piece on it.

Well this is one way to get it into the school systems...had to be the Rio Grande Valley too...

https://valleycentral.com/news/local/la-joya-isd-monitoring-students-who-visited-sa-mall?fbclid=IwAR3X-SZ8znr0um7KOj30gHM8H4CPH6BGK3S2lFIEAeGalp9GUHozO9lYko4

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La Joya ISD monitoring students who visited SA mall

According to a statement, the school district says a group of students traveled to Round Rock for a competition on the weekend of February 29th trough March 2nd.

The statement goes on to say the students had lunch at the North Star Mall on Monday March 2nd. Officials in San Antonio say one woman who tested positive for COVID-19 was in the same mall over the weekend.

The district says officials with the Hidalgo County Health Department were immediately notified and were informed that none of the students or staff members were in direct contact or at risk at any point.

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UncoverAg00 said:

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I think the only thing not discussed are how this may be planted here by an alien race to clear us out before settling this planet for themselves.

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Well, another thing I haven't seen discussed is if this is the first of the plagues mentioned in Revelations. Maybe it has on the R&P board?

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The Bible says the following will occur before the Abomination of Desolation:

• World embracing deceptive Christianity - starting to see this now, Churches welcoming homosexual marriage
• Wars on a scale not experienced in history
• Famine on a global scale - could happen if Sanders is elected
• Disease and epidemics will plague the world - Corona virus
• Jewish priests will begin animal sacrifices again

All these events will result in roughly 2 billion deaths world wide.

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I'm good with a religious discussion but maybe this conversation is best had in a separate thread. You know how it gets when the R&P folks show up on a non-R&P thread.

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The problem with that line of thought is that you exclude people whose epistemology runs counter to orthodoxy. Now if one believes that Covid-19 had its genesis in a Wuhan wet market, it would be interesting to note how many Levitical laws were violated in Chinese hygiene and food preparation. Conversely, if one reads the Book of Revelation and other prophetic writings in the canon of scripture accepted Protestant America today, there are also indicators of plague and pestilence. One cannot simply relegate such a large segment of the population to a corner because one disagrees with their worldview.

We are actually getting product from China now and a few manufactures said they are back up to full speed. I really do not believe it but it is China so if they want to save their economy I can see them forcing people back to work.

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We are actually getting product from China now and a few manufactures said they are back up to full speed. I really do not believe it but it is China so if they want to save their economy I can see them forcing people back to work.

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You may not fully understand my passive aggressive comment because I don't believe I've seen you post much. The reason I made the comment is because I've been saying since about Feb. 10th-ish that my plants in the mainland were back open and I had cargo on ships headed for N. America from Zhuhai (Port of Gaolan) and posters told me that I was just believing the Chinese government and didn't know what my own plant and employees were doing.

I remember being in NYC and asking the young girl behind the deli counter register if they would open on Christmas and she immediately responded with "We're Asian; we're open everyday."

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Damn. It kills you twice?

Posting this FYI. This actually affects my mom and aunt who are on this ship.

https://abc13.com/5982218/

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HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- The outbreak of COVID-19, better known as coronavirus, has caused a Galveston-based cruise liner to divert course away from its original destinations in the Caribbean.

The Carnival cruise ship Freedom was bound for Jamaica and Grand Cayman. On Tuesday, the company confirmed it was diverting course to the Key West Naval Yard in Florida.


In a statement by Carnival, it elected to make the change this week given uncertainty over policies with the countries involved:

We are implementing some itinerary changes on voyages scheduled to call on Grand Cayman and Jamaica this week. A number of Caribbean destinations continue to work through their policies with regards to cruise ship visits. And while we are following all U.S. CDC and World Health Organization screening protocols and guidelines, we want to avoid any possibility of a visit to a destination where there is uncertainty or we risk being turned away.

To be clear, there is no health situation on board to trigger this concern, but we are making this change to avoid even the possibility of a disruption. We understand some guests will be disappointed and trust they will understand that this decision is being made to protect their vacation and maximize their experience with us.

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Two more deaths announced in Washington. At least one connected to the nursing home. Odds are the other is as well, but none of the articles I've seen have said it.

Of new cases, two are unknown exposure. The rest all are connected to the nursing home (visitors/staff/family of residents).

https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/7th-coronavirus-death-reported-in-puget-sound-region

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Two more deaths announced in Washington. At least one connected to the nursing home. Odds are the other is as well, but none of the articles I've seen have said it.

Of new cases, two are unknown exposure. The rest all are connected to the nursing home (visitors/staff/family of residents).

https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/7th-coronavirus-death-reported-in-puget-sound-region

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Postman told me a Postman died of Kung Flu in Washington.

https://www.cbs17.com/community/health/coronavirus/wake-county-resident-becomes-ncs-first-confirmed-case-of-coronavirus-governor-says/

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RALEIGH, N.C. (WNCN) A person from Wake County has tested positive for novel coronavirus, the governor's office said.

The test, conducted by North Carolina State Laboratory of Public Health, is presumptively positive and will be confirmed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lab.

The person, who had traveled to Washington state, is doing well and is in isolation at home, the governor's office said.

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IrishTxAggie said:

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Remember when we were told manufacturing and shipping wasn't happening? What was that? Like three days ago?

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Grad student reported today that is friends in Shanghai are back at work. Offices are at 50% capacity.

Rapier108 said:

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Two more deaths announced in Washington. At least one connected to the nursing home. Odds are the other is as well, but none of the articles I've seen have said it.

Of new cases, two are unknown exposure. The rest all are connected to the nursing home (visitors/staff/family of residents).

https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/7th-coronavirus-death-reported-in-puget-sound-region

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JJMt said:

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Do they know how it got to the nursing home?

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Not that I've seen, but since the one of the first people to be diagnosed with it was an employee, that would be the most likely.

Of course, it could have also been brought in by a visitor and spread from there.

Assisted living, nursing homes, Del Webb communities, etc are going to be death traps for this thing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/business/china-coronavirus-surveillance.html

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HANGZHOU, China As China encourages people to return to work despite the coronavirus outbreak, it has begun a bold mass experiment in using data to regulate citizens' lives by requiring them to use software on their smartphones that dictates whether they should be quarantined or allowed into subways, malls and other public spaces.

But a New York Times analysis of the software's code found that the system does more than decide in real time whether someone poses a contagion risk. It also appears to share information with the police, setting a template for new forms of automated social control that could persist long after the epidemic subsides.

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Grad Student reported that this app is what allows you to go out and such...You input data and tell it you are healthy or not.

He said it is tied to your money account...like apple pay or pay pal.

You tell the app you are healthy, record temps, etc... but if you purchase things for sickness (like medicine) it flags you based on your purchases.

JJMt said:

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Do they know how it got to the nursing home?

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It's in the general population now. Has been for weeks.

I Have Spoken said:

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I don't get why people think any government could really be equipped to handle this type of issue.

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Exactly. The most authoritative and controlling government couldn't contain this. How could we?

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/business/china-coronavirus-surveillance.html

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HANGZHOU, China As China encourages people to return to work despite the coronavirus outbreak, it has begun a bold mass experiment in using data to regulate citizens' lives by requiring them to use software on their smartphones that dictates whether they should be quarantined or allowed into subways, malls and other public spaces.

But a New York Times analysis of the software's code found that the system does more than decide in real time whether someone poses a contagion risk. It also appears to share information with the police, setting a template for new forms of automated social control that could persist long after the epidemic subsides.

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Grad Student reported that this app is what allows you to go out and such...You input data and tell it you are healthy or not.

He said it is tied to your money account...like apple pay or pay pal.

You tell the app you are healthy, record temps, etc... but if you purchase things for sickness (like medicine) it flags you based on your purchases.

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SMH they are too new styled.
Go to a shop in China, ask for the generic name of the medicine, pay in cash. No questions asked or recieved.

Awesome...Wake County...where we live. Was just a matter of time though ..as is it will be for most/all places.