China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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cisgenderedAggie
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I suppose I read it as describing a separate issue from the previously eluded to manufacturing issue.

Still think it underscores the absurdity of not just releasing the primer sequences and letting labs develop their assay from the get go.
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Zemira said:

Wtf is the CDC doing?????

I gave them the benefit of the doubt last week. This week they have absolutely screwed any sort of credibility they have and it's only Monday.
This is the part where preppers get their math right. Sooner or later someone royally screws up.
Quick someone order the M80 gas masks!
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And yet another dead in WA:

wbt5845
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So I have yet to post on this thread, but I got a simple question.

The virus is apparently now out in the population - people with it can yet to have symptoms and still be contagious. Why are they quarenteening people? There are likely thousands of infected people out there walking around, passing it on.
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cisgenderedAggie said:

Hope this isn't real....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-lab-for-coronavirus-test-kits-may-contaminated-report.amp

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The Trump administration has reportedly ordered an investigation into a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) lab in Atlanta that was in charge of assembling coronavirus test kits after a scientist with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) raised concerns that the lab itself may be "contaminated," possibly leading to faulty test kits, according to reports.


If true, talk about perfect storm of disastrous error at the exact wrong time.


All that talk about full containment and cases going down was BS so time to shift focus on placing the blame on CDC (which they deserve).
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Shanked Punt said:




The feds are really going to have to step up and cover any and all cost related to coronavirus. This is just insane.

South Korea had to mandate that illegal immigrants not be reported to immigration authorities by hospitals to encourage their participation in testing.
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Shanked Punt said:




The feds are really going to have to step up and cover any and all cost related to coronavirus. This is just insane.
This is stupid.
Do you just post crap without thinking?

What if he had an HSA and hadn't reached his deductible?

And you really want to wait 9 months for an MRI?

The same people who are criticizing the CDC want government run health care? How moronic is that??
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k2aggie07 said:


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Detaining people /= hospitalizing patients.

As noted above King county WA working with a hotel/motel to house infected isnt the same thing as patients needing medical care. Its about containment, not illness. This makes one think we're preparing to keep the generally healthy infected out of hospitals so as not overwhelm the system like appears t be happening in SK.
Yes agreed. I was just pointing out that we can't look to Singapore or SK to answer "how many people need to be hospitalized" cuz theyre just hospitalizing everyone as a containment measure. And apparently in SK this isn't working out so well because they already don't have enough beds. They've said they're going to look to mobilizing stadiums and the like for treatment.

If - if - the Italy numbers are hospitalization for clinical reasons, that really sucks.
Most definitely. Luckily in the US we should be able to learn from other country's handling and more importantly the mishandling

eta: also Americans are flexible and innovative by nature so I'm sure we'll come up with some pretty sneaky smart ways to help our fellow citizens in sneaky smart ways
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After reading the thread and trying to corroborate, I don't think there any truth to that post about CDC not communicating updates. Just some ******* full of *****..
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wbt5845 said:

So I have yet to post on this thread, but I got a simple question.

The virus is apparently now out in the population - people with it can yet to have symptoms and still be contagious. Why are they quarenteening people? There are likely thousands of infected people out there walking around, passing it on.


In an attempt to slow the spread, not stop it. It may be a fool's mission, but it would be any more foolish to simply throw up your hands and let it rip through. That's a sure way to overload the hospital systems.
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Sheez. More.
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AG 2000' said:

wessimo said:

CDC has been getting hammered in the media and elsewhere for the pitiful number of tests they have conducted, allowing the coronavirus to spread undetected and unchecked.

Solution?

Stop reporting test numbers.

This is our government at work.


Not a good look. At all.
Or maybe their number were incorrect, and they are changing.
Lets at least wait 48 hours before screaming coverup.
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deddog said:

AG 2000' said:

wessimo said:

CDC has been getting hammered in the media and elsewhere for the pitiful number of tests they have conducted, allowing the coronavirus to spread undetected and unchecked.

Solution?

Stop reporting test numbers.

This is our government at work.


Not a good look. At all.
Or maybe their number were incorrect, and they are changing.
Lets at least wait 48 hours before screaming coverup.
That's not how this thread works.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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deddog said:

AG 2000' said:

wessimo said:

CDC has been getting hammered in the media and elsewhere for the pitiful number of tests they have conducted, allowing the coronavirus to spread undetected and unchecked.

Solution?

Stop reporting test numbers.

This is our government at work.


Not a good look. At all.
Or maybe their number were incorrect, and they are changing.
Lets at least wait 48 hours before screaming coverup.


I think it's bull**** from I guy that doesn't know what he's looking at.
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But that would ruin the coverup narrative.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others
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*note to self* the CDC boondoggle machine has coerced poster 'deddog' and is attempting to infiltrate F16
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UncoverAg00 said:

lunchbox said:

King County in Washington purchasing a hotel to assist with quarantines and treatment...




China welds people in, America buys new property.

I am sure its not "new".

How many 100-120 unit exterior corridor Motel 6/Sleep Inn/Days Inn are we going to need? Can you cram 3 patients in each room? Do you get to choose your roommates?


That just sounds like hell on earth. I'll take my chances at home.
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cisgenderedAggie said:

I suppose I read it as describing a separate issue from the previously eluded to manufacturing issue.

Still think it underscores the absurdity of not just releasing the primer sequences and letting labs develop their assay from the get go.
The CDC's own pandemic game plan is to slow roll the news coming about in any emerging situation.

Their desire to control testing and results is part of their response plan.

The question is, was the test kit screw up incompetence or intentional?
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Lets at least wait 48 hours before screaming coverup.


Do we have to wait to scream incompetence? That seems like a no brainer.....
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I learnt last week that imgur was pronounced "Image-er" . I always wondered what imgooor was.
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Mr.Infectious said:


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Lets at least wait 48 hours before screaming coverup.


Do we have to wait to scream incompetence? That seems like a no brainer.....

it's government. Of course they are slow, bureaucratic and incompetent.
But they didn't update numbers, or took down the number for a day, and OMG it's a coverup.
Maybe the Russians did it?
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Let me know if anyone wants to party in Seattle. On my way there. I'll be atop one of the hotels in downtown dancing like the scene in Independence Day.
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deddog said:

I learnt last week that imgur was pronounced "Image-er" . I always wondered what imgooor was.


Also be sure to pronounce the "g" right... people go ape **** over that.
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You're talking to Shanked Punt.

That's why.
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Shanked Punt said:




The feds are really going to have to step up and cover any and all cost related to coronavirus. This is just insane.


Why are the feds responsible? Why wouldn't your insurance pay for it just like any other issue?
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Mr.Infectious said:

UncoverAg00 said:

lunchbox said:

King County in Washington purchasing a hotel to assist with quarantines and treatment...




China welds people in, America buys new property.

I am sure its not "new".

How many 100-120 unit exterior corridor Motel 6/Sleep Inn/Days Inn are we going to need? Can you cram 3 patients in each room? Do you get to choose your roommates?


That just sounds like hell on earth. I'll take my chances at home.
If you include the family-owned, one-off motels, Houston has endless possibilities.
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Worrisome? More people die from the flu every day and no one cares. You're just stirring up **** because you hate Trump. This is all over blown.
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Already seen several articles like this - people afraid to get tested or quarantined due to potential costs. Convenient excuse to have Medicare for All now. Never let a crisis go to waste.
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MetoliusAg said:

crud. Sorry to hear this.



We have it here in WA state with 2 confirmed fatalities. But more worrisome are WA state's multiple other cases that the authorities are not certain how or who was the carrier.
Were you this worried about the flu? Or other more deadly diseases? Just curious.
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Basically everyone in the country and on this thread who hates Trump with a passion is trying to stir this up to be more than it is.

Everyone else realizes that it is overblown overhyped and they are working on it.

There are over 341 million people in our country. This is barely even affected 30 people here yet. And one of the last reports five were elderly.

People calm the **** down
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Please, either come to the thread to ameliorate ignorance - no shame in not knowing things - or go post somewhere else about how this is the flu and everyone should stop panicking.
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annie88 said:

Basically everyone in the country and on this thread who hates Trump with a passion is trying to stir this up to be more than it is.

Everyone else realizes that it is overblown overhyped and they are working on it.

There are over 341 million people in our country. This is barely even affected 30 people here yet. And one of the last reports five were elderly.

People calm the **** down
But I want the thread to hit 1k pages, and I will vote for Trump over the communists anyway.
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annie88 said:

Basically everyone in the country and on this thread who hates Trump with a passion is trying to stir this up to be more than it is.

Everyone else realizes that it is overblown overhyped and they are working on it.

There are over 341 million people in our country. This is barely even affected 30 people here yet. And one of the last reports five were elderly.

People calm the **** down
I generally side with the "not as big of a deal crowd" but posts like these are just as annoying as the doomsday posts. Most of us are in here trying to get up to date news on this thing, not hear people ***** at each other about political aspects. Thanks.
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98Ag99Grad said:

Houston company claims to have a vaccine ready: vaccine

First step of a long process if true.


There are a half dozen companies hav claimed to have a vaccine, only time will tell
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