JJMt said:

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Horrific numbers for South Korea and Italy. I notice that Spain, France, Germany, and possibly the UK are also starting to go exponential. I guess that's not too surprising given their proximity to Italy.

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wessimo said:

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Great article explaining CDC's bungling of this outbreak so far:

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STATEWIDE ALERT- Hospital in Plano, Texas has confirmed a case of corona Virus within the Hospital. Check updates : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG48ENgCEAAIDl9. .jpg" /> please visit this link for more information about how to keep yourself safe. Please contact the health center if you exhibit flu-like symptoms. CLICK THIS LINK to learn more about the case and see where else it is spreading.

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jxs40 said:

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Report from the front lines at HEB. Parking lot packed. Bread, beer and milk still plentiful. Limits placed on the amount of lysol and purell an individual can buy.

I sheet you not

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Rossticus said:

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jxs40 said:

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Report from the front lines at HEB. Parking lot packed. Bread, beer and milk still plentiful. Limits placed on the amount of lysol and purell an individual can buy.

I sheet you not

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My HEB was safely stocked with all items...except Clorox wipes. Sold completely out. HEB brand disinfectant wipes hadn't been touched. Probably says something about the consumer demographic but I have no idea what.

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KidDoc said:

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This is a well written article about what to really be worried about once Coronavirus breaks out.

https://medium.com/@amwren/forget-about-the-death-rate-this-is-why-you-should-be-worried-about-the-coronavirus-890fbf9c4de6

Not enough beds in hospital or ICU in any country.

I fully expect to get it but I'm not worried as I'm middle aged and healthy. The burden on the medical system is going to be a significant challenge.

The author uses UK as an example but it is no better here. You cannot have tons of empty hospital beds and staffing sitting around just in case a novel pandemic happens. I would love to know how the temp new hospitals in China are doing.
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We think the virus might be much more infectious than the flu, but let's assume that only 8% of the UK population gets infected, the same as a severe flu season.
The UK population is 67 million people, that's 5.4 million infected.
Currents predictions are that 80% of the cases will be mild.
If 20% of those people require hospitalization for 36 weeks?
That's 1,086,176 People.
Do you know how many beds the NHS has?
140,000

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KidDoc said:

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This is a well written article about what to really be worried about once Coronavirus breaks out.

https://medium.com/@amwren/forget-about-the-death-rate-this-is-why-you-should-be-worried-about-the-coronavirus-890fbf9c4de6

Not enough beds in hospital or ICU in any country.

I fully expect to get it but I'm not worried as I'm middle aged and healthy. The burden on the medical system is going to be a significant challenge.

The author uses UK as an example but it is no better here. You cannot have tons of empty hospital beds and staffing sitting around just in case a novel pandemic happens. I would love to know how the temp new hospitals in China are doing.
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We think the virus might be much more infectious than the flu, but let's assume that only 8% of the UK population gets infected, the same as a severe flu season.
The UK population is 67 million people, that's 5.4 million infected.
Currents predictions are that 80% of the cases will be mild.
If 20% of those people require hospitalization for 36 weeks?
That's 1,086,176 People.
Do you know how many beds the NHS has?
140,000

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The problem with these kind of articles is they always assume everyone will get it at the same time. Obviously it will be spread out.

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KidDoc said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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KidDoc said:

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This is a well written article about what to really be worried about once Coronavirus breaks out.

https://medium.com/@amwren/forget-about-the-death-rate-this-is-why-you-should-be-worried-about-the-coronavirus-890fbf9c4de6

Not enough beds in hospital or ICU in any country.

I fully expect to get it but I'm not worried as I'm middle aged and healthy. The burden on the medical system is going to be a significant challenge.

The author uses UK as an example but it is no better here. You cannot have tons of empty hospital beds and staffing sitting around just in case a novel pandemic happens. I would love to know how the temp new hospitals in China are doing.
------------------snip ------------------------
We think the virus might be much more infectious than the flu, but let's assume that only 8% of the UK population gets infected, the same as a severe flu season.
The UK population is 67 million people, that's 5.4 million infected.
Currents predictions are that 80% of the cases will be mild.
If 20% of those people require hospitalization for 36 weeks?
That's 1,086,176 People.
Do you know how many beds the NHS has?
140,000

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The problem with these kind of articles is they always assume everyone will get it at the same time. Obviously it will be spread out.

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That is a good point but, from the current cases and evidence of temporary hospitals in China, this is not a 2-3 day illness. Most of the hospitalized patients seem to stay > 10 days which is a LONG hospital stay for a virus.

It will be interesting to see if home O2 will be more utilized as hospital beds start to run out.

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riverrataggie said:

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KidDoc said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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KidDoc said:

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This is a well written article about what to really be worried about once Coronavirus breaks out.

https://medium.com/@amwren/forget-about-the-death-rate-this-is-why-you-should-be-worried-about-the-coronavirus-890fbf9c4de6

Not enough beds in hospital or ICU in any country.

I fully expect to get it but I'm not worried as I'm middle aged and healthy. The burden on the medical system is going to be a significant challenge.

The author uses UK as an example but it is no better here. You cannot have tons of empty hospital beds and staffing sitting around just in case a novel pandemic happens. I would love to know how the temp new hospitals in China are doing.
------------------snip ------------------------
We think the virus might be much more infectious than the flu, but let's assume that only 8% of the UK population gets infected, the same as a severe flu season.
The UK population is 67 million people, that's 5.4 million infected.
Currents predictions are that 80% of the cases will be mild.
If 20% of those people require hospitalization for 36 weeks?
That's 1,086,176 People.
Do you know how many beds the NHS has?
140,000

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The problem with these kind of articles is they always assume everyone will get it at the same time. Obviously it will be spread out.

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That is a good point but, from the current cases and evidence of temporary hospitals in China, this is not a 2-3 day illness. Most of the hospitalized patients seem to stay > 10 days which is a LONG hospital stay for a virus.

It will be interesting to see if home O2 will be more utilized as hospital beds start to run out.

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I've been curious about the length of hospital stay, were they staying for quarantine and had symptoms or that they were truly needing it?

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GE said:

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Seems like now would be a good time to start building some covid specific hospitals

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Pennsylvania_Ag said:

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Grocery store where I live in Eastern Washington state was full stock today and no lines.

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In this case, FDA did say it was recently added to its drug shortages list, and recent additions include Allergan's treatment for complicated intra-abdominal infections, Avycaz (ceftazidime and avibactam), Mylan's blood pressure drug pindolol 10mg (and Sun Pharmaceutical offers the same drug), and Pfizer's chemotherapy fludarabine phosphate for injection.

Allergan told Focus in a statement: "We are experiencing an out of stock situation for AVYCAZ (ceftazidime and avibactam) for injection (2.5g) as we await regulatory approval on a new third-party manufacturer, which will ultimately allow us to continue our supply in the U.S. This situation is not related to any product or safety issue. All currently available AVYCAZ supply is unaffected and not at risk for recallTo be clear our recent drug shortage of AVYCAZ is not related to the coronavirus."

The reasoning behind Mylan and Sun's shortages is listed as "shortage of active ingredient," and Mylan did not respond to a request for comment.

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A Pfizer spokesperson told Focus the shortage "is completely unrelated and pre-dates the outbreak...The majority of our finished product and active pharmaceutical ingredient are sourced from countries other than China. To date, we have not seen a disruption to our supply as a result of the virus.

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