What does US law or Texas law say about quarantine? I tried to Google but all I could get was about rabies.
China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission
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Tedros is not a doctor. He has ZERO medical expertise - look into his "medical background."
He is a long-time party hack of a very....problematic .....political party apparatus. This is a guy who honored Mugabe as a paragon of health care initiatives.
WHO has no credibility here at the executive level.
Zero.
He is a long-time party hack of a very....problematic .....political party apparatus. This is a guy who honored Mugabe as a paragon of health care initiatives.
WHO has no credibility here at the executive level.
Zero.
Can't see uncontrolled spread if there's only 15-20 countries in the world who can actually test for it.JJMt said:At first I rolled my eyes at that, but then after further reflection wondered if he might be right.KorbinDallas said:
Good news everyone.
We are seeing uncontrolled spread in some countries, but not worldwide, and afaik there's not large-scale deaths (knock on wood).
Just another worthless entity within the UN. Spent the last month saying they won't call it a pandemic until it reaches multiple countries. Now it has, they come out and say "ah, yeah, we don't use the term pandemic anymore, so we won't be calling it one."
What a ****ing clown show.
He's also been popped already for corruption in Ethiopia.Redstone said:
Tedros is not a doctor. He has ZERO medical expertise - look into his "medical background."
He is a long-time party hack of a very....problematic .....political party apparatus. This is a guy who honored Mugabe as a paragon of health care initiatives.
WHO has no credibility here at the executive level.
Zero.
But at the U.N., that just means he's extremely qualified.
Suspend habeas corpus; martial law. It's an option.BCOBQ98 said:
What does US law or Texas law say about quarantine? I tried to Google but all I could get was about rabies.
Specifically Art. 1 Sec. 9; "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it."
I don't think Texas/any state has the right to do it; this is reserved to the federal gov't.
WHO is a clown show of the UN. I trust anything they say about as far as I can throw them, aka not at all.
I trust our CDC more, but they are hampered by ineffective tests and not wanting to stoke fear.
If the President's briefing team only think China's published numbers are off a factor of 8-10, that's not as bad as I fear. I thought at the early outset that it was closer to 100x the numbers China was reporting.
I trust our CDC more, but they are hampered by ineffective tests and not wanting to stoke fear.
If the President's briefing team only think China's published numbers are off a factor of 8-10, that's not as bad as I fear. I thought at the early outset that it was closer to 100x the numbers China was reporting.
We won't see cases in Africa, Mexico, or South America. They deal with Ebola, Malaria, and all sorts of exotic diseases on a daily and historic basis.
This is just another blip on the radar......They may lose 5 to 50 million but that's expected every once in awhile.
It's the economic impacts that are going to be the real issue in the coming days, weeks, and months.....
This is just another blip on the radar......They may lose 5 to 50 million but that's expected every once in awhile.
It's the economic impacts that are going to be the real issue in the coming days, weeks, and months.....
Mr.Infectious said:
We won't see cases in Africa, Mexico, or South America. They deal with Ebola, Malaria, and all sorts of exotic diseases on a daily and historic basis.
This is just another blip on the radar......They may lose 5 to 50 million but that's expected every once in awhile.
It's the economic impacts that are going to be the real issue in the coming days, weeks, and months.....
Maybe I'm misreading, but those statements sound truly evil.
If China's off by a factor of ten, that means the real death rate is 10%. Hard to call that 'not bad'.Zemira said:
WHO is a clown show of the UN. I trust anything they say about as far as I can throw them, aka not at all.
I trust our CDC more, but they are hampered by ineffective tests and not wanting to stoke fear.
If the President's briefing team only think China's published numbers are off a factor of 8-10, that's not as bad as I fear. I thought at the early outset that it was closer to 100x the numbers China was reporting.
Plus, once our hospital system gets overrun (no more beds / ventilators, and/or doctors and staff no showing so they don't catch it and bring it home), that mortality rate is going to go through the roof.
He is a doctor, just not a medical doctor. He is a PhD biologist (from a western university)Redstone said:
Tedros is not a doctor. He has ZERO medical expertise - look into his "medical background."
He is a long-time party hack of a very....problematic .....political party apparatus. This is a guy who honored Mugabe as a paragon of health care initiatives.
WHO has no credibility here at the executive level.
Zero.
Politically speaking, the UN and other world organizations are always going to be a cluster****. A real "world health organization" would just be the best scientists and administrators from the richest countries like the US and that's never going to be politically acceptable for multiple reasons.
AG 2000' said:If China's off by a factor of ten, that means the real death rate is 10%. Hard to call that 'not bad'.Zemira said:
WHO is a clown show of the UN. I trust anything they say about as far as I can throw them, aka not at all.
I trust our CDC more, but they are hampered by ineffective tests and not wanting to stoke fear.
If the President's briefing team only think China's published numbers are off a factor of 8-10, that's not as bad as I fear. I thought at the early outset that it was closer to 100x the numbers China was reporting.
Plus, once our hospital system gets overrun (no more beds / ventilators, and/or doctors and staff no showing so they don't catch it and bring it home), that mortality rate is going to go through the roof.
I think the Trump admin is closer to your original thinking then you are realizing. A factor of 10 is typically 10*x. So 10 reported would mean the actual was 10*10 or 100. As opposed to 10% more would be 11.
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Not evil. Just reality. They don't run to a western doctor every time they get a sniffle or cough. 3rd world folks will brush this off faster than the western world.
Look at page 179 and you'll understand it.Nuclear Scramjet said:
Europeans do not keep much food in their homes. They prefer to go shopping every few days, so anything out of the ordinary, this is what happens.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
If all numbers were off by the same factor, then the death rate wouldn't change.AG 2000' said:If China's off by a factor of ten, that means the real death rate is 10%. Hard to call that 'not bad'.Zemira said:
WHO is a clown show of the UN. I trust anything they say about as far as I can throw them, aka not at all.
I trust our CDC more, but they are hampered by ineffective tests and not wanting to stoke fear.
If the President's briefing team only think China's published numbers are off a factor of 8-10, that's not as bad as I fear. I thought at the early outset that it was closer to 100x the numbers China was reporting.
Plus, once our hospital system gets overrun (no more beds / ventilators, and/or doctors and staff no showing so they don't catch it and bring it home), that mortality rate is going to go through the roof.
Around 700,000 infected and 23,000 dead (using a factor of 10). Death rate still 2ish-3ish%.
The average size Dorm fridge in Europe is what a home of 4-5 people have. They shop everyday.
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Not only that but your average European has about as much room for dry storage as a studio apartment here in the States. The amount of storage I've had in every apartment I've ever rented dwarfs that, the homes I've owned dwarf that further still. (No brag meant, I mean some truly ****ty apartments have triple the average European's storage.) It's not even funny how little storage the average European has for something like that compared to here.Agnzona said:
The average size Dorm fridge in Europe is what a home of 4-5 people have. They shop everyday.
The ones in Germany are at least 15% bigger than that.Agnzona said:
The average size Dorm fridge in Europe is what a home of 4-5 people have. They shop everyday.
The last tweet gives us a good excuse to wall off NYC!
Countries should have stopped all travel to and from China weeks ago
Law Hall 69-72 said:
The last tweet gives us a good excuse to wall off NYC!
Good movie
daggertx said:
Countries should have all travel to and from China weeks ago
The US should be banning all travel from all other countries at this point. Granted, they need to bring Americans home, but after a quarantine.
Problem is, this bug has likely been here for 4-6 weeks now thanks to all of the international travelers.
I think you might look at SARS. Relatively low CFR that increased with time as the disease progressed.
Is the early data still holding up indicating that the vast majority of deaths are the elderly and those with preexisting medical conditions?GE said:Would be very interested in knowing the underlying stats here. I have to assume that the 2-4% in Wuhan reflects either very delayed, non-existent, or insufficient treatment and that the 0.7% is much closer to what properly treated cases reflect.VaultingChemist said:
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