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I wouldn't cancel a domestic flight yet but I'd carry had sanitizer and wet wipes with me.

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My expert also said this.

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It does not appear to aerosolize greatly that is why the mask is not very useful, if at all

fomites are the likely transmission method

That means contact with surfaces

If A&M shuts down, they are making a mistake

There is so much false and fake news I have all the facts, even the genome sequences

The outbreak is being handled well

Look at the last SARS if you want to see how things will go

This virus is less lethal and less infectious than SARS

Therefore, half the number of deaths and half the number of infections

Everything else is just kind of silly

It is very like that there will be no spreading in secondary sites like the U.S.

That means all cases will be imported

People in the U.S. should calm down

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It's being handled well yet the Chinese are admitting they have been unable to contain it? Something doesn't add up here.

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I have a ski trip next week in Colorado and am traveling through IAH. Anyone concerned enough to cancel a flight yet?

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Omg haven't you heard we are all gonna die! You must do nothing!

JK, people are blowing this way out of proportion. Lots of twitter folks out there trying to make a name for themselves fear mongering and sensationalizing.

Go on your vacation, and live life. You'll regret it later if you cancelled something over a variation of flu that is going around China.

Go buy a few bags of rice, and ride it out -)

25lbs a bag at costco for 8 bucks.

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I can't get the image to display? Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

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Don't link directly to 4chan, pervert.

I think most of the people posting on this thread almost want this to happen because they have consumed so much entertainment where the worst case scenarios happen.

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man. im actually really worried about this whole thing and reading this thread doesnt help. im away from home and wont be back for a few months and will be overseas for most of that. my biggest fear is something happens to my family while im gone and i cant make it back to be there for them.

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are they in Asia right now? I'm sorry to hear that. it must be stressful. I'll be praying for yall.

Horse*****... We all have family/friends and don't want it to pan out to anything more than the fall of the communist government.

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China's SARS quarantine was less than 5% the size of this. Who is your expert?

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Can't reveal that. A&M expert.

I did ask if he will be on tv and he replied:

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I doubt that too, they are using another faculty in my department, Julian Leibowitz

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He did say there is an outbreak, just that this virus isn't as lethal as SARS.

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Horse*****... We all have family/friends and don't want it to pan out to anything more than the fall of the communist government.

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Well, of course. No one wants anything bad to ever happen. No one would wish harm or sickness on friends/family, much less strangers. If you read the thread, it's pretty telling though that people take the smallest things and get confirmation bias, believe what they want and then extrapolate that into this huge deal. It's very emotional and in some ways irrational. I wouldn't say it's irrational to have some concern, but if you read some of these posts, people are hypothesizing what the end of the world looks like because of this.

Just an observation.

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I think most of the people posting on this thread almost want this to happen because they have consumed so much entertainment where the worst case scenarios happen.

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nobody wants this to happen, period. if this gets into any of the bad case scenarios, it is absolutely terrible.

What a bunch of nonsense.

It's pretty rational to think the worst in order to prepare, Id rather be prepared and not need it than vice versa

What's interesting to me is that lots of experts seem to be speaking quite highly of China's response to this outbreak. It seems to me like that is largely because despite a lack of trust most of us have regarding anything the Chinese government says, they are being much more open than they were during the SARS outbreak.

I'm curious why you wouldn't prepare for the worst, and hope for the best....

I'm no prepper, but there will eventually be a pandemic that kills many millions(The CDC has been warning about this for years..) It takes very little effort to prepare for the worst, and protect your family.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/scientist-who-simulated-the-global-impact-of-a-coronavirus-outbreak-says-the-cats-already-out-of-the-bag-and-chinas-efforts-to-contain-the-disease-unlikely-to-be-effective-2020-01-24

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"Toner, an M.D. and researcher at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, took part in a simulation, undertaken in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, that posited such a disease could kill 65 million people within 18 months under the right circumstances."

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Looking worse and worse.

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I'm curious why you wouldn't prepare for the worst, and hope for the best....

I'm no prepper, but there will eventually be a pandemic that kills many millions(The CDC has been warning about this for years..) It takes very little effort to prepare for the worst, and protect your family.

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It's hard to trust an organization warning about these things while in the same breath complaining about their budget being cut. But they know what they're doing, no one would be able to say no.

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I'm curious why you wouldn't prepare for the worst, and hope for the best....

I'm no prepper, but there will eventually be a pandemic that kills many millions(The CDC has been warning about this for years..) It takes very little effort to prepare for the worst, and protect your family.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

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I'm curious why you wouldn't prepare for the worst, and hope for the best....

I'm no prepper, but there will eventually be a pandemic that kills many millions(The CDC has been warning about this for years..) It takes very little effort to prepare for the worst, and protect your family.

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Curious, have you ever traveled outside the US?

Troll alert

Many times. Though, never to China (for good reason.)

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It's pretty rational to think the worst in order to prepare, Id rather be prepared and not need it than vice versa

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You can greatly reduce your chances of getting sick with simple behavior changes....get sleep, taking vitamins to boost your immune system, practicing good sanitation.


In the 15% chance you do get this virus, you're way more likely to live than die. You'll feel like **** for a couple of days maybe a week and wish your were dead, but you'll live. Just be prepared to ride it out at home.

When has the US ever evacuated US diplomats and citizens out of a foreign city that is on lockdown over a virus? Must be pretty bad in Wuhan.

I agree to an extent

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Many times. Though, never to China (for good reason.)

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I haven't either. Well, I have passed through Beijing. My point was more broad though. This isn't a troll.

The reason I ask is that for probably the last 19 years (since 911) there has been a large group of people in the US that won't travel internationally for fear of terrorism. Is it truly based in reality and stats? No. You are more likely to die via lightening strike than terror attack, but yet people choose to live in fear. Should you not be cautious and avoid dangerous situations? Absolutely you should... Is it scary to think about? Hell ya.

I just feel that some people are more emotionally attached/interested in certain end world scenarios. It fuels the emotional paranoia in all of us and if you have already had the thoughts and you see all the twitter posts and then multiple people on Texags start posting frenzied emotional things, it fuels what you already want to believe to be true.

For instance, read some of the posts about 5-10 pages ago. People are quoting movies, TV shows, and books they have read that are fiction.

I am not saying you shouldn't take some precautions, but I think a lot of the reaction in this thread is overplayed. That's all. I would be willing to bet that we make it out of this alive.

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azulAg said:

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It's pretty rational to think the worst in order to prepare, Id rather be prepared and not need it than vice versa

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You can greatly reduce your chances of getting sick with simple behavior changes....get sleep, taking vitamins to boost your immune system, practicing good sanitation.


In the 15% chance you do get this virus, you're way more likely to live than die. You'll feel like **** for a couple of days maybe a week and wish your were dead, but you'll live. Just be prepared to ride it out at home.

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See, this is the exactly logic, rational, and more likely result. However, this is a small percentage of posts because it's boring.

FriendlyAg said:

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Mr.Infectious said:

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azulAg said:

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It's pretty rational to think the worst in order to prepare, Id rather be prepared and not need it than vice versa

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You can greatly reduce your chances of getting sick with simple behavior changes....get sleep, taking vitamins to boost your immune system, practicing good sanitation.


In the 15% chance you do get this virus, you're way more likely to live than die. You'll feel like **** for a couple of days maybe a week and wish your were dead, but you'll live. Just be prepared to ride it out at home.

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See, this is the exactly logic, rational, and more likely result. However, this is a small percentage of posts because it's boring.

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This is probably true, but no one can confirm yet. Until the early patients come through (or not) after 3 weeks or so, actual info and statistics cannot be evaluated.

Right now all stats are premature. They day 1500 infected 50 dead 40 recovered.

So until its run his course, for instance, we dont know if mortality is 50/40 or 50/1500, or sime other number.

R-0 number isnt known yet either. The minumum is r2.5 which is supposedly worse than sars and about where spanish flu was. Some info 3.8 - catastrophic. It also could be worse.

It most likely will peter out, but the evidemce so far requires skepticism and basic preparation.

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It's pretty rational to think the worst in order to prepare, Id rather be prepared and not need it than vice versa

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You can greatly reduce your chances of getting sick with simple behavior changes....get sleep, taking vitamins to boost your immune system, practicing good sanitation.


In the 15% chance you do get this virus, you're way more likely to live than die. You'll feel like **** for a couple of days maybe a week and wish your were dead, but you'll live. Just be prepared to ride it out at home.

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Where is this 15% factor coming from? Data?

If there's a 15% chance you get this virus and most likely won't die, you should be highly alarmed.

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You are more likely to die via lightening strike than terror attack, but yet people choose to live in fear.

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Why throw this out? My goal is the same as the CDC. Everyone should prepare for the worst. If this is not the event that kills 30% of the population, at least the food they buy might cover their ass when the real one hits.


I see no down side to being prepared to protect your family. I don't really care what tinfoil hat posts proceed mine. You should be prepared to feed your family and cover your ass for at least a month.

A 25lb bag of rice is 8 bucks at costco... Buy a few and you are good to go.

My chance of being struck by lightning is low, but I still clear the golf course when a thunderstorm rolls in.

Jiangxi population over 45m people

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azulAg said:

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It's pretty rational to think the worst in order to prepare, Id rather be prepared and not need it than vice versa

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You can greatly reduce your chances of getting sick with simple behavior changes....get sleep, taking vitamins to boost your immune system, practicing good sanitation.


In the 15% chance you do get this virus, you're way more likely to live than die. You'll feel like **** for a couple of days maybe a week and wish your were dead, but you'll live. Just be prepared to ride it out at home.

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15% chance? Where's that number coming from Infectius.

Just a bit worse than the common cold.