Brett Kavanaugh rape allegations

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FriscoKid
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That should actually be one of the questions that she is asked UNDER OATH...
"Have you or your lawyers been given direction by the minority leader or someone on his staff?"
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bmks270 said:

That letter states that one of Fords request is that senators conduct the questioning.

Just let the Dems question her... make sure all of the Republican senators are present, but have no questions.


Hirono: Ms. Ford, you deserve a Purple Heart for what you've had to go through the past week and a half. Thanks for being here. These allegations are very serious. Should I believe you?

Ford: Yes.

Hirono: Thank you for your honest answer Ms. Ford. I hope that you can get your life back together after this traumatic experience. I pray that all Survivors like you can move on with their lives. I yield the balance of my time.
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FriscoKid said:

That should actually be one of the questions that she is asked UNDER OATH...
"Have you or your lawyers been given direction by the minority leader or someone on his staff?"
"someone on his staff"!?!?!?!



"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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bmks270 said:

That letter states that one of Fords request is that senators conduct the questioning.

Just let the Dems question her... make sure all of the Republican senators are present, but have no questions.
Didn't she initially say that she was afraid to testify to the committee because she didn't think the committee's questioners would treat her fairly?

Now she wants them to question her because the pro-victim prosecutor wouldn't treat her fairly?

Am I the ONLY ONE who sees this as totally preposterous?
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The talking point that the GOP committee members were all male was trotted-out this morning. Could they fairly question her? Now she doesn't want a female prosecutor to question her.

She doesn't know what she wants...except to not testify before that committee.

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Wildcat said:

The talking point that the GOP committee members were all male was trotted-out this morning. Could they fairly question her? Now she doesn't want a female prosecutor to question her.

She doesn't know what she wants...except to not testify before that committee.


She's being used. This is not up to her.
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If you email staff they will email you back and usually include the exact post that brought on the ban. I know from many experiences.
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Prognightmare said:

If you email staff they will email you back and usually include the exact post that brought on the ban. I know from many experiences.
ditto... and then you can make your case.

i've gotten bans reduced or removed with explanation and/or extenuating circumstances. although that's rare.
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If this **** show works out splendidly for the Dems, just imagine what they'll do on future Supreme Court nominations.
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#MeToo
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BallerStaf2003 said:

Just want to say, on the record, that the Democrats behavior through this has been disgusting.


They are impowed by Dem capitulation on all the Trump nonsense, its exactly the same.
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Her counsel knows it doesn't matter who questions her, because her story lacks specifics and she can't remember jack *****.. anyone could question her and make her look stupid. She's not going to testify.

This entire fiasco is just stupid.
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BallerStaf2003 said:

Just want to say, on the record, that the Democrats behavior through this has been disgusting.
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1044625192130170881.html

Short thread. Definitely on target. Normal people see what Dems will do to anyone with a different opinion, and consequently they are joining the #WalkAway.
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This is a PR operation at this point. They know full well she is going to back out of testifying, it's all about making it look like the Republicans wouldn't give her a fair opportunity to tell "her story" - which is exactly what it is. A complete act of fiction dreamed up as part of a desperate attempt to delay confirmation until after the mid-terms.

I wish Judge K would sue every one of these false accusers into oblivion for this charade.

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All this xxxxx from the media, the Dem dewsher senators and the xxxxx will not even take the stand. These high powered shills, funded by Soros et Al, are not stupid. Grassley has been taking buckets of xxxxx repeatedly.....he knows he has the winning hand. Progressives are evil and offer nothing of value to this country. Xxxxx em all.
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Dems went with the hard count, but Collins and Flake didn't jump. They are looking for a dead ball personal foul to bail them out as their fans are screaming for them to go for it.
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She will testify.

At this point the Dems are all in on this. They realize that her allegations are bunk but they don't need them to be accurate or believable. All they need is enough impact on the emotional level to achieve success. For days we've assumed that four Republican Senators were in play (Collins, Murkowski, Flake, Corker). Now Fox has reported that the number of Republicans in play might be as high as seven (Enzi, Lankford, Sasse). Accurate or not if these are the rumors circulating on the Hill this will embolden the Democrats to move forward.

All the Democrats need are two Republicans to defect. Two out of seven sounds a whole lot better than two out of four. I have to believe they see this as worth the risk. If they don't have her testify the will look even more ridiculous than they currently do. If she testifies and hits it out of the park they tank Kavanaugh and have momentum going into the midterms.
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Any republican who is "in play" and can't see this for what it is should have all of the dirt available on them dumped by Trump. If they're too dumb to see what the dems are doing and don't have the balls to hold the line when it's needed the most, they need to get the hell out and not represent the American people.
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You're probably right. At this point I think they can't afford for her not to testify.

If they think they're going to get another delay, then they're dumber than we thought. I wouldn't rule out them just hoping for another delay, but surely they're not that stupid. They are dems, though.
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I bet Flake is the only one that is really "in play". Collins is a pretty solid yes IMO with some of the stuff she has said about this circus.
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FriscoKid said:

I bet Flake is the only one that is really "in play". Collins is a pretty solid yes IMO with some of the stuff she has said about this circus.


If Flake is the only one in play then move forward and let Pence settle it
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FroWins said:

You're probably right. At this point I think they can't afford for her not to testify.

If they think they're going to get another delay, then they're dumber than we thought. I wouldn't rule out them just hoping for another delay, but surely they're not that stupid. They are dems, though.
Have you not paid attention to any of this? A half broken wet noodle is harder than the spines in the GOP outside of Trump. The dems get that. They play to their solid base and go all in. The GOP doesn't. They will screw over their base to appease the fringe who will put a knife in their backs the first chance they got.
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I agree. I don't like the scenario I described. I just feel that this is how it will play out.

I'm hoping that the Chairman of the GOP has been in contact all the "in play" Senators and made them realize that if they go against the party on this then they will be considered persona non grata and will face a serious primary challenge in their next election and will have crap committee assignments from here on out. For Corker and Flake who are not running for reelection make sure they understand they will have no access to the halls of power once they leave DC. All their influence will be dead.
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What??? Sasse is undecided?! I'm disappointed in him.
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FriscoKid said:

I bet Flake is the only one that is really "in play". Collins is a pretty solid yes IMO with some of the stuff she has said about this circus.
If Flake votes no then what ever dream he had about running for POTUS is dead.
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I would think many senators would say they are "undecided" until after Thursday. Whether they believe Ford or not.
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goatchze said:

I would think many senators would say they are "undecided" until after Thursday. Whether they believe Ford or not.


This is my thought.
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aTm2004
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tsuag10 said:


That's Trump telling those on the fence to watch out if they don't confirm because of this.
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Here's a question: Would the Dems have had enough oomph to take down Kavanaugh had they not used any political capital on Roy Moore?

(I appealed to staff. They saw my point and I saw theirs, so I'm back)
tsuag10
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Welcome back!

And yes. It's "the little boy that cried wolf." No one trusts them anymore.
FriscoKid
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Be careful when you argue with libs. It's not worth the ban.
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FriscoKid said:

Be careful when you argue with libs. It's not worth the ban.


In fairness, I wasn't flagged I don't think. It was a mod and not a user. No way to know. Just my gut feeling.
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goatchze said:

I would think many senators would say they are "undecided" until after Thursday. Whether they believe Ford or not.
Absolutely. Right now the left is lambasting anyone who has already decided without hearing the testimony - which in many circumstances is fair to do. Hopefully they just want to be able to say "I kept an open mind, but when she refused to repeat her accusation under oath, I could not agree to destroy a man and his career over a rumor."

I say that because I still feel certain she won't testify. She never intended to, and all of the delaying and arguing about the form of the hearing has just been buying time and then creating an excuse for backing out.

I see others think that whoever is the ringleader of this mess will force her to testify, but I don't think so. The downside of putting her out there and having her self-destruct under the bright lights is too great.
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