Brett Kavanaugh rape allegations

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aginlakeway said:

Rocky Rider said:

She's speaking out - Outstanding. I'm sure she will schedule a polygraph to substantiate her claim.



She apparently has already passed one.
Yep - blew by that in my quick read. I'd say Kavanaugh has an up hill battle on his hands. If only Bill Clinton had faced his accusers in this day.

Cy_Tolliver
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It's strange how all of these accusers are always "registered Democrats". Also, she took a polygraph - big deal, she could have passed a polygraph that the incident happened without Kavanaugh's name ever even being used in the questioning. According to the therapist's notes she never used his name in therapy and the only corroborating evidence that she ever used his name at that time was from her husband - who I'll go out on a limb and just assume is also a "registered Democrat"

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Rocky Rider said:

aginlakeway said:

Rocky Rider said:

She's speaking out - Outstanding. I'm sure she will schedule a polygraph to substantiate her claim.



She apparently has already passed one.
Yep - blew by that in my quick read. I'd say Kavanaugh has an up hill battle on his hands. If only Bill Clinton had faced his accusers in this day.




Kind of hard to come out when the State Police are keeping you quiet.
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The R's must confirm him. This is garbage.
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This is just part of the effort to delay which was the dem strategy from the beginning.
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aginlakeway said:

Rocky Rider said:

She's speaking out - Outstanding. I'm sure she will schedule a polygraph to substantiate her claim.



She apparently has already passed one.
You can always pass a polygraph if you believe it. It is called false memory syndrome and it is a lot more common than you think.
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If Democrats want to drive conservatives to the polls red state midterm senate elections this is how they do it. Idiots cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Old Tom Morris
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Research psychologist. Anyone surprised by that?
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garc said:

The R's must confirm him. This is garbage.


Yeah, I would normally say this is evidence that Kavenaugh is an even more ardent "originalist" than originally advertised, if the left is putting this much effort into delaying or destroying his confirmation. But they would be doing this if Trump nominated a moderate democrat. Just like Mitt Romney was an evil sexist.
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garc said:

aginlakeway said:

Accuser now speaking out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/california-professor-writer-of-confidential-brett-kavanaugh-letter-speaks-out-about-her-allegation-of-sexual-assault/2018/09/16/46982194-b846-11e8-94eb-3bd52dfe917b_story.html?utm_term=.4b32b5b924d0


So Judge is lying too?
Not sure how good Judge is as a rebuttal witness
Quote:

Judge is a filmmaker and author who has written for the Daily Caller, The Weekly Standard and The Washington Post. He chronicled his recovery from alcoholism in "Wasted: Tales of a Gen-X Drunk," which described his own blackout drinking and a culture of partying among students at his high school, renamed in the book "Loyola Prep." Kavanaugh is not mentioned in the book, but a passage about partying at the beach one summer makes glancing reference to a "Bart O'Kavanaugh," who "puked in someone's car the other night" and "passed out on his way back from a party."
Cy_Tolliver
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I also don't buy her story about how she never wanted any of this public and was just trying to stop a rapist from becoming a SC Justice.

If that was your only goal, you PRIVATELY contact Republican leadership of this when you hear he's being considered for nomination so they can remove him with no scandal and without you going public.

Sending a letter to an opposing politician to eventually use it publicly then crying "oh no!!! I never thought an opposing politician would use the damaging letter I sent in a public political way" is a crock of sh*t.
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Yep BK must be in the mold of Thomas/Scalia if the libs are trying this hard. Really, really good sign for constitutional conservatives
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doubledog said:

aginlakeway said:

Rocky Rider said:

She's speaking out - Outstanding. I'm sure she will schedule a polygraph to substantiate her claim.



She apparently has already passed one.
You can always pass a polygraph if you believe it. It is called false memory syndrome and it is a lot more common than you think.
The questions asked are important. For me to begin believing in the credibility they will need to release them.

The background of the polygrapher should be investigated too. I don't trust anyone in the FBI right now. Edit- the polygrapher was a former FBI Agent ...I think that's worse.

Polys are widely used in my business area and while they aren't perfect, they are far from being unreliable. There are also people that know how to use breathing techniques to pass some polygraphs; Patsy Ramsey comes to mind. I would think someone with the accusers psychology background would know a thing or two about fooling a poly.
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JAS61 said:

F what this country has turned into.

Thanks Democrats.


What if she's telling the truth?
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I don't care if she's telling the truth. There was s time to make the allegation. A week before the vote is not that time. Too late too bad. Sorry not sorry
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Macarthur said:

JAS61 said:

F what this country has turned into.

Thanks Democrats.


What if she's telling the truth?


Do you honestly believe the allegations of a registered democrat who waited decades until this very moment to come forward?

Yes or No

For the record
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If the tables were turned and this was happening with a liberal nominee, is there any doubt that the Democrats would chuckle and proceed with pushing the nomination through?

Democrats have thrived by holding conservatives to a higher set of standards and watching them eat themselves. Trump has shown that liberals have no idea how to react when they get a dose of their own medicine. Until the Democrats start caring about morals, values, laws, etc., Republicans should continue to just laugh at the meltdowns and continue on.
Maroon Dawn
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Yup

Ignore it and push the nom through

SC is simply too important to let liberals win with such a pathetic hail mary
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Maroon Dawn said:

Macarthur said:

JAS61 said:

F what this country has turned into.

Thanks Democrats.


What if she's telling the truth?


Do you honestly believe the allegations of a registered democrat who waited decades until this very moment to come forward?

Yes or No

For the record
Not speaking for Macarthur, but at this point I don't think you can say she's either telling the truth or not based on what has been reported. She gave the Post the names of two others she says were at the party. I find myself wondering if that info was in the material provided to Eshoo, Feinstein, and the FBI. If not, we should wait and see, IMO.

At least in terms of judging what happened or not. The scheduling of the vote is a different issue, and I'm not sure how that should be handled. But that's going to be based on politics, not truth or justice. Holding the letter for months ensured that.
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She is a liar.

Full stop.

I am using all of the evidence available to make this determination.
Maroon Dawn
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She had plenty of time to come forward

Either provide evidence or STFU

Again I say ignore her lying Dem ass and vote in Kav

He can always be removed if actual evidence ever comes to light
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Polygraphs use the same technology that the Scientologists magic machines

Complete manipulation by the person running the session

Old Tom Morris
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Maroon Dawn said:

Yup

Ignore it and push the nom through

SC is simply too important to let liberals win with such a pathetic hail mary


Exactly. It's a nearly 40 year old, never previously made accusation of a teenager. You ignore this and move on. It shouldnt hold things up one day, much less weeks or months. Injustice is giving this accusation any merit or time at all.
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Macarthur said:

JAS61 said:

F what this country has turned into.

Thanks Democrats.


What if she's telling the truth?
Then she could have come forth during the hearings, and not waited until the 11th hour.

Dianne Feinstein should also be sanctioned for withholding information and stripped from her membership in the Senate Judiciary Committee for obstruction of justice.

The fact that this was dropped just days before the vote, with no time left for any investigative body to either properly substantiate or refute the claims is damning. This was not about finding out the truth, or seeking justice - This was a high tech lynching. Kavanaugh's name and reputation have been permanently smeared with no ability to defend himself.

If he was guilty, then so be it, but this is not how you go about it. This is nothing more at this point than a he said-she said situation, and we know how those turn out for the accused (see both University of Virginia and the Duke Lacrosse team).
Old Tom Morris
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This kind of thing does legitimate victims the biggest disservice possible. Shameful.
biobioprof
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Old Tom Morris said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Yup

Ignore it and push the nom through

SC is simply too important to let liberals win with such a pathetic hail mary


Exactly. It's a nearly 40 year old, never previously made accusation of a teenager. You ignore this and move on. It shouldnt hold things up one day, much less weeks or months. Injustice is giving this accusation any merit or time at all.
Never made publicly but told her therapist and husband about it in 2012, per the story.

There's some discussion on twitter that I find interesting:


which reminds me of this guy, who might be fun as a SCOTUS pick

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shon_Hopwood

Others are making this point: What he did or didn't do at 17 shouldn't define his suitability... but if there's evidence that he ever lied about what he did in HS as an adult, that would be different. I'd have to reexamine what was said initially to decide whether that horse has left the barn.

Wonder what Amy Coney Barrett is thinking right now.
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gig em 02
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Macarthur said:

JAS61 said:

F what this country has turned into.

Thanks Democrats.


What if she's telling the truth?


Then the democrats shouldn't lie about the Russia crap so when something true happens people actually believe them. Another baseless accusation supported by zero evidence. Released only when it was politically advantageous.

The left is full of ***** Nobody of any intelligence should believe them without personally verifying their claims.
Old Tom Morris
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Rapier108 said:




My shocked face
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Rockdoc
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Schumer said they'd do whatever it took. Remember?
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The chances are extremely high imo that this is totally fabricated.
Old Tom Morris
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HS stuff you let stew for 30 years should stay between your spouse and your therapist, and it's probably a good thing she has a therapist. The type of person that would do this likely needs one.
Texags is garbage
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"California professor".

What a ****ing surprise. I'm dying laughing.
Tom Hagen
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There is no way that a high school boy was trying to hit this:

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