Brett Kavanaugh rape allegations

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BallerStaf2003 said:

Bo Darville said:

BallerStaf2003 said:

I think the hardliners on this thread that say this all has to be made up are dismissing how difficult it was in the 80's and 90's for a woman to speak out about rape.

Both of my sisters were raped in college at JMU, and my mother was raped in Montreal. They never reported it. They moved on bc that was just what you did back then.

I think if you really think about the time They were in, it should give you a smidge if doubt of kavanaughs innocence.


I've also been a sexual harassment and assault advocate in the Army and have represented too many girls that lied to ruin the careers of others.


Exactly. Why this situation is just terrible for our country. It's like the lowest common denominator of gross.

If his best friend came forward and said that they got girls drunk to go poundtown on passed out girls, that would be about the level of testimony i would need to disqualify him. I think.

That would be a huge piece of corroborating evidence from a first hand witness. So I want to agree with you, but there would have to be caveats. It would have to be under sworn testimony provided to an actual law enforcement official. Its too easy to get paid to lie to the media.

But I doubt it happens because his best friend has likely been interviewed 3-5 times by the FBI for background checks. And there are major investigations by politicians themselves before nominating someone to check for major black marks like raping a girl in high school. This would already been known and would have prevented his nomination.

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BallerStaf2003 said:

BTHOB said:

BallerStaf2003 said:

Bo Darville said:

BallerStaf2003 said:

I think the hardliners on this thread that say this all has to be made up are dismissing how difficult it was in the 80's and 90's for a woman to speak out about rape.

Both of my sisters were raped in college at JMU, and my mother was raped in Montreal. They never reported it. They moved on bc that was just what you did back then.

I think if you really think about the time They were in, it should give you a smidge if doubt of kavanaughs innocence.


I've also been a sexual harassment and assault advocate in the Army and have represented too many girls that lied to ruin the careers of others.


Exactly. Why this situation is just terrible for our country. It's like the lowest common denominator of gross.

If his best friend came forward and said that they got girls drunk to go poundtown on passed out girls, that would be about the level of testimony i would need to disqualify him. I think.
Well, fortunately for you his friend has already adamantly denied that anything remotely resembling the claims occurred.


Mark Judge denied all claims?
Mark Judge issued a statement this morning through his attorney denying all claims made by this third accuser.
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It's noteworthy that each claim has become a bit more fantastical.

From a drunken unwanted boob grab, a flop on the bed, and an escape...to a drunken schlong in the face at college...to spiked drinks and organized gang rapes

No evidence will ever be presented to support these accusations, so it's critical that the accusations be ever increasingly salacious so that the mind can put aside any vestiges of skepticism in exchange for shock and indignation.

Not even the boys in Salem were audacious enough for this level of unsubstantiated character assassination. At least they had to produce a witches tit or whatever else might pass for evidence in that day.
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Flake speaking on the floor right now.

Sounds like he's about to cry. Apologizing to the "humans".
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BallerStaf2003
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It was like 15, 20, and 55 years ago man. It's past time for that.
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drcrinum said:



That's pretty much what we've been saying. CPL is just trying to muddy the waters with allegations with no proof to back it up. 1. to hopefully delay the confirmation vote, and 2. to get his leprechaun self back into the spotlight for a little longer.
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Flake on the floor of the Senate defending the accusers. He just apologized to them. What a ******. It's on Fox
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drcrinum said:




Sounds like she's a predator.
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Prognightmare said:

Flake on the floor of the Senate defending the accusers. He just apologized to them. What a ******. It's on Fox
He's a little b.
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This is all so the Democrats can run in front of the cameras and claim we now have a "pattern of behavior". Senator Blumenthal was just interviewed and he repeated "pattern" no less than 6 times.
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What's wrong with his nose?
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BallerStaf2003 said:

I think the hardliners on this thread that say this all has to be made up are dismissing how difficult it was in the 80's and 90's for a woman to speak out about rape.

Both of my sisters were raped in college at JMU, and my mother was raped in Montreal. They never reported it. They moved on bc that was just what you did back then.

I think if you really think about the time They were in, it should give you a smidge if doubt of kavanaughs innocence.
Because an actual rape carries a lot of things with it that what she's alleging doesn't. She isn't alleging a rape. Calling someone an a-hole for a boob-grab against your will doesn't really require nearly as much bravery either at the time it happened or later.

But she didn't even tell her good friend, who she claims to have been at this small party with here, about it. It just strains credulity for something like this to have occurred and for her to not have at least told her good friend contemporaneously something like "Brett Kavanaugh is a total jerk" or something. The most reasonable expectation would have been for her to have told her friend everything, which is what every girl in high school typically does.

We don't know what happened, and we never will. But looking at the totality of circumstances, you have to be skeptical of her claims.
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drcrinum said:



Statutory rape?
Rapier108
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Did she have her "sworn" affidavit notarized?

I'm not a lawyer, but IIRC, to be an actual legal document it would need to be.
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Would not be shocked if BK is asked if he has ever used the n word on Thursday.
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They've made up their minds because they know these women are COMPLETELY FULL OF *****
ProgN
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He just pulled it out of Feinstein's ass.
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Wildcat said:

It's noteworthy that each claim has become a bit more fantastical.

From a drunken unwanted boob grab, a flop on the bed, and an escape...to a drunken schlong in the face at college...to spiked drinks and organized gang rapes

No evidence will ever be presented to support these accusations, so it's critical that the accusations be ever increasingly salacious so that the mind can put aside any vestiges of skepticism in exchange for shock and indignation.

Not even the boys in Salem were audacious enough for this level of unsubstantiated character assassination. At least they had to produce a witches tit or whatever else might pass for evidence in that day.
Specifically they describe two different types of behavior.

In the first, Kavanaugh is the attacker.

Oops, it turns out he was a virgin through high school and college.

Now (since he can't be the attacker) he was the fixer that set up gang rapes by drugging girls.

All without (as you point out) a shred of actual evidence including contemporaneous stories told to friends of the "victims".
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drcrinum said:



Well I guess it's a good thing that "sworn statement" wasn't notarized after all. For her sake.

Avenatti is a slimebag. He needs to do the world a favor and walk in front of a bus.
BallerStaf2003
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Just.... no
Wildcat
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I must say that I never knew how Footloose my square town was. Every week was like the party over at Jake's in MD.

Houston Lee
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Kavanugh statement is that he doesn't know who this person is.
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Flake just said we will not get answers tomorrow and is supportive of a vote.
PanzerAggie06
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She was 20 and in college and was hanging out at high school parties? In high school we had a term for a person like that: loser.
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I think if you really think about the time They were in, it should give you a smidge if doubt of kavanaughs innocence.
Oh, for f/cks sake! This liar can remember Kavanaugh but can't name a single other person that can corroborate any of this. It's amazing! A woman a few years older than Kav, supposedly goes to gang rape parties and clearly remembers Kav (who she says didn't actually do any of the raping) but not a single other person. She is a liar. Open your eyes.

Edit- She also named Judge who everyone in America now knows was friends with Kav. Total lying pos woman.
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I heard CPL raped a 12 year old boy and made him transition.
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PanzerAggie06 said:

She was 20 and in college and was hanging out at high school parties? In high school we had a term for a person like that: loser.

That's what I love about these high school dudes...
**** THE RANGERS

**** GARCIA

ALTUVE IS GOD
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PanzerAggie06 said:

She was 20 and in college and was hanging out at high school parties? In high school we had a term for a person like that: loser.
Maybe the parties at her college didn't have enough gang rape for her liking?
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You were doing good too. Offered some real insightful thoughts and comments, but then you had to shoot one across the bow.
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WelchAg said:

Flake just said we will not get answers tomorrow and is supportive of a vote.
That sounds like a yes to me then, but he is still a little b.
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PanzerAggie06 said:

She was 20 and in college and was hanging out at high school parties? In high school we had a term for a person like that: loser.

Do we have definitive confirmation on her age in '82-83? I saw the tweet above, but is that credible?

This story unravels awfully quickly if she was in college and supposedly drinking with 15-17 yr old kids
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BallerStaf2003 said:

Alta said:

Nobody has a flawless or perfect record. I don't really care what he did in high school when he was 17. He seems like as an adult he has pretty good judgement.


If he participated actively in the drugging of women while in college, or even verbally abused women, he should not be on the greatest legal court in the world.

Sorry, that's just the standard I'd like to hold the court to.

If he was a Nazi guard at a concentration camp, he should not be on the greatest legal court in the world.

Sorry, that's just the standard I'd like to hold the court to


And it's just as possible as this whole line of accusations
Marcus Aurelius
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How much of these claims, if indeed there were "sexual" interactions, were actually consensual?
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Thats a yes. He's just grand standing to appease the left. Actually not the dumbest of ideas.
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