Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., promised that guilty parties will be held accountable after Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz releases his report on the FBI's alleged abuse of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) in the Russia investigation, and predicted that former bureau leaders James Comey and Andrew McCabe will face criminal charges after what he described as an attempted "coup" to take down President Trump.

The report will address concerns with whether or not the FBI acted improperly in obtaining a FISA warrant to monitor former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page in the early stages of their investigation of Russian election interference and possible Trump campaign connections. The Inspector General's office has already turned over a draft of its findings to Attorney General Bill Barr, and a final report is expected in the near future.

"We came the closest ever to this country having a coup, and now we need accountability," McCarthy told Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures." "I respect this attorney general so greatly, that the way he has handled this, he believes in accountability, but more importantly, he believes in the rule of law."

When asked if there will really be accountability, McCarthy promised, "Yes."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mccarthy-promises-accountability-as-barr-reviews-igs-fisa-report-the-closest-weve-ever-seen-to-a-coup
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Better odds of A&M beating Alabama, LSU, and Georgia than of any of the coup plotters going to prison.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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This is listed as a guest post on Gateway Pundit. The original article was published below:

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2019/09/michael-flynns-motion-to-compel-brady-evidence-is-compelling-by-larry-c-johnson.html

Written by Larry C. Johnson, former CIA analyst. It's a commentary on each of Sidney Powell's 40 specific Brady items requested in her memo to Judge Sullivan in the Flynn case. If you haven't gone over them, you are missing out. It's quite possible that there are behind-the-scenes people with insider knowledge who have assisted in the preparation of these specific requests; i.e., this wasn't a fishing expedition.
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That was a really good read. Thanks for sharing!
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Rapier108 said:

Better odds of A&M beating Alabama, LSU, and Georgia than of any of the coup plotters going to prison.
Indictments pre-2020 election will do this trick ... like finishing with another top-10 class and beating AL and LSU for 4 straight yrs 2020-24.
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And here is the surprise--Sidney Powell already has obtained, not from the government, several of these documents. If the Government claims they don't exist or they can't find them she present them to the judge and he will open a can of whoop ass on the Weissmann crowd.
I am curious as to how many prosecution team members are willing to risk their law licenses to cover up their malfeasance in Flynn's prosecution.
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And here is the surprise--Sidney Powell already has obtained, not from the government, several of these documents. If the Government claims they don't exist or they can't find them she present them to the judge and he will open a can of whoop ass on the Weissmann crowd.
I am curious as to how many prosecution team members are willing to risk their law licenses to cover up their malfeasance in Flynn's prosecution.
Why do so many people have TDS? Same thing.

You cannot explain it using logic, because the people who have TDS acquired their initial anti-Trump beliefs through emotions/sentiments associated with political parties, friends & peer pressure or because of selfish interests (money, power, etc.), In other words, their anti-Trump beliefs were not acquired through a logic/reasoning/evaluation process...the belief came first. After they had their beliefs, then they sought out 'logic' to support their beliefs. For this reason, you cannot argue with or understand why these people have TDS because their beliefs were not founded in logic. Make sense? I'm certain that McCabe/Comey/Lawfare/etc. firmly believe that Trump is evil & guilty. And once you demonstrate to them that they are wrong...prove their logic is wrong...then they will just migrate to other 'logic' which supports their beliefs. (I have close relatives who have TDS...at least they were once close.)

It's similar to growing up in a religious culture (I grew up in a staunch Catholic, extended family). You never question the culture as being wrong/misguided because your belief came prior to reasoning/logic. You are only receptive to 'logic' which supports your beliefs.

In the background & related: People will believe a lie because they wish it to be true...or because they are afraid that it is true.
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Question regarding jury selection... since this is a federal case, could this potential case happen outside of the beltway? Would that be something that the prosecution would strive for in this case?
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And here is the surprise--Sidney Powell already has obtained, not from the government, several of these documents. If the Government claims they don't exist or they can't find them she present them to the judge and he will open a can of whoop ass on the Weissmann crowd.
I am curious as to how many prosecution team members are willing to risk their law licenses to cover up their malfeasance in Flynn's prosecution.
The alternative probably pays better...
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This is where the strong human tendency towards confirmation bias comes in. Jonathan Haidt has studied this extensively.

Can I believe it? Positive confirmation bias: just find one decent piece of evidence what you want to believe is true, then assume that is all that is needed.

Must I believe it? Negative confirmation bias: just find one piece of evidence that what you don't want to believe is in fact false, then stop there and assume that is all that is needed.

We are all vulnerable to this, which is why there are such high standards of proof for important things like criminal prosecutions, or scientific research.

It shows up in selection bias when the investigators believe a certain person is guilty, then disregard evidence to the contrary, or even more disgustingly, attempt to conceal it.
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It's something to consider, but the media and the government are doing very well in that role, so we all have pretty much seen the contrary evidence that is publicly available as well, and near endless analysis of it from the leftist perspective.
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MouthBQ98 said:

It's something to consider, but the media and the government are doing very well in that role, so we all have pretty much seen the contrary evidence that is publicly available as well, and near endless analysis of it from the leftist perspective.
This ridiculous crap that nattering Nadler is spewing about an impeachment investigation is an admission that there is no basis on which to impeach Trump. None.

Impeachment is a political process not a criminal one. When a government official is impeached and removed from office, they can still be prosecuted as no double jeopardy has attached.

But Nadler's legal team is trying to create out of whole cloth a "judicial proceeding" within the meaning Rule 6(e)'s exception to the secrecy of grand jury material from the Mueller probe. They are going to argue with a straight face that the House needs access to that material because Mueller's team of 14 lawyers and near 40 FBI agents were incompetent and there really is a pony under that pile of BS.

But let's go back and consider just how close this exact situation would have played out without the DC Circuit Court of Appeals decision in McKeever v. Barr. That decision which is binding on the federal district courts within the DC circuit (where all of Nadler's cases have to be presented) was decided on April 5th of this year. Right after the Mueller Report had been submitted to Barr.

Before McKeever, there was a doctrine of "inherent authority" possessed by a federal court that enabled said court to disclose grand jury material irrespective of the enumerated exceptions within the statute. For say, like compelling public purpose. McKeever slapped down the "inherent authority" doctrine and held that the statute has to be followed strictly. If the request for grand jury material does not fall expressly under one the enumerated exceptions, then the court is powerless to order the release of grand jury material.

Without that decision, Nadler and company would have likely been rummaging around in grand jury material for months now.
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Short video.
Comey, McCabe, Strzok & Page each have the opportunity to review the draft OIG report on FISA abuse & to comment. So they will have a head start on preparing their criminal defenses. Hmmm.... I guess it really doesn't matter since (hopefully) most of the final report will be unredacted.
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Comey, McCabe, Strzok & Page each have the opportunity to review the draft OIG report on FISA abuse & to comment. So they will have a head start on preparing their criminal defenses. Hmmm.... I guess it really doesn't matter since (hopefully) most of the report will be unredacted.
Fire up the spinners and liars at the Lawfare blog offices. Comey's lawyers/leak recipients are in close collaboration. The talking points should be out as soon as today.

And anyone who turned (looking at you Lisa Page) will likely been suicided in the next few days. j/k I hope.
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....over a million records reviewed & over a hundred witness interviews....

Methinks there are more people on the Arkancide Watch List than just Lisa Page.
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This is listed as a guest post on Gateway Pundit. The original article was published below:

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2019/09/michael-flynns-motion-to-compel-brady-evidence-is-compelling-by-larry-c-johnson.html

Written by Larry C. Johnson, former CIA analyst. It's a commentary on each of Sidney Powell's 40 specific Brady items requested in her memo to Judge Sullivan in the Flynn case. If you haven't gone over them, you are missing out. It's quite possible that there are behind-the-scenes people with insider knowledge who have assisted in the preparation of these specific requests; i.e., this wasn't a fishing expedition.

Assuming the judge agrees with Powell, and orders the docs to be delivered, I don't see why the DOJ (Van Grack) doesn't ignore the order. He'' be held in contempt. but to my knowledge, that's not a real big deal to attorneys in DC.

Even if Sullivan agrees to a partial document order, there's bound to be some radioactive information, so it would be best if the government told the judge to pound sand. I want all of the information, but I can see where the government would tell Sullivan to kiss mine. To date, there hasn't been a disciplinary action that has been enough of a deterrent for anyone to be afraid, although I hope I'm very wrong.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
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Assuming the judge agrees with Powell, and orders the docs to be delivered, I don't see why the DOJ (Van Grack) doesn't ignore the order. He'' be held in contempt. but to my knowledge, that's not a real big deal to attorneys in DC.
After presiding over the Ted Stevens fiasco, Judge Sullivan added teeth to his Brady orders. Failure to comply is criminal contempt not just civil. Jail time.
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Thanks, you made my day better.

Even though his counsel would probably be pro bono, it would still be fun for that ******* to have to sweat.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
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May I assume that Comey, Macabe, Stroczk and Page getting 1st purview for comments, implies they are "THE" primary suspects/targets of Horowitz's report?

PS - FYI...noticed somewhere that Page is of Muslim descent via her Iranian mother. I know - 'racist', but IF true had no idea and was somewhat surprised.

Edits - 'typo'/'spelling'
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That's like using Planned Parenthood for baby sitting.
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That's like using Planned Parenthood for baby sitting.
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Great opportunity for DoJ lawyers to get Holder, Clapper, Brennan, and Rice under oath and on the record.

This isn't McCabe listing people that think highly of him, this is McCabe saying to those "witnesses" you better do something.
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That's like using Planned Parenthood for baby sitting.
When your character witnesses take the 5th because they too are under indictment or are targets of a grand jury investigation, it kind of defeats the purpose.

(Pssst, you don't need character witnesses unless there is a trial. It was only a few days ago that Team McCabe was floating the "rumor" that they planted in the press that McCabe was no billed.)
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WTF is his team thinking? How can they not see how this appears to the public at large? Even independents can see the character flaws in these "prospective" witnesses....or am I too biased to render judgment?
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They are banking on the jury being enamored with the former Obama administration still.
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MouthBQ98 said:

They are banking on the jury being enamored with the former Obama administration still.
So true and it makes me lol.
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MouthBQ98 said:

It's something to consider, but the media and the government are doing very well in that role, so we all have pretty much seen the contrary evidence that is publicly available as well, and near endless analysis of it from the leftist perspective.
You and jjMt are waaaay too reasonable and fair. If I have confirmation bias, and I'm sure I have a some, I will make efforts to review my thoughts, knowing that Republicans have done plenty of crappy things in the name of the party, or in their case, the country.

It seems like we've rectified a lot of issues in the last twenty years, not that we're gaffe free,, or corruption free. My point is that the Right has MORE than paid for their sins/crimes. It's also not worth it, because since 80% of the press sits like a gargoyle on a 1920's building. However, the Left rarely pays for their misdeeds and corruption. Hell, most of the country doesn't even know who Kermit Gosnell was!! Newsweek reported today that Trump stole pancakes when he was younger, although that may be an impeachable offense in my house.

In order to not have my ass handed to me, I read books and articles from both side in my 20's. The Right always seemed to have the best idea to help the country, not themselves. However, I'd be lying if I said I've not thought of us being wrong, or even a LITTLE wrong. The long term behavior of the Left just doesn't support the confirmation bias topic, and the Left would NVER consider the topic, they just want to kill you----kinda!
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
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fasthorses05 said:

MouthBQ98 said:

It's something to consider, but the media and the government are doing very well in that role, so we all have pretty much seen the contrary evidence that is publicly available as well, and near endless analysis of it from the leftist perspective.
You and jjMt are waaaay too reasonable and fair. If I have confirmation bias, and I'm sure I have a some, I will make efforts to review my thoughts, knowing that Republicans have done plenty of crappy things in the name of the party, or in their case, the country.

It seems like we've rectified a lot of issues in the last twenty years, not that we're gaffe free,, or corruption free. My point is that the Right has MORE than paid for their sins/crimes. It's also not worth it, because since 80% of the press sits like a gargoyle on a 1920's building. However, the Left rarely pays for their misdeeds and corruption. Hell, most of the country doesn't even know who Kermit Gosnell was!! Newsweek reported today that Trump stole pancakes when he was younger, although that may be an impeachable offense in my house.

In order to not have my ass handed to me, I read books and articles from both side in my 20's. The Right always seemed to have the best idea to help the country, not themselves. However, I'd be lying if I said I've not thought of us being wrong, or even a LITTLE wrong. The long term behavior of the Left just doesn't support the confirmation bias topic, and the Left would NVER consider the topic, they just want to kill you----kinda!
I just call 'em as I see 'em. If Trump were actually a crook or corrupt, get him the hell out of office. I was happy when Nixon threw in the towel and resigned.

I really don't start a bunch of threads but when I do it is because there is something that triggered my spidey senses, like Fusion, GPS or Perkins, Cooie. Started threads on both of those entities before either truly entered mainstream conversations. Things were adding up in a bad way with Perkins, Coie attorneys Elias and Sussmann and the client list, including CrowdStrike, Obama, Clinton's campaign arm, the DNC, Google (who owned a significant portion of CrowdStrike at the time) and the like.

Perkins, Cooie is like Bendini, Lambert & Locke in the movie, The Firm. Entire law firm is owned and directed by a different type of mob. Not the Mafia, but can only be described as Deep State. They really do not practice law as much as they do political dirty tricks. And McCain was on their "useful idiot" list.

And to bring this back around, if Nixon had used an outside law firm like Perkins, Cooie instead of the Attorney General's office with John Mitchell, he would have gotten away with it. A third rate burglary and a very covered up, cover-up.
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Everything McCabe's people put out is misinformation or lies
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Kinda like every Obama promise made was meant to be broken.
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