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I'm not self banning. There's a good chance that I'll continue on this thread. I just don't want to clutter it by arguing baseless and petty claims that I'm a troll.

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Everything you post is clutter

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That poster is truly a 14 year old or MFBarnes

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I know

Just home from my lunch date and Hannity was on in the car. I'm not usually a fan but he has had Sara Carter and the other guy she is working with (name escapes me at the moment) on recently so I have been tolerating him in case there is breaking news. He just had a big tease "There is something BIG coming tomorrow, and I mean REALLY BIG, and the people who are breaking the news will be this show exclusively tomorrow."

No idea how big it really is or if it's related to all this stuff, but...well tomorrow might be an interesting day. Seems like there is a lot of info coming out in the past few days.... maybe the process is accelerating...

John Solomon. And it is probably one of or both of them who are breaking the stories.

I know people think Hannity is a hack, but people should remember he has Carter and Solomon feeding him info. Oh, and the President of the United States is feeding him info, as well.

He has good sources.

Right, John Solomon. Thanks.

Well, until tomorrow...

A lot of people don't like Hannity because he can be way over the top, but when I challenge them to list what he's been wrong on, crickets.

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Rockdoc said:

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McCabe flipping to who? Mueller? I really can't see that unless there's a LOT more going on that we don't suspect.

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Guess he's saving his hide since Strzok and Priestap connects back to him?

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McCabe has not flipped. If he had he would have already been reassigned. The chance that he's just sitting in his office day after day with all of his phones and computers turned off to maintain some illusion that he hasn't is too unbelievable.

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Interesting you mention that...
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h/t captkirk

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A lot of people don't like Hannity because he can be way over the top, but when I challenge them to list what he's been wrong on, crickets.

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Yup, no argument from me on that. I just get tired of his ... vocal inflections I guess you could say. It grates on my nerves.

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Rockdoc said:

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A lot of people don't like Hannity because he can be way over the top, but when I challenge them to list what he's been wrong on, crickets.

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Yup, no argument from me on that. I just get tired of his ... vocal inflections I guess you could say. It grates on my nerves.

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He has to. That's the only way people will remember. He has to constantly inflect his voice and repeat what he is saying. Nowadays everyone's attention span it short.

Can someone help Trey Gowdy with his hair? Just asking.

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Can someone help Trey Gowdy with his hair? Just asking.

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Nothing wrong with his hair.

Matthew McConehay was born to play the role of Gowdy in the future films of how much of a bad ass he is.

Oh please use a different actor!

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Matthew McConehay

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Misspelling or "conehead" reference??

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Rockdoc said:

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Can someone help Trey Gowdy with his hair? Just asking.

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Nothing wrong with his hair.

Matthew McConehay was born to play the role of Gowdy in the future films of how much of a bad ass he is.

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oh wow. Now I see it. and I love it.

This has been an illuminating read. Nice thread and thanks to so many of you keeping up with this ugly mess. I have a much better handle on it now thanks to you here on TexAgs - Politics.

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This has been an illuminating read. Nice thread and thanks to so many of you keeping up with this ugly mess. I have a much better handle on it now thanks to you here on TexAgs - Politics.

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This has been the best thread on here by far. I hope it continues.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/941414700960636928

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Now here's what ELSE Horowitz discovers: FBI/DOJ officials who made use of this dossier knew it was tied to Hillary & that it was oppo research.

Through study of emails, text messages, phone calls and other records, Horowitz builds a case that demonstrates top FBI/DOJ people knew this Trump dossier was tied to the HRC campaign and the only way they could use it in FISA court was to MISREPRESENT IT to the judge.

IF Strzok & other FBI/DOJ people had ACCURATELY presented the dossier to the FISA court, it would have been inadmissible as political propaganda/oppo research.


Instead, they chose to present it as the result of INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY work.

The case Strzok & others were making to the FISA court to get that surveillance warrant was that top Trump people were likely COMPROMISED and working as AGENTS OF A FOREIGN POWER, namely Russia.

And instead of saying "And here's our proof, stuff from a dossier compiled by a former MI6 guy being paid by the HRC campaign thru #Fusion GPS!", the FBI/DOJ decided to BOLSTER their case for the warrant by misrepresenting where this information came from.

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Above is an interesting long speculative thread -- click on the threadreader. I've posted the relevant section. The theory presented is that to obtain the FISA warrant via the dossier, Strzok + Ohr + ? had to misrepresent it as being "intelligence" rather than being "paid opposition political research". Makes sense. If the FISA judge knew the dossier had originated via Fusion GPS/DNC/HRC, the warrant would never have been granted.

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Above is an interesting long speculative thread -- click on the threadreader. I've posted the relevant section. The theory presented is that to obtain the FISA warrant via the dossier, Strzok + Ohr + ? had to misrepresent it as being "intelligence" rather than being "paid opposition political research". Makes sense. If the FISA judge knew the dossier had originated via Fusion GPS/DNC/HRC, the warrant would never have been granted.

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Two things. I'll take them in order.

The June 16, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower requested by some Brit promoter of a Russian rock star claiming to have dirt on Hillary. They went through Don, Jr. Manafort and Kushner were there. So was Natalia Veselnitskaya (Russian national granted admission to the country under a special dispensation by Obama's State Department. They knew ho she was and how her presence could automatically trigger a FISA intercept as a foreign national.) Also there was Akmenistin (sp?) who was tied to Fusion, GPS.

That was a classic sting/set-up. Useful to bolster ties between the Trump campaign and Russian agents and hence the credibility of the dossier for a FISA warrant. Didn't work at first, apparently as the FISA judge denied the first request (reportedly) in July 2016. But it was enough to get the FBI to open the investigation.

In that way, the dossier was granted that type of gravitas as coming from an active FBI investigation when the warrant was granted in October 2016.

Make sense??

If you all remember Toonces was running his Ah Um Me I trap about Russia Russia Russia before the election for at least two or three months. I thought at the time that it was a strange topic and why would he be going on about it. Well. he was just seeding the clouds. I have no doubt that treasonous Kenyan is behind every bit of this.

Oh, it makes sense. It's been apparent to me for a long while now. Obama and hillary used the fisa court to spy on their political opponent. What will be even crazier than this, is the reaction from the media when it is brought to life. It will be spectacular

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Oh, it makes sense. It's been apparent to me for a long while now. Obama and hillary used the fisa court to spy on their political opponent. What will be even crazier than this, is the reaction from the media when it is brought to life. It will be spectacular

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Using the same "bag man" in Strzok was a bad move, in retrospect.

There is actually a positive in that thread for me. I'd actually be relieved to find out that they actually believed trump was colluding with Russia. I don't think they ever thought that. I believe it was a total hit job with zero cause.

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There is actually a positive in that thread for me. I'd actually be relieved to find out that they actually believed trump was colluding with Russia. I don't think they ever thought that. I believe it was a total hit job with zero cause.

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Malice. Animus. The federal government has been so far up Trump's azz for the last 30 years they could practically see out of his mouth when opened. They knew he wasn't a Russian spy, nor stooge.

Hence the set-up at Trump Tower.

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Above is an interesting long speculative thread -- click on the threadreader. I've posted the relevant section. The theory presented is that to obtain the FISA warrant via the dossier, Strzok + Ohr + ? had to misrepresent it as being "intelligence" rather than being "paid opposition political research". Makes sense. If the FISA judge knew the dossier had originated via Fusion GPS/DNC/HRC, the warrant would never have been granted.

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Two things. I'll take them in order.

The June 16, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower requested by some Brit promoter of a Russian rock star claiming to have dirt on Hillary. They went through Don, Jr. Manafort and Kushner were there. So was Natalia Veselnitskaya (Russian national granted admission to the country under a special dispensation by Obama's State Department. They knew ho she was and how her presence could automatically trigger a FISA intercept as a foreign national.) Also there was Akmenistin (sp?) who was tied to Fusion, GPS.

That was a classic sting/set-up. Useful to bolster ties between the Trump campaign and Russian agents and hence the credibility of the dossier for a FISA warrant. Didn't work at first, apparently as the FISA judge denied the first request (reportedly) in July 2016. But it was enough to get the FBI to open the investigation.

In that way, the dossier was granted that type of gravitas as coming from an active FBI investigation when the warrant was granted in October 2016.

Make sense??

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Except....It is extremely likely that the Trump Tower meeting was arranged via Fusion GPS -- Veselnitskaya met with Gregg Simpson just hours before and just hours after the Tower meeting, not to mention how she was able to even enter the USA as well as stay has not been disclosed. (And let's not forget that Nellie Ohr began working for Fusion GPS in June, and Bruce Ohr had already known Steele for circa 10 years and was at least professionally acquainted with Simpson.) The only way that meeting could definitely have been recorded was either: 1) Fusion GPS and the FBI coordinated the sting (wow!), and the likely operative would have been Veselnitskaya, a condition placed on her for entry into the USA (There was no existing warrant to bug the Trump Tower at that time...unless they manipulated strings on Manafort's old warrant...); or 2) Fusion GPS acted alone to record the meeting, again via Veselnitskaya...the reason for meeting Simpson before & after..., the motive being to use the recording for additional opposition research. But either way, in July, the FBI (Strzok?) met with Steele about the dossier, but we don't know if that was before or after the Trump Tower meeting. But...the FBI and the DOJ (Ohr) both knew in July that the dossier was paid opposition research originating from the UK/Russia and not 'intelligence' material. The initial FISA warrant request apparently was denied in July, but again we don't know dates...a lot happened in July. (Timelines would be helpful.) An FBI Team even met with Steele again in September, and we don't know yet if the FBI paid Steele (rumors -- egad if true) or paid Fusion GPS (a possibility). By October, the dossier was all about politics, not intelligence. No way it could pass for 'intelligence'...the FBI (Strzok) & DOJ (Ohr) had to know this...as did their superiors.

Just throwing this out there, but George Webb is claiming Lisa page is rosenstiens daughter

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Just throwing this out there, but George Webb is claiming Lisa page is rosenstiens daughter

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Jeebus!

We are getting into Lindsay Del Rio territory. Never want to go back there!

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Just throwing this out there, but George Webb is claiming Lisa page is rosenstiens daughter

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Jeebus!

We are getting into Lindsay Del Rio territory. Never want to go back there!

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Unless Rosenstein was married previously, this is most likely fake news. From what I can find he has 2 daughters, 17 and 15.

The Jeff Stealth thread is a must read.

Page being Rosensteins daughter??!?!!!!! lol <gulp>

I've been following Webb for awhile, and I have been afraid to post anything about this. Webb's tweets are very confusing at times.

But this:

Rod & Lisa Rosenstien daughters: Julia Paige and Allison Liza

Just a coincidence...but ironic.

Now the Senate Committee on Homeland Security & Government Affairs wants all the details on who made the changes to Comey's draft and why (reasoning). Johnson, the Committee Chair, sent a lengthy letter to Wray requesting the latter info by December 28. You can read it below:

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2017/images/12/14/2017-12-14.rhj.to.fbi.re.comey.july.5.statement.pdf

...amid heightened security? Does he know something is about to happen?

Wow

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...amid heightened security? Does he know something is about to happen?

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where is he getting "heightened security" from?

Heightened Security? Where? At Camp David or in DC? I am confused by that statement.

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Heightened Security? Where? At Camp David or in DC? I am confused by that statement.

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IF real...I'd like to know 'where' or 'whom' the threat is coming from that necessitates 'heightened security'? An individual, a group, the Deep State or God forbid, an agency w/i the govt.?????????