His dad was a bank robber. Of course he is a Democrat.BigHitterDaLama said:
His voter registration info was posted earlier. Democrat, registered in Palm Beach Couty, Florida in 4/11/1984.
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bjork said:It's false.daggertx said:BigHitterDaLama said:
His voter registration info was posted earlier. Democrat, registered in Palm Beach Couty, Florida in 4/11/1984.
Link?
It's important
It's sad that this is the info people are waiting with bated breath for.
AG 2000' said:ballchain said:Builder93 said:I was just about to point this out. No tall objects close to the airport.AG 2000' said:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Las+Vegas+Strip,+NV/@36.0944076,-115.1722872,977m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c8c4383428d4eb:0x43e2195d0c26834c!8m2!3d36.1147065!4d-115.1728484
That's the location. It's effectively adjacent to McCarrin Airport. He could have flown in straight over the airport without issue.
So now he, theoretically, busts Bravo unnoticed on radar, flies directly over McCarran while avoiding arriving/departing aircraft, and manages a perfect glide-slope (at @340fps) to the venue, all while being able to pick it out in the dark with precision. Sorry, still not buying it as a very effective method.
Why would he have to duck radar? McCarran's got a huge general aviation terminal and people fly in there all the time. Dude could even have taken off from there, declared an emergency, turned around and flown in.
And it's not like it was dark, they had a concert going on with huge spotlights on the stage and crowd.
Feels weird to discuss. Really coulda been much worse, his method of attack is curious.
Seriously. Did you not play GTA San Andreas? You can **** up the whole city before they take you down.
Again, not a pilot, but I do know I saw 3 guys slam much bigger planes into buildings in NY and DC going much faster with less training.ballchain said:Builder93 said:I was just about to point this out. No tall objects close to the airport.AG 2000' said:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Las+Vegas+Strip,+NV/@36.0944076,-115.1722872,977m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c8c4383428d4eb:0x43e2195d0c26834c!8m2!3d36.1147065!4d-115.1728484
That's the location. It's effectively adjacent to McCarrin Airport. He could have flown in straight over the airport without issue.
So now he, theoretically, busts Bravo unnoticed on radar, flies directly over McCarran while avoiding arriving/departing aircraft, and manages a perfect glide-slope (at @340fps) to the venue, all while being able to pick it out in the dark with precision. Sorry, still not buying it as a very effective method.
Besides, who's going to stop him once he's coming around?
Yes his GF and his electronics are key to his motives.
Will be interesting what they find.
Will be interesting what they find.
can u see us all down here from that lofty perch of yours?
Sharpshooter said:His dad was a bank robber. Of course he is a Democrat.BigHitterDaLama said:
His voter registration info was posted earlier. Democrat, registered in Palm Beach Couty, Florida in 4/11/1984.
And ended being not sly enough for fbi
oneeyedag said:
Yes his GF and his electronics are key to his motives.
Will be interesting what they find.
Anything on girlfriend? I haven't seen.
Can y'all take the debate of the most effective way to kill people to another thread? WTH is wrong with y'all?
I've seen nothing being reported.
Thanks, kayakag.kayakag said:
Can y'all take the debate of the most effective way to kill people to another thread? WTH is wrong with y'all?
kayakag said:
Can y'all take the debate of the most effective way to kill people to another thread? WTH is wrong with y'all?
Some of us folks do this sort of thing for a living, or did prior to retiring.
But it's always a good idea to have your head on a swivel and know ingress and egress points when you arrive.
Seriously. Flagging all of this garbage
Sunrise Hospital:
Low end, which is a Mac-10, runs $4-6k. Most AR/DIAS/AK are in the $18-30k range.Rapier108 said:It does matter. Pre-1986 can still be sold to someone who goes through the necessary background checks and pays the for tax stamp. Anything made after 1986 cannot be sold to civilians and only sold by dealers who are licensed to handle them, and are sold only to approved entities such as law enforcement.Premium said:Rapier108 said:
Cops already said they were illegally modified so whether he did it himself, or paid someone to do it, is irrelevant. They weren't legal to own automatic weapons.
He likely would not have wanted to scrutiny of the background check in order to buy them legally.
You brought it up, not me. If you're talking about automatic guns pre 1986 being prohibitively expensive, I'm asking how much. Also, I would say it doesn't matter what year a gun was made - I'm pro guns, but if they are illegal now it doesn't matter to me what year it was manufactured.
As for cost, low end pre-1986 automatic weapon would be 10-15K with some rare, high quality ones into the six figures.
Sunrise is a level II trauma center, would hate to see University Medical Center.
Got my hand pieced back together at UMC. My thoughts last night were with the victims and first responders and or course the doctors and surgeons. For those who pray, don't forget them and the hellish night they went through and still are fighting to save lives.oneeyedag said:
Sunrise is a level II trauma center, would hate to see University Medical Center.
Beyond the physically injured, there are so many people that are going to need treatment for PTSD. This scene and extended length of the assault is going to cause some serious issues for many.
Start new thread and use this as header.kayakag said:
Can y'all take the debate of the most effective way to kill people to another thread? WTH is wrong with y'all?
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Whoa.... can we go back and revisit this?bmks270 said:
4chan unearthed a 2015 "photosphere" that has the room pointing to the festival. Creepy as hell of real.
https://out.reddit.com/t3_73wkus?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fmaps%2F%4036.094982%2C-115.172864%2C3a%2C90y%2C181.58h%2C60.36t%2Fdata%3D%213m7%211e1%213m5%211sAF1QipNl_tRYUHT4rSwIvoJwglt-pJ3ai7VTwj8eWbAg%212e10%213e12%217i12000%218i6000&token=AQAAR9rSWdtFo32pb5AmO_la6xwVgNwbAELeBfAX-mow5a9UT9eP&app_name=mweb2xQuote:
I'm not OP but, a Google poster by the username of "AZ Flyguy" has Photospheres of different places he's visited. The linked photosphere here shows the exact location of the shooting, and where the shooter was. The original post was posted in January of 2015, but I can't tell if it has been edited or not since the shooting.
Reading up on the photosphere on other sites, it was posted the day before Paddock purchased his house
If this has been premeditated since 2015, this isn't political
Authorities must be keeping some things secret. Everything published indicates this guys had a pretty good life but seems kind of like a loner... planes, multiple homes in FL, Las Vegas, and other states... seemed to travel around a lot.... had some girlfriend and that relationship... well I'm curious what we will learn about her if anything ever. Rare for someone with this guys seeming wealth and lifestyle to commit such a crazy act. Maybe suicidal but this desire to kill others is way out of place. I'm sure the investigators will unearth some sort of anger or ideology (or mental illness) behind his actions, but they haven't given any hints yet.
Bobcat06 said:Whoa.... can we go back and revisit this?bmks270 said:
4chan unearthed a 2015 "photosphere" that has the room pointing to the festival. Creepy as hell of real.
https://out.reddit.com/t3_73wkus?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fmaps%2F%4036.094982%2C-115.172864%2C3a%2C90y%2C181.58h%2C60.36t%2Fdata%3D%213m7%211e1%213m5%211sAF1QipNl_tRYUHT4rSwIvoJwglt-pJ3ai7VTwj8eWbAg%212e10%213e12%217i12000%218i6000&token=AQAAR9rSWdtFo32pb5AmO_la6xwVgNwbAELeBfAX-mow5a9UT9eP&app_name=mweb2xQuote:
I'm not OP but, a Google poster by the username of "AZ Flyguy" has Photospheres of different places he's visited. The linked photosphere here shows the exact location of the shooting, and where the shooter was. The original post was posted in January of 2015, but I can't tell if it has been edited or not since the shooting.
Reading up on the photosphere on other sites, it was posted the day before Paddock purchased his house
If this has been premeditated since 2015, this isn't political
It's not at all. If you read through the entire thread they figure out that the date shown of the photo is from the data in the file of when the photo was taken but it does not show the date it was edited. Basically google is showing the date it was taken but it does show it was modified today before posting if you analyze it. Dude added the triangulation lines today and posted.
His username as also Az flyguy led of some to believe it was the shooter posting it. But it was not. Poster had posted several similar things before from hotels he stayed in. He just happened to stay in that suite in 2015 and took then 360 view pic.
Those 4chan freaks are hard to follow between all of the insults and cussing each other out. It's like the football board.
The NYPD commissioner came out and said if a silencer was used that nobody would have heard any shots at all. Morons should not hold public office...
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Really enjoying the science and number crunching and google fu of everyone trying to see how this dude could have killed more people.
To beat a killer you have to think like one and anticipate their moves. Same logic behind White Hat Hackers. I'd rather they expose a potential weakness in our defenses as a thought experiment while we still have time to fix it than have someone exploit it in real life
Ugh.
Hannity just mentioned a teacher that tweeted out something like let's hope only Trumptards were killed.
I hadn't seen that one. WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE.
They had talked about the lawyer chick too and Hillary but that one was new for me.
Makes me sick.
Hannity just mentioned a teacher that tweeted out something like let's hope only Trumptards were killed.
I hadn't seen that one. WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE.
They had talked about the lawyer chick too and Hillary but that one was new for me.
Makes me sick.
Holy cow, the video Hannity just showed of the concert crowd singing God Bless America an hour before the shooting...
I do not understand the lib hate for suppressors....
By the same logic the left is using, then no cars should have mufflers so that pedestrians can hear them before being run over.
By the same logic the left is using, then no cars should have mufflers so that pedestrians can hear them before being run over.
Heard a caller on the radio today and didn't see it mentioned here so I figured I'd share.
Guy calls in to talk radio show who was a former neighbor of his for a little less than a year in Mesquite (didn't specify if Texas or Nevada IIRC).
Anyways, this guy who called is former military and said to him this doesn't fit. He says Paddock and him would hang out together randomly at a bar that was right around the corner....would talk, BS around...he'd play this slot machine game at the bar and all that.
But the biggest thing, was that this guy who was former military would mention things like his service, guns, government, etc....and Paddock showed zero signs of any hard feelings towards it.
Never talked about guns. Really never brought up government or any feelings toward it. Wasn't a religious fanatic.
Just chit chatted a lot and after work in afternoons would sit outside in the driveway to relax and wave at people as they walked by.
This guy was so convinced that Paddock couldn't have done this, that he feels he wasn't the shooter. That whoever the shooter was killed him and left his body there to make it appear he did it.
Obviously who the hell knows. Just found it very interesting and curious if this will come out in the mainstream media.
Guy calls in to talk radio show who was a former neighbor of his for a little less than a year in Mesquite (didn't specify if Texas or Nevada IIRC).
Anyways, this guy who called is former military and said to him this doesn't fit. He says Paddock and him would hang out together randomly at a bar that was right around the corner....would talk, BS around...he'd play this slot machine game at the bar and all that.
But the biggest thing, was that this guy who was former military would mention things like his service, guns, government, etc....and Paddock showed zero signs of any hard feelings towards it.
Never talked about guns. Really never brought up government or any feelings toward it. Wasn't a religious fanatic.
Just chit chatted a lot and after work in afternoons would sit outside in the driveway to relax and wave at people as they walked by.
This guy was so convinced that Paddock couldn't have done this, that he feels he wasn't the shooter. That whoever the shooter was killed him and left his body there to make it appear he did it.
Obviously who the hell knows. Just found it very interesting and curious if this will come out in the mainstream media.
bmks270 said:
I do not understand the lib hate for suppressors....
By the same logic the left is using, then no cars should have mufflers so that pedestrians can hear them before being run over.
Libs hate anything they don't understand.
Which means they hate most everything.
Cow Hop Ag and Bayside both say they are conservatives.
Bayside admits to being pro choice.
Bayside calls Cow Hop Ag a liberal because he's a moral man.
/ Charpie 4-13-18
Bayside admits to being pro choice.
Bayside calls Cow Hop Ag a liberal because he's a moral man.
/ Charpie 4-13-18
Very weird to get to that age with a spotless record and then pull something like this. But I'm sure the casino footage has plenty of video of him going/coming on his own. Psychopaths can be decent at putting up a front. They can be quite bright and manipulative. I'm wondering if he's committed murder before (or other psychopathic/deviant behavior) but was smart enough to get away with it.
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