2009 football schedule has us playing baylor at home the saturday before turkey day. since when do we play on that weekend? and I am curios to see how that will fall in with Bonfire.

There is a first time for everything, I guess. Though this is really underhanded, even for an administration of no-army 2%ers.

I'll be at burn.

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so burn the night before...it's a home game...

Is that where Aggie football has fallen? Burning before playing Baylor.

Since the times haven't been announced yet though, maybe it'll be an afternoon or morning game. Imagine if everyone was in town for the afternoon, then happen to wander out towards Hearne for the evening...could be quite a crowd.

I like the way you think, Fitch.

Fitch is right, this could be helpful. If the timing of the game works out to be favorable, there should be an attempt to capitalize on the crowd. "Attend Bonfire" t-shirts, etc.

Yeah this would be awesome. If anyone gets word on when the game will fall please post.

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Is that where Aggie football has fallen? Burning before playing Baylor.

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let me clarify...

the night before t.u.

That would be the traditional time for Burn, it being a home game and all. I'll be there either way, wouldn't miss the 10yr and centennial anniversary for anything.

Times for the football games are up. looks like its a 2:30 game. on average i'd say games are about 3 hours (feel free to argue that). perfect amount of time after the game to grab some chow and arrive by dark-thirty... a lot of potential if that ends up being the date for Burn.

It has been a few years since I have payed much attention to what time football games are, but I thought all games were subject to change up to the saturday or sunday before the game for the TV rights.

FHK, they are. It is up to the all mighty dollar, erm, I mean, TV stations. If they want it changed, it will get changed.

That is what I thought. I just wanted to make sure that people in charge think about it, but I am sure that they do.

Whatever is most like the old days, the better. Personally, I'd like to think we could plan SB the night of the Baylor game, to see all the former students there, but in reality, who's to say whatever a**hat is in charge of game times wouldn't change the time (or be influenced to change the time) the week before just to spite us?

Night before t.u. game is my vote. Isn't that Ol'Army anyway?

Come and see Student Bonfire!
Fulfilling the burning desire...

As much as I'd love to see it burn the night before the game, the logistics just aren't practical.

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to see all the former students there,

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I am willing to bet that the majority of former students will either be en route back home or too tired to make it all the way out to Hearne.

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but in reality, who's to say whatever a**hat is in charge of game times wouldn't change the time (or be influenced to change the time) the week before just to spite us?

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Not everything is about Bonfire. And this disrespectful kind of attitude is exactly why Reslife and other organizations dislike the off campus participants. The "holier than thou" attitude of the active participants has really pissed me off the last couple of years. What a turn off.


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Jayci, I think that hollier than thou attitude is just Aggies in general (face it, we are better than everyone else ). It's only when it's something you may not agree with completely that it gets under the skin.

Well of course we are!

But to have the attitude among other Aggies? Nonesense!

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Look, as someone who was practically kicked out of another organization (it was "suggested" that I quit) because I participated in SB, I can't help but feel like there is a little bit of a bias against us on campus. I quote, "If those are the kind of people you want to associate yourself with,"XXX" sorority doesn't want to associate themselves with you."

Progress is being made, and I'm so glad, but we still have a long way to go.

They post security guards beside our tables in Sbisa during dorm dinner. We get in trouble for anything "disruptive" including tossing a napkin across the table or for pushing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the corps would be allowed to push in Duncan. But I don't know for sure.

Some of our leadership got in trouble this past year for "soliciting" while they were trying to recruit people to Bonfire. Yet no annoying girl selling Mary Kay ever got in trouble going door to door, and campaigning for student government is WAY more irritating than anything Bonfire participants have ever done.

I just feel a little discrimination, that's all.

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Yet no annoying girl selling Mary Kay ever got in trouble going door to door, and campaigning for student government is WAY more irritating than anything Bonfire participants have ever done.

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You have GOT to be kidding me. Are you that blind to the destruptive nature that participants living on the northside of campus involved in SB tend to share? Given, not all participants naturally, but the bad apples certainly carry their weight when it comes to representation.

If you think that they put security guards besides your tables at Sbisa because they don't agree with Student Bonfire, then you've got another thing coming. Those tables have EARNED those security guards because of the disrespectful and childish actions that cause problems for the average Joe going to eat dinner at Sbisa and wind up in the middle of a food fight. You get in trouble for "tossing" a napkin because they now have to enforce a no tolerance policy for all of the past trouble caused.
And I find it unusual that your sorority asked you to quit because of your affiliation, because my sorority found it very intriguing. If your individual actions did not reflect poorly on the sorority, I find it hard to believe that your representation of their organization would have been a problem solely because of your participation in SB.

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I agree with you when it comes to a bias on campus, and I think that initially it was carried over from the actions of the bonfire hooligans of the past which was not fair, but I think that the unruly students of today have ruined it for everyone when it comes to the biases that might be experienced today.

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I didn't explain myself properly. What I meant was, SB's RECRUITING isn't bothering anyone. I never meant to say that we NEVER bothered anyone. I'm quite sure we did that. But being punished for asking people if they were interested in participating isn't bothering anyone.

Also, we DID have a girl cut with us, in a different sorority than me, and hers, like yours, did find it intriguing and supported her. Unfortunately, mine didn't. As I'm sure you know, every greek organization does things differently.

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who's to say whatever a**hat is in charge of game times wouldn't change the time (or be influenced to change the time) the week before just to spite us?

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I hate to break it to you but the powers that be that control the football schedule couldn't give a rat's ass about Bonfire.

How do you guys recruit on campus for bonfire?

Honestly a lot of it is through XXX hall council, some hall councils on northside are bonfire people. It's so we, as a group, can participate in campus events like Big Event or Relay for Life. We also do stuff like barbeques, movie nights, ice cream parties, and stuff like that. We post flyers around the dorm as hall council, and then ask people if they're interested in SB at these events. But, there are people in these hall councils that don't participate in SB.

What got us in trouble was knocking on people's doors. Once. It is against the rules to do such things, but we're the only people (that I know of) that had this rule enforced on us.

I think another thing that is frowned upon (that was the most effective form of recruitment, in my opinion) were the parties during Howdy week and throughout the semester...if you can see why without me explicitly stating it. Also, a lot of the dumbassery that goes on on campus, especially on northside, is always linked to bonfire kids in some way, and is usually accurate. There's a lot of negatives about the bonfire culture that stand out to leadership on campus, like maybe your sorority or GHD's, that unfortunately tends to outweigh the positives like the philanthropic participation like you've mentioned above.

When I was there, that kind of dumbassery never really went on in Neeley, but that might be because it wasn't coed yet. It is unfortunate that the loud acts of few stand out and leave so many at a disadvantage, like you've mentioned. Anyway, I just wanted to portray that I can't blame them for discriminating against a lot of the bonfire kids until proven trustworthy; the evidence is stacked against them.


Uhhh and yeah...Baylor...rabble rabble!

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Did you ever consider that the "northside" rucus would be going on regardless if bonfire was around or not. Do you think that durring the time between on and off campus that northside was peacefull and calm? Yeah right. There is no doubt that bonfire folk cause hell but no more than any other "organized" group causes (frats, fish camp, the corps, etc.) bonfire just gets more heat because its the "we're not really sure what to do about this" group.

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Nope, I think that the ruckus is very dominantly perpetuated by bonfire folk, and I'll tell you why. The dorm loyalty that is shared among Northsiders is something to be envied by other educational institutions and is apart of what makes our university one of the coolest. It breeds community and that is something that is priceless. However, the downside is that because bonfire participants are funneled in to the organization primarily through different dorms (save for OCA), the dorm serves as their home base, for all intents and purposes, as this is not the case for fraternities and organizations like Fish Camp. All legal forms of recruiting are done through hall council or door knocking, as stated above, and the chiefs/chairs of each dorm are expected to continue living in the dorm. Fraternities and Fish Camp, etc, take their shenanigans elsewhere. You don't see the corps destroying their own dorm a la Moses Hall or placing bikes in trees

I'm not making the claim that this wasn't the case before bonfire fell, because I'm sure that the old army kids were just as unruly. It still doesn't make it okay to erupt in a food fight in the middle of a dining hall where other people outside of bonfire choose to eat unknowing that they are about to have to duck under tables or leave before they finished their meal.

That wasn't the point of my original post though. The point was that there is this mentality that "everyone is out to get me" among students in regard to bonfire and that's not the case. As NoAC said, they probably couldn't give a crap about when burn is scheduled. It was just a lighthearted speculation from 00; he was just pointing out the abnormality, probably without serious intent. Think beyond bonfire.

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gah, people always complain about a simple bicycle in a tree... but you never hear anyone making a fuss when the bike just straight up disappears

Hey Jayci, regarding on campus vs off campus shenanigans, I was written up by reslife/SCRS for "planning to have an event off campus that never happened".

Can you expand a little on that so that I better understand? It seems a little far fetched that you'd be written up for planning an event.

Jayci, you have no idea what some people were written up for to get them kicked out of the dorm.

I found that lots of times it wasn't the bonfire people that would cause the problems, but the friends of the bonfire people. The people that actually care about bonfire and actively participate aren't going to jeopardize this by doing dumb things.

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Moses destroyed their own dorm. One of the recent Crocker chiefs threw a chair and shattered an FHK glass door. Those are just two things that I can think of off the top of my head. They weren't discriminated against because they were involved in Bonfire, they were discriminated because they were trouble makers.