To be fair to current Disney, production of Snow White started under different management. I didn't think you can say they never learn. It seems like they have made changes recently, but are still stuck with some projects from years ago. I think it was supposed to come out a while ago, but has been pushed multiple times. I think this might be the last major release which started under the old management ( not certain of that).

They should have just batgirled it and called it a day like a year ago instead of trying to reshoot half of it and CGI the dwarves. If they were going to redo so much, they should have ****canned Zegler and hired a bunch of little people to play the dwarves. Would have fixed 90% of their problems right there instead of creating 7 horrific new ones.

I didn't even realize it opens this week.



Is this about to become the biggest flop in Disney history? Especially considering all the trouble behind the scenes with "recasting" the dwarfs multiple times.

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95% of audiences will have never seen those interviews, and will have zero awareness of the behind-the-scenes-drama in general. Rather, they're families simply looking to get out of the house and get their kids in a theater for two hours, who aren't chronically online and could not care less about this nonsense.

How many more threads like this are there going to be, where a bunch of grown ass men complain about a Disney movie for kids (little girls, specifically), say it's going to bomb, only for it to eventually make a **** ton of $$$. This has to be, like, the fourth or fifth time we've done this, and no one has learned their lesson yet.

Yes, this movie looks terrible. Yes, the whole dwarf thing has been ridiculous every step of the way, from Dinklage's comments through to the final, atrocious product. Yes, Zegler has been annoying. The only fascinating thing about any of this is the Israeli/Palestine conflict somehow playing out, in meta fashion, via a Snow White movie.

But none of that is going to stop this movie from making a **** ton of $$$.

In fact, between this, Michael - the new Michael Jackson biopic dropping a month later - and Minecraft in between, I'm predicting one of the biggest springs of all time at the box office, come next year. I won't be watching a single one, but fail this movie will not.

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Care you change your prediction before Thursday?

Michael ended up getting pushed to fall, so no this will not end up being the highest grossing spring anymore. I don't know how that's a "gotcha," though. That said, against all odds, reactions for Snow White are through the roof so far. With no other kids/family movies for weeks, I still say it does fairly big numbers…

Disney's "Snow White" is being called "one of the best live-action remakes in years" in strong first reactions.

“A visual feast with show-stopping new musical numbers. The screenplay wisely gives its heroine newfound depth," writes Variety's Katcy Stephen.

“‘Snow White’ is not… pic.twitter.com/sUQgghWa6l

— Variety (@Variety) March 17, 2025

O/U $500M worldwide?

I'll say just slightly under.

Minecraft might actually end up doing more.

My teenager has been playing Minecraft for over a decade

He thinks that movie looks horrible.

I wonder if it will do well.

TCTTS said:

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Michael ended up getting pushed to fall, so no this will not end up being the highest grossing spring anymore. I don't know how that's a "gotcha," though. That said, against all odds, reactions for Snow White are through the roof so far. With no other kids/family movies for weeks, I still say it does fairly big numbers…

Disney's "Snow White" is being called "one of the best live-action remakes in years" in strong first reactions.

“A visual feast with show-stopping new musical numbers. The screenplay wisely gives its heroine newfound depth," writes Variety's Katcy Stephen.

“‘Snow White’ is not… pic.twitter.com/sUQgghWa6l

— Variety (@Variety) March 17, 2025

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I'll wait til some of the non- shills/non industry "insiders" start chiming in with their reviews. While I think many of those who want to hate this for overt political reasons are going to chime in with their negative reviews soon, with many doing so without even watching it, likewise many of those people of a certain opposite political leaning were going to unabashedly sing its praises regardless of its actual quality just to stick it to the former crowd. Both are disingenuous. This one review screams that. "Is being called the best ever", "X actress IS Snow White". It's so cliche I don't buy it.

I hear you. Personally, I could not care less whether it's good or not. I was merely pointing to those reactions not as evidence that it's a genuinely great movie, but that it likely won't be the all-time bomb many want it to be. We shall see…

Given the amount of re-shoots and re-writes they've done I would be surprised if there isn't SOMETHING good about the movie even if it flops.

The mirror is dead ass wrong this time.

Snow White looks like her mom had a 9 month paint thinner happy hour. Just atrocious. Even though they had marching orders, whoever cast this movie should be beyond embarassed. Maybe they could redeem themselves and cast this ***** in splice 2.

Those are basically the only people Disney has allowed to see the movie, though, and even Disney doesn't seem to have any confidence in it at all. The Little Mermaid did ~$600 million worldwide with $117 million opening weekend. Snow White is projected at less than half that to open and has many of the same problems and then some. Unless this thing grows legs, no pun intended, it's going to flop pretty damn hard (also, no pun intended).

First of all, a number of positive reactions so far are from reputable critics. They're not all Disney shills or whatever, and some of the tweets even acknowledge how surprised they are that the movie actually works. Did Disney likely invite mostly Disney-friendly "critics"? Almost assuredly so. But even the credible ones are admitting it's better than they thought it'd be. Again, that doesn't mean there won't be a wave of negative reviews to come, I'm just saying it's not all shills praising the movie.

As for The Little Mermaid comparison, you have to consider the release strategy for each movie as well, with TLM releasing on Memorial Day weekend, up against…

- Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
- Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
- Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
- Pixar's Elemental

… in the weeks just before/after it hit theaters. Granted, not all of those are direct competition, but they're all PG/PG-13/"family" blockbusters and two of them are animated. Never mind all the late June and July competition as well.

Whereas Snow White has virtually no competition, save for Minecraft, for weeks and weeks and weeks, at a time when most family movies are currently over-performing. In other words, even if Snow White only does $50M this weekend, again, outside of Minecraft, it basically has a six-week runway until Thunderbolts*, and a NINE-WEEK runway until the next legit family blockbuster, Lilo & Stitch.

To be clear, as I said before, I think everything about this movie has been exhausting. I think it looks terrible, I think Gal Gadot is a bad actress, and I find Rachel Zegler to be increasingly annoying/entitled.

I'm not rooting for this movie to succeed.

My only point is, if it's is even halfway decent, because of how starved families are for family fare, and given how barren the family movie landscape is until summer, it's likely not going to be the bomb so many clearly want it to be - even if it doesn't have a massive opening weekend - and that it could, in fact, end up be a decent-sized hit.

I just checked opening day at my local theater. Less than 20 tickets sold over 10 showings. I think you may be overestimating this one.

I literally just said that even if it doesn't have a big opening weekend ($50M is on the low side in terms of projections), that if word-of-mouth is good/decent, it still has over two months to perform and grow, virtually competition free. I'm not saying it will, just that a lack of ticket sales in some markets on the Monday of release week may not be the ultimate/best indicator of its final numbers.

Even if it stumbles its way to $100 m domestic and $250m worldwide, that's still recouping some of your losses and then suckering another bunch of people to stream it in a couple of months. Batgirl must have been just 90 minutes of excrement to where DC with its already weak brand management thought "OMG we can't release this at all."

For my $, only Beauty and the Beast has been a great live-action remake Disney movie even though several of them have made strong bank. But you really have to put yourself in the mindset of a parent / a daycare manager / a church youth director about movies like this. Even if they are dog ****, it's a movie for kids that will shut them up for 2 hours, maybe teach them a life lesson, but mostly make them be quiet for a while.
Those of us who have passed through the young children phase can tell you horror stories of movies we've sat through for the sake of a couple of hours of peace.

It went up against those movies and still made $120 million opening weekend. Snow White is going up against nothing and looking at $50 million.

You really think it's going to go 10x the projected opening? That's Beauty and the Beast territory and better than Cinderella, neither of which had any of the issues this does. If it does the typical 3-4x opening domestic (I think 4x would be pushing it) and does about equal internationally, it's looking at $300-$400 million territory. The math just doesn't add up to a $500 million run as it is right now.

Guardians was the only movie of those that was already out when TLM hit theaters. In other words, the others had no bearing on TLM's opening weekend, but definitely affected all other weekends in its immediate wake, which was my main point.

Speaking of Elemental, it opened to only $29M, but because of good word of mouth, went on to gross nearly $500M worldwide. So, yes, IF good word of mouth continues for Snow White, it could totally do close to $500M as well, considering it has WAY more runway and is facing FAR less competition than Elemental did. Will it? I have no idea. Was Elemental a rare instance? No doubt. I'm just saying, the conditions are right for Snow White to potentially/eventually outperform expectations.

If the movie is in fact great, I think it could end up with decent numbers. It's going to to take normal viewers saying it's great, not critics. I didn't think people will trust critical in this. It has to be great, too. If it's just average (which is still better than it appears now), I don't think it will be enough to get decent numbers. There are a lot of people who want this to fail. More than want it to succeed.

If the numbers appear decent it would be due in large part to inflation. Comparisons with previous year releases should be made on seat numbers, not total revenue, for a better performance comparison.

Inflation since 2023, when TLM released? Ticket prices haven't risen in any meaningful way since then, at least not to the degree that would support your argument. You guys are grasping at straws now.

Anyone here going to actually spend money to slog through this?

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Inflation since 2023, when TLM released? Ticket prices haven't risen in any meaningful way since then, at least not to the degree that would support your argument. You guys are grasping at straws now.

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Ok I was actually thinking TLM was older than that by a couple years. But still inflation in the last two years has been bad. I'd cut 10% off the top to get a more "poisoned apple to poisoned apple" comparison. Or use seat numbers - no need to adjust for inflation with those to see how many people go and compare with past results.

We're really starting to split hairs here.

Again, in a thread full of grown men complaining about a Snow White movie, where the thread title is literally wondering why Disney doesn't just cancel the movie, I'm simply saying A) it's probably not going to bomb, and B) it in fact has a chance to make more money than most here are expecting, a claim which is now bolstered by (albeit early) positive reactions, after everyone and their dog had written this thing off. It's others here who are trying to peg a number to its success or compare it to other movies. I'm simply responding.

I could be wrong, though!

I just find it funny how many times we've been through this exact same song and dance, and how desperately certain grown men consistently need Disney movies made for little girls to fail so as to enable their virtue signaling and "confirm" their political ideologies. Granted, I realize that description only applies to a handful here, and that most everyone else is simply baffled by the creative/casting choices. To that I say, again, I'm right there with you.

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Anyone here going to actually spend money to slog through this?

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A lack of competition can turn what could have been flip into a decent return, or a so-so performance into a hit. I think the Venom movies have all done this. They weren't particularly beloved but they go on a 3- or 4-week run at the top of the box office and suddenly they're doing great. I don't know a single person that liked Venom 3 but somehow it made $470m on a $120m budget.

It's my go-to example but the summer of 2016 was big film after big film, and barely any of them got sequels because they'd all cannibalize each other. Star Trek Beyond would open at #1, then Jason Bourne took #1 for a week, then something else came along - etc. In the end, they all underperformed. You need a runway.

Dang. It's been 9 years since Star Trek Beyond?

Zachary Quinto is going to be following Leonard Nimoy's timeline for Spock appearances if they don't get going again.

Just checking in.

Disney’s ‘SNOW WHITE’ remake debuts on Rotten Tomatoes at 45%

Read our review: https://t.co/EoPFh5OZQn pic.twitter.com/1MdKJye1Pf

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) March 19, 2025

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Those of us who have passed through the young children phase can tell you horror stories of movies we've sat through for the sake of a couple of hours of peace.

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This really can't be emphasized enough. The vast majority of the moviegoing public has paid no attention to any of the shenanigans about this movie and will simply see that there is a live action Snow White, it will probably occupy their kids, and it can't possibly be worse than Cocomelon.

Now, if it's genuinely abysmal, word-of-mouth will sink it in a week or two. But with no real competition, it does have a chance to do pretty well in the long-term.

Ooof.

Now the real challenge begins. Will families even care? Will the audience score be higher?

Or does either even matter and, like jenn96 said, are families just looking for something to take the kids to?

I did just see weekend projections drop from $50M to $45M. Not great, but still not bomb territory either.

Oh wow, not everyone had the same reaction as former social media editor turned film critic Katcy?

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The Original Houston 1836 said:

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Those of us who have passed through the young children phase can tell you horror stories of movies we've sat through for the sake of a couple of hours of peace.

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This really can't be emphasized enough. The vast majority of the moviegoing public has paid no attention to any of the shenanigans about this movie and will simply see that there is a live action Snow White, it will probably occupy their kids, and it can't possibly be worse than Cocomelon.

Now, if it's genuinely abysmal, word-of-mouth will sink it in a week or two. But with no real competition, it does have a chance to do pretty well in the long-term.

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Dogman and Minions are some of the worst that come to mind that I had to sit through.

Families want more films like Inside Out 2 and The Wild Robot. Original content that is fresh and fun. Not Live Action Snow White with a hairy back and eyes 10 inches apart.