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Why doesn't Disney just cancel the new Snow White movie?

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YNWA_AG
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This 2023 video is now crazy. They completely cut the prince out of the movie

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The Original Houston 1836
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YNWA_AG said:



This 2023 video is now crazy. They completely cut the prince out of the movie


Hollywood doesn't get much more scandalous than a 32-year old actor KISSING a 21-year-old actress.
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I was curious and checked on any upcomiing Zegler movies and I'm not seeing any listed.

Sign she's not worth touching right now given how bad she's been publically?
Definitely Not A Cop
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That is interesting. Your comment led me to IMDB where I saw this movie is currently rated 2.3 out of 10. Are IMDB ratings based on users or critics?
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

That is interesting. Your comment led me to IMDB where I saw this movie is currently rated 2.3 out of 10. Are IMDB ratings based on users or critics?


lol. That is one of the worst scores I've ever seen on IMDB.
El Gallo Blanco
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"Omg you crazy f16-ers, Disney is NOT woke! Their problems have NOTHING to do with politics or wokeness. Can we please keep politics out of entertainment (forums)?!"

Did I do it right?
TCTTS
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No one in the history of this board has ever seriously argued that Disney isn't woke. What I've mocked, personally, is the disproportionate amount of rage from grown ass men toward cartoons that feature, at worst, say, a single, same-sex kiss. But if it makes you feel better, you do you with your straw man point.
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Had he said "Hollywood" instead of "Disney", what would your response be?
El Gallo Blanco
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TCTTS said:

No one in the history of this board has ever seriously argued that Disney isn't woke. What I've mocked, personally, is the disproportionate amount of rage from grown ass men toward cartoons that feature, at worst, say, a single, same-sex kiss. But if it makes you feel better, you do you with your straw man point.


It's funny, I seriously know two gay buddies IRL who hate the sh** more than I do. The targeting kids with lgbtq stuff. If I was gay I'd be pissed too. Involving/targeting children just gives people a more negative view of the lgbt community over time.

But yeah, a person from Hollywood/LA might be surprised to learn that A LOT of gays and lesbians are actually super duper against this stuff…they tend to be the more normal/conservative low key average Joe/Joan types of gays. All they have to do is just not put it in kids stuff. Doesn't seem like a backbreaking ask.
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maroon barchetta said:

Had he said "Hollywood" instead of "Disney", what would your response be?


Something like "Sure, Hollywood leans slightly, maybe moderately left, but you f16'ers are just so extreme right wing (for basically just wanting your children to have a similar country, culture and upbringing to what we were all fortunate enough to experience) that Hollywood and MSNBC just SEEM solidly left leaning".

I kid TCTTS, but you know there's a little accuracy there.
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Not as mainstream as the Rachel Zegler publicity, but Gal Gadot is catching a lot of bullets for her acting in this movie.




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BREAKING NEWS: A List actress just OK at acting. 99.99% of planet shrugs shoulders and goes on about their day.
AustinAg2K
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I don't watch a Gal Gadot movie for the acting.
TCTTS
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El Gallo Blanco said:

maroon barchetta said:

Had he said "Hollywood" instead of "Disney", what would your response be?


Something like "Sure, Hollywood leans slightly, maybe moderately left, but you f16'ers are just so extreme right wing (for basically just wanting your children to have a similar country, culture and upbringing to what we were all fortunate enough to experience) that Hollywood and MSNBC just SEEM solidly left leaning".

I kid TCTTS, but you know there's a little accuracy there.

If Disney was out there trying to brainwash your kids into transitioning, or getting gender-affirming surgery or whatever, I would be right there with you. Because that's something that can have actual, negative, irreversible effects on them.

But an eight-year-old seeing two cartoons of the same sex kiss for two seconds, or seeing a mixed race dwarf or whatever, is simply NOT worth the outrage some of you spend on this crap. To that end, I just find it so incredibly weird how much space this stuff takes up in your heads.

Especially seeing as not a single bit of it will turn your kids gay or have any negative impact on them whatsoever.

You're the ones turning it into a big deal by endlessly *****ing on the internet or freaking out about having to explain some of this stuff to your kids. When, in reality, the explaining simply doesn't require the amount of drama (and apparent trauma) you're giving it.

If anything, being exposed to some of this stuff, your kids are going to grow up with more empathy for others and not thinking that seeing gay people depicted on screen or whatever is nearly as taboo or as big of a deal as their parents do.

That, and if you have a problem with two, same sex cartoons kissing in front of your kids, you should have the same problem with two, heterosexual cartoons kissing on screen. Anything else is either hypocritical or the mindset of the religious right trying to bend the world to their morals and their liking.

Now, has Disney taken some of this stuff too far at times, especially with the lazy "girl power" stuff?

Absolutely.

But more so in ways that I have problems with creatively and thematically - which I've expressed here numerous times - not in any tangible ways that are going to negatively affect our youth. Yes, it sucks that our kids aren't getting their versions of the kinds of movies we grew up with. I totally sympathize with that. I'm just saying, it has FAR less to do with "woke" than it does with the state of the movie business today, in terms of certain financial realities, the Big Tech takeover, streaming, studios being far less willing to gamble on original ideas, etc.
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Iowaggie said:

Not as mainstream as the Rachel Zegler publicity, but Gal Gadot is catching a lot of bullets for her acting in this movie.







A lot of that negativity is also politically charged/rooted. People calling her Zionist/warmonger/baby killer I guess bc she's Israeli and made some pro-Israel comments of support.

Unfortunately, it's tough to sift thru the bull**** "reviews" bc you have people of both political persuasions who "want" a particular respective outcome for this movie and are allowing their political bent to affect those reviews.
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HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:

Iowaggie said:

Not as mainstream as the Rachel Zegler publicity, but Gal Gadot is catching a lot of bullets for her acting in this movie.







A lot of that negativity is also politically charged/rooted. People calling her Zionist/warmonger/baby killer I guess bc she's Israeli and made some pro-Israel comments of support.

Unfortunately, it's tough to sift thru the bull**** "reviews" bc you have people of both political persuasions who "want" a particular respective outcome for this movie and are allowing their political bent to affect those reviews.


Yeah... Her "controversial" remarks were essentially just condemning hamas. How dare she be Jewish and condemn murderous child killers.
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People always call every political statement in the entertainment industry "brave"...so brave that you're applauded by everyone in Hollywood. Takes actual balls to take a stance deeply unpopular with those on the left, because you're persona non grata to many of them from then on. Her performance in this probably is weak, I've never found her performances especially riveting, but plenty of not great actresses get by with little to no criticism because they toe the industry line.
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Quote:

Sure, Hollywood leans slightly, maybe moderately left
BQRyno
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TCTTS said:


If anything, being exposed to some of this stuff, your kids are going to grow up with more empathy for others and not thinking that seeing gay people depicted on screen or whatever is nearly as taboo or as big of a deal as their parents do.

That, and if you have a problem with two, same sex cartoons kissing in front of your kids, you should have the same problem with two, heterosexual cartoons kissing on screen. Anything else is either hypocritical or the mindset of the religious right trying to bend the world to their morals and their liking.



All values are not equal. All morals are not equal. I'm the religious right trying to bend the world to my morals where men and women getting married and having kids is the ideal. I don't want to have to explain to my 3, 4, and 7 year old kids why two dudes are kissing in a kid movie. To equate that to a man and women kissing is just plain absurd. We shouldn't teach kids no values, and we shouldn't teach kids that all values are equal. Kids should be taught good values. That was obvious not that long ago.

Also, it's so ridiculously rich that producers of content for kids go out of their way to inject gay crap into kid content in order to normalize it as you describe, then when it's noticed, say how dare you make a big deal of it. It is being done intentionally, and then the reaction is called a culture war. Gaslighting defined.
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Iowaggie said:

Not as mainstream as the Rachel Zegler publicity, but Gal Gadot is catching a lot of bullets for her acting in this movie.







Has anyone commented on this X persons horrific grammar? My dog could write more intelligibly.
TCTTS
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Good Lord.

Then the answer is simple… don't go see Disney movies.

No one's forcing you to buy tickets.

Either way, you could not have underlined my point any better with this archaic nonsense.
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TCTTS said:

Good Lord.

Then the answer is simple… don't go see Disney movies.

No one's forcing you to buy tickets.

Either way, you could not have underlined my point any better with this archaic nonsense.


Yup, my archaic normal values. Values that were common (checks watch) 10-15 years ago.

And yeah, I actually pay attention to what my kids consume, and I don't let them watch garbage trying to normalize backwards values.

Archaic nonsense. You're a real tolerant one.
TCTTS
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Calling me "intolerant" for not accepting your intolerant views is a new one, I'll give you that.

Otherwise, your moral definitions are relative/subjective, not objective. It is not a "normal value" or an indisputable fact that "gay" equals "bad"/"backwards." That is a BELIEF you ascribe to, one you're literally demanding that the entertainment you and your kids consume bend to.

Except, that's not how the world works.

And thankfully, it's a world that's slowly but surely moving on from your mindset.

Again, though, you can always try speaking with your wallet, or making your own entertainment in the shape of your own morals. No one is stopping you from doing either.
BQRyno
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One of us is backing the cause of putting gay romance into cartoons for kids and one of us says that's bad. I'm comfortable letting God, reality, and history judge between us.
TCTTS
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Ha, okay.
El Gallo Blanco
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TCTTS said:

Good Lord.

Then the answer is simple… don't go see Disney movies.

No one's forcing you to buy tickets.

Either way, you could not have underlined my point any better with this archaic nonsense.


We're just commenting on a very annoying and abrasive trend and you're in a defensive fit over it. It's not ruining our world….some of us didn't care about this crap until we had kids. Why can't we just keep things basic and innocent for kids until they're at least in Jr. High?
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TCTTS said:

Ha, okay.


Seriously? You said "okay" at first, then what? Decided it wasn't snarky enough and had to add "ha" to it? You're committed to your brand, I'll give you that.
fig96
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Another thread totally derailed by stupid political comments…never saw that coming.
BQRyno
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fig96 said:

Another thread totally derailed by stupid political comments…never saw that coming.


1. Great post, lots of value

2. There's a common denominator, and I think you know who it is
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BQRyno said:

One of us is backing the cause of putting gay romance into cartoons for kids and one of us says that's bad. I'm comfortable letting God, reality, and history judge between us.


It's the same crowd that called Desantis a "book banning nazi" for having "Gender Queer", a literal lgbtq cartoon porn book graphically depicting oral sex and sodomy, removed from children's school libraries. Even the most rational, normal, every day democrats I know were wailing about that. It's crazy. Every single dem senator just voted in favor of men crushing women in sports competition and then showering and changing with them afterwards. But remember, we are the backwards freaks lol.
El Gallo Blanco
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fig96 said:

Another thread totally derailed by stupid political comments…never saw that coming.


To be fair, it's kind of a political thread. This thread could be on both Ent board and F16 and fit just perfectly.
fig96
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BQRyno said:

fig96 said:

Another thread totally derailed by stupid political comments…never saw that coming.


1. Great post, lots of value

2. There's a common denominator, and I think you know who it is
No less value than you *****ing at someone else for being 'intolerant'.

And you appear to be the one instigating, though to be fair you're a newer name compared to the usuals.
TCTTS
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El Gallo Blanco said:

TCTTS said:

Good Lord.

Then the answer is simple… don't go see Disney movies.

No one's forcing you to buy tickets.

Either way, you could not have underlined my point any better with this archaic nonsense.


We're just commenting on a very annoying and abrasive trend and you're in a defensive fit over it. It's not ruining our world….some of us didn't care about this crap until we had kids. Why can't we just keep things basic and innocent for kids until they're at least in Jr. High?

And I'm simply disagreeing that it's "abrasive" or that the amount justifies the endless, disproportionate *****ing and moaning.

Look, I'm all for keeping things basic and innocent. I'm not actively advocating for the inclusion of this stuff. I'm simply saying that the reaction to what's already there is over the top and hypocritical.

That, and as evident by BQRyno's response, said reaction often reveals a truer agenda, which is snuffing out anything "gay" not because of "the children," but because it's evil or bad or "backwards" or lies in direct contrast to their personal, moral beliefs, something I fundamentally disagree with and will call out when I see it.
BQRyno
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fig96 said:

BQRyno said:

fig96 said:

Another thread totally derailed by stupid political comments…never saw that coming.


1. Great post, lots of value

2. There's a common denominator, and I think you know who it is
No less value than you *****ing at someone else for being 'intolerant'.

And you appear to be the one instigating, though to be fair you're a newer name compared to the usuals.


I didn't attack anyone. He accused my views of being archaic nonsense, and I pointed out that that's pretty intolerant comment from someone on the "tolerant" side. Also, I was responding to a specific points in a discussion already underway, so I don't see how that's me instigating.
 
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