I can't believe in the time Jon Stewart left, each party has become so protective of two candidates that would have been laughed off the stage 40 years ago.
K.Capybara said:
This is the issue. Look at how easy it is for the puppet masters to get people to argue about individuals, foregoing any real interest in improving material conditions for those in the lower classes, improving our rapidly declining public education, ensuring every person has clean water to drink, clean clothes to wear, and so on.
But why ever expect this stuff to improve? How many teachers do you know who have dipped out of the profession in the past five years or so? Rightly complaining about unruly kids, low pay, and so on. Things that won't get better, because of both ops by intelligence (introducing crack into poor black communities for instance) and yes, some amount of personal failings by these kids' parents. Not to mention how the entertainment and social media sphere fundamentally alters people's desires and actions to an extent we've never seen.
Partisan politics are a dead end. Just a spectacle. Things for middle class people to complain about. To maintain and maybe even improve their place. Which is understandable, but still, it's all so fake and gay.
johncAG said:
I don't think its the far left that's mad at Stewart today for going after Biden. Progressives have been done with Biden for years. It's the #Resistence liberals who post Trump bad memes. Very "more female drone pilots" crowd.
I can't believe in the time Jon Stewart left, each party has become so protective of two candidates that would have been laughed off the stage 40 years ago.
BenTheGoodAg said:
I think in general, we lump too many people into groups way too often. It's ok to have an original thought that doesn't align with a political party.
ElephantRider said:
SNL goes after Biden quite a bit.
It's actually worse than that if these two remain the only choices for 2024...it will mean this country will have a TWELVE YEAR period where our only choices were Hillary, Trump, or Biden. Greatest country on the planet and those are our choices for twelve f***ing years...unbelievable.wangus12 said:The fact we we've gone 8 years between the 2 of them and still decided that we'll just roll out the same options again tells you a lot about how dumb this country is, or rather how dumb or political parties areKnow Your Enemy said:Capstone said:
It seems from the comments in the X post that there are many liberals that are not pleased he poked any fun at Biden.
And that's the #1 problem with Democrats. They have a complete inability to realize that Biden needs to be put out to pasture and replace him on the ballot with someone who isn't going senile. They feel like votes are owed to Biden simply because he's not Trump. Both of those guys are horrible candidates and should not be the nominee for their party. Meanwhile I have no viable candidate to vote for.
Those would be fun, but I would like to see Johnny Carson riffing on Trump and Biden. He poked fun at anyone who needed it.Gigem314 said:They probably do, because that's the example that's been set for them over the past 3 years. None of the traditional comedy shows touch Biden despite endless amounts of material. It's...awkward...the elephant in the room. You would think Trump has been President all this time when you tune into one of the late night comedy shows. Strangest thing I've ever seen in entertainment. It's like they just pretend Biden and Harris don't exist - when there are just as many clips of them saying awkward things as there were back when Jon Stewart would react to under GWB.barbacoa taco said:
and listening to people seethe about him poking fun at Biden last night... have these clowns ever watched his show before? do they think the current president is off limits or something?
I feel fortunate to have grown up in a time when comedy was truly funny and poked at everyone. Carvey as Bush 41, Carvey as Perot, Hartman/Hammond as Clinton, Hammond as Gore (he also did a fantastic Trump). Weekend Update with Norm, Nealon, and Spade. Farley as Gingrich. It wasn't mean spirited, it was meant to be silly and get everyone laughing at ourselves. That's a lost art. Now it's more being done to try and convince others of a particular point of view.
Here's to hoping others can break through the corporate noise.
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So, you defend Trump, which means you are clearly a right-wing, Nazi sympathizer.
Yeah it was obvious where he stood politically, and that of course colored the content of his show - but it certainly appealed to his core audience.jokershady said:
Always loved Jon Stewart. I don't agree with his politics but he's always been funny and also comes across as a guy you could genuinely agree to disagree with and still shake hands when done having a conversation.
Where I did this?AustinAg2K said:So, you defend Trump, which means you are clearly a right-wing, Nazi sympathizer... Yet you say you are not a Trump guy, which makes you left-wing, Commie nut job. You sound like you might be the most deranged person on the planet.El Gallo Blanco said:So many of them have been conditioned to view Trump as the ultimate evil beast. Half Hitler, half Satan. If you criticize Joe Biden, it must mean you are a Trump worshiper, and thus, equally as evil.Capstone said:
It seems from the comments in the X post that there are many liberals that are not pleased he poked any fun at Biden.
In reality, Trump is who he has always been. Rich, brash, flashy, crude, in your face. That's why I laugh at the rappers who used to worship him, and then despised him as soon as the media etc began to trash him. But he has won a ton of them back.
Want to make it clear that I am not a Trump guy...I just think he's mischaracterized as a monster.
The Porkchop Express said:
The thread is about Jon Stewart returning to the Daily Show. Trump vs. Biden and Left v. Right has its entire playground 3 doors down.
But the fact that people are reacting so harshly to Stewart not even digging in that hard on Biden shows that there's been a considerable absence of presidential comedy these past 3 years despite endless material. It's been extremely tame - so when someone goes there it really sticks out.barbacoa taco said:
Making fun of presidents has been a thing since political comedy has hit the airwaves. SNL has done it for decades, and the Daily Show has done it relentlessly since it first aired in the 90s. Not sure why ANYONE would think this time should be any different.
Stewart is going to be on the air for all of 2024 and he's going to continue going hard at Biden and Trump. If anyone can't handle that then don't watch it.
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I would like to see Johnny Carson riffing on Trump and Biden. He poked fun at anyone who needed it.
Above all else, I’m grateful Jon Stewart is (gently) reminding audiences that comedy isn’t supposed to just be DNC talking points https://t.co/yYali8P5ok
— gianmarco (@GianmarcoSoresi) February 14, 2024
I tend to go with "twitter opinions arent real/twitter people arent real" take , and mostly just use it for sports info and for the occassional bit of humor that some comedians still put out there on it.TCTTS said:
Thankfully, I'm seeing fewer and fewer of the Joanna-type tweets and more and more of the Gianmarco variety. There was a loud, petulant minority (that also included bitter dumb dumbs like Keith Olbermann), but now the adults are responding with truth and sanity...Above all else, I’m grateful Jon Stewart is (gently) reminding audiences that comedy isn’t supposed to just be DNC talking points https://t.co/yYali8P5ok
— gianmarco (@GianmarcoSoresi) February 14, 2024
PatAg said:I tend to go with "twitter opinions arent real/twitter people arent real" takeTCTTS said:
Thankfully, I'm seeing fewer and fewer of the Joanna-type tweets and more and more of the Gianmarco variety. There was a loud, petulant minority (that also included bitter dumb dumbs like Keith Olbermann), but now the adults are responding with truth and sanity...Above all else, I’m grateful Jon Stewart is (gently) reminding audiences that comedy isn’t supposed to just be DNC talking points https://t.co/yYali8P5ok
— gianmarco (@GianmarcoSoresi) February 14, 2024
Same reason why I tend to ignore reaction "news" articles. It's usually like 5 tweets from random people somehow made into a headline that people take at face valuePatAg said:I tend to go with "twitter opinions arent real/twitter people arent real" take , and mostly just use it for sports info and for the occassional bit of humor that some comedians still put out there on it.TCTTS said:
Thankfully, I'm seeing fewer and fewer of the Joanna-type tweets and more and more of the Gianmarco variety. There was a loud, petulant minority (that also included bitter dumb dumbs like Keith Olbermann), but now the adults are responding with truth and sanity...Above all else, I’m grateful Jon Stewart is (gently) reminding audiences that comedy isn’t supposed to just be DNC talking points https://t.co/yYali8P5ok
— gianmarco (@GianmarcoSoresi) February 14, 2024
But her twitter bio is so funny to me, and not intentionally.
It says "one of Cameron Crowe's Uncool", which we all know the reference right.
Great movie, was a great scene in the movie too..but I think having that as your twitter bio would disqualify you from being an actual journalist.
Its just so ****ing lame, not 'uncool'. Just dull and unimaginative, like something you would put on MySpace when you were a kid
Spot on.MW03 said:
At some point in Trump's term, a huge parcel of the media/entertainment at large decided they had a moral obligation to save America from itself. That ego told them they were important enough that they had to do it. It was a whole "great power comes great responsibility" Spider-Man thing.
The funny thing is that the court jesters among us forget their place. The comedians, the actors, the athletes, they all conflated entertainment with importance, and what's worse, intelligence.
That's what sunk the Daily Show and Trevor Noah. They took themselves way too seriously compared to being funny. The message became more important than the joke.
I'm not commenting on the message, by the way. In many ways, I thought the message was important. However, it got in the way of what it was supposed to be. Funny gave way to preachy, and there's plenty of places to go for sermons besides Comedy Central.
Jon Stewart understands that if you have a point to make, wrap it in a slice of American cheese like a pill you have to feed the dog. He's far better at this than maybe anyone in my lifetime.
bluefire579 said:Same reason why I tend to ignore reaction "news" articles. It's usually like 5 tweets from random people somehow made into a headline that people take at face valuePatAg said:I tend to go with "twitter opinions arent real/twitter people arent real" take , and mostly just use it for sports info and for the occassional bit of humor that some comedians still put out there on it.TCTTS said:
Thankfully, I'm seeing fewer and fewer of the Joanna-type tweets and more and more of the Gianmarco variety. There was a loud, petulant minority (that also included bitter dumb dumbs like Keith Olbermann), but now the adults are responding with truth and sanity...Above all else, I’m grateful Jon Stewart is (gently) reminding audiences that comedy isn’t supposed to just be DNC talking points https://t.co/yYali8P5ok
— gianmarco (@GianmarcoSoresi) February 14, 2024
But her twitter bio is so funny to me, and not intentionally.
It says "one of Cameron Crowe's Uncool", which we all know the reference right.
Great movie, was a great scene in the movie too..but I think having that as your twitter bio would disqualify you from being an actual journalist.
Its just so ****ing lame, not 'uncool'. Just dull and unimaginative, like something you would put on MySpace when you were a kid
The Porkchop Express said:
Please staff wipe this ****ty mess up and get back to jon Stewart
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