javajaws said:

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jokershady said:

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Hate to say it...but it is looking like the fatigue of the MCU has kicked in

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You can't discount the effect of the economy on these numbers either. Its been getting worse and I think these numbers somewhat reflect that as well as the fatigue factor. Inflation is real and many people who could afford to take the family out to a movie a year or two ago just can't do that anymore.

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8PM showing tonight, at the regular old AMC, in dolby, is $20.99 plus convenience fees. Cheapest option is digital, at $15.49.

I can wait.

The MCU has sputtered out, but it's not like theaters are very busy otherwise.

Guardians 1 was awesome. Part 2 was pretty bad at times and this one was bottom of the 3 for me, just barely edged out by 2.

I did like the Rocket backstory, but it was clear his character carried the scenes with the other guardians because the movie was not the same until he got fixed up. A ton of the jokes fell flat, but I still laugh at Draxx most of the time, especially when he ****s on Mantis. Adam Warlock was a complete waste of screentime. He was in the movie for what, all of 5 minutes?

The trailer for The Marvel's definitely looked like one I'll be skipping completely and just reading a plot summary.

This is just some rando nobody but is the sort of thing that reminds me why I don't talk about movies on social media.

This was in a thread where several other people boldly commented "I didn't even know this movie was out!" like true originals.

My understanding was that his helmet was destroyed in endgame and never replaced.

Enjoyed the fact that the plot didn't involve saving the universe. Instead, it was just about saving a friend.

By the way, maybe I missed this, but did all the cute animal people on counter earth die?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the whole planet was wiped clean when the ship took off.

TexasAggie_02 said:

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Also, Stallone's group has a sorcerer that can open portals, yet they just hand off space suits and say "good luck, if you get caught, we can't come help you" could've literally Portaled them inside the compound.

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Speaking of portal guy, that was the same portal animation/style as Dr. Strange and the other wizards right?

Yeah i think so

jeffk said:

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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Also, Stallone's group has a sorcerer that can open portals, yet they just hand off space suits and say "good luck, if you get caught, we can't come help you" could've literally Portaled them inside the compound.

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Speaking of portal guy, that was the same portal animation/style as Dr. Strange and the other wizards right?

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yes, and he was introduced in GOTG2

maroon barchetta said:

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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Also, Stallone's group has a sorcerer that can open portals, yet they just hand off space suits and say "good luck, if you get caught, we can't come help you" could've literally Portaled them inside the compound.

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You aren't getting portals included for only 100,000 credits.

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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Also, Stallone's group has a sorcerer that can open portals, yet they just hand off space suits and say "good luck, if you get caught, we can't come help you" could've literally Portaled them inside the compound.

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Remind me why Stallone's group was invested at all in saving Rocket. I thought there was going to be some secondary plot going on of Gamora trying to steal proprietary data from the station. But I guess the Ravagers are that dedicated to helping out someone (Rocket) who is kind of associated with them?

My wife and I got a chance to see it on Saturday and both enjoyed it. I think it's the weakest of the 3 Guardians films but also has the best villain. The High Evolutionary > Ego > Ronan. I think they used comedy and emotion to mask a pretty weak plot. This was basically a heist movie, like Endgame, but not nearly as well executed. I can appreciate the overall arc of the films as a whole.

I kind of hope that's it for them, just close the book. I know they said to stay tuned and Star Lord will return but I don't think they need to saddle up again. It wasn't the best ending for the franchise, but it's acceptable.

In addition to the darker subject matter the thing that drove me crazy once again is how dark the film was. I don't understand why they can't make these things brighter. It's legitimately hard to see what's going on a lot of the time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/13lbnp0/vfx_artist_from_gotg_vol_3_confirms_high/


Nice catch, they didn't let the High Evolutionary die

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The Dog Lord said:

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Forgot to mention we also loved the High Evolutionary. That guy was amazing.

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In my 50+ years of movie watching, I've never wanted a bad guy in a movie to die more than I wanted the High Evolutionary to die. What a totally despicable character - I completely hated him! So well acted.

Saw the movie last night - really enjoyed it! Weakest soundtrack of the three. Rocket's backstory was quite emotional - movie theater was a little dusty at times. Most of the characters evolved nicely. The "breakup" at the end felt forced. Would watch again.

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Worst soundtrack of the 3, that I completely agree on.

Mentioned to the wife that the only reason I'll hesitate to rewatch this is the Evolutionary guy. Not only is he a massive creep but he had so much dialog that I don't want to sit through again. For all the lack of Warlock development, this guy got a ton.

Saxsoon said:

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https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/13lbnp0/vfx_artist_from_gotg_vol_3_confirms_high/


Nice catch, they didn't let the High Evolutionary die

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i wouldn't call that a catch, if the VFX artist leaked it. Would have been cooler for people to find organically once the blu-ray came out, and ppl started pouring over it frame by frame.

Interesting development, nonetheless.

There is a huge push on reddit for Marvel to retcon the High Evolutionary as a Kang variant, and just use that actor going forward. He definitely pulled off the level of evil needed for the job.

Only problem with that is that the main MCU is part of the "sacred timeline" and the High Evolutionary has been active in this timeline now for over 300 years. He Who Remains would not have allowed this timeline to exist if he was a Kang Variant.

I tend to not only not geek out over comic book stuff, but it actually tends to annoy me.

BUT…

After reading more online about the High Evolutionary, it seems like the movie really underplayed how dangerous and powerful a foe he is supposed to be.

He's a Thanos level villain in the comics. Seemingly.

I don't know if I'd go that far. He's kind of a weird sometimes-ally usually-villain sort of character. He's involved in some Wanda/Pietro stories and sometimes part of Spider-Woman's origin. There's a High Evolutionary vs Apocalypse miniseries I think. He's in an episode of the X-Men cartoon (the only one with Wanda) - maybe more of an X-Men villain than Avengers.

I guess I think of it like… there are lots of crazy strong threats (especially cosmic). But the ones with big extended story arcs that keep coming back again and again, those are the truly special ones. I've been slowly reading through the comics (I'm up to 2011) and I don't know the last High Evolutionary comic I read, but since that last one I've read several Thanos, Doom, Ultron, Norman Osborn, Kang the Conqueror and Apocalypse storylines.

That said, he was a great pick for this movie and didn't really steal a top-shelf villain from anyone else's rogues gallery.

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I don't know if I'd go that far. He's kind of a weird sometimes-ally usually-villain sort of character. He's involved in some Wanda/Pietro stories and sometimes part of Spider-Woman's origin. There's a High Evolutionary vs Apocalypse miniseries I think. He's in an episode of the X-Men cartoon (the only one with Wanda) - maybe more of an X-Men villain than Avengers.

I guess I think of it like… there are lots of crazy strong threats (especially cosmic). But the ones with big extended story arcs that keep coming back again and again, those are the truly special ones. I've been slowly reading through the comics (I'm up to 2011) and I don't know the last High Evolutionary comic I read, but since that last one I've read several Thanos, Doom, Ultron, Norman Osborn, Kang the Conqueror and Apocalypse storylines.

That said, he was a great pick for this movie and didn't really steal a top-shelf villain from anyone else's rogues gallery.

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Did you come across an Avengers issue where Ultron sent some powerful robot to steal some AB Resin X and AB Resin Y to be able to make Adamantium for new bodies for Ultron and Jocasta?

Fightin TX Aggie said:

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He's a Thanos level villain in the comics. Seemingly.

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Probably depends which storylines you catch. I don't have the slightest idea what they've done with him in modern times, but the impression I had from older comics (70's - 90's) is that he was kind of a morally ambiguous scientist who never really thought through the negative potential outcomes of his experiments. I'm not sure he was ever a fixed villain for any particular franchise, but he'd show up from time to time, mostly engrossed in his own experiments. I think he was supposed to be something of an idealist who was frustrated with the realities of human failings.

They do make his scientific genius almost god-like in some stories, like creating Counter-Earth and quickly evolving it to a modern parallel world. At some point, I tracked down the issue numbers for the Counter-Earth storyline and found them on readcomicsonline. That incarnation of Adam Warlock was supposedly somewhat inspired by Jesus Christ Superstar.

James Gunn confirms it and I hope we see more

Is the High Evolutionary alive? https://t.co/AjQmRIiaLg

— Ángel González (@a_gonzas) May 19, 2023

For people who want the spoiler, what’s pointed out in the article is very much in the movie.

— James Gunn (@JamesGunn) May 19, 2023

Loved how well this actor played a crazy scientist with a god complex and super powers (or a super suit at least)….so glad he's probably coming back!

What a great movie... just a ton of fun start to finish!

I hadn't heard that this might be the last one. Sad if so. There is definitely plenty of money still to be made and this fan would gladly watch another!