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3:43p, 12/22/24
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Ashton is quite wrong about Corbell, although Jeremy can definitely be annoying. He has access to Knapp and Robert Bigelow, who know almost everybody of consequence on this topic (at least in the west)

Garry Nolan, one of the top scientists in the world by prestige and patents, is also an experiencer worth listening to. And Travis Walton has been very consistent and highly credible.

Am reading Bledsoe's UFOs of God and will report on it. He is credible, if you find his many videos similar to the drone videos credible, which I do.
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In reply to Jugstore Cowboy • 3:44p, 12/22/24
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Yes, same guy. He's made MH370 his entire identity, has somehow amassed a huge following, and sends his followers after anyone who dares question the narrative in any way. In the process he's become such a hateful, spiteful figure, and deranged beyond belief. It's been really weird and sad to watch.
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In reply to TCTTS • 7:43p, 12/22/24
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The whole gamer/brigader culture has always struck me as pretty pathetic. And UFO's are mainstream now, so that's just another subject for them to pursue likes and followers.

Imagine being some 70-year old reporter in Nevada with a shelf of local TV Emmy's, who occasionally talks about UFO's, and realizing you've been targeted by hentai collectors. And now I can hear Knapp's voice asking someone, "wtf is hentai and why are they mad at me?"
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10:48p, 12/22/24
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Greer going after Grusch here

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In reply to Ghost of Bisbee • 12:38a, 12/23/24
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Is he going after Grusch, or after Lue and maybe Coulthart?
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12:57a, 12/23/24
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For the umpteenth time...

- Greer currently sells a "CE5 Contact" app for $10 that "provides instructions and tools to assist you in making peaceful contact with extraterrestrial civilizations as well as locating others in your area who are interested in making contact."

- Greer once offered expeditions for a "tuition fee" of $2,500-$3,500, wherein participants could partake in "Ambassador to the Universe" training, in order to use their newfound "protocols" to summon UFOs. Turns out the "UFOs" were almost assuredly flares, which Greer may or may not have planned himself, just like the drones he's been accused of using to fake similar "encounters."

- Greer is a charlatan, huckster, and egomaniac, plain and simple. One who claims that he's in regular contact with aliens, and that he's even been on board a UFO, which he says he summoned upon a mountain while meditating.

The list goes on and on.

Seriously, no credible individual in this field takes Greer even remotely seriously.

Yes, like with all the best bull**** artists, there are kernels of truth in what he says. But anyone who throws the amount of **** against the wall that Greer does is bound to see some of it stick.

And yet, after literal decades of evidence to the contrary, for some inexplicable reason there's been a push as of late, from the fringes, to try and legitimize Greer again. Which of course is now seeping its way into this thread.

I thought we left this crap behind with Spyderman?
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10:05a, 12/23/24
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https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/the-hidden-truth-behind-a-1960s-nuclear-test-a-non-human-craft-fell-down-to-earth
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In reply to Jugstore Cowboy • 10:35a, 12/23/24
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I used to enjoy listening to Coast to Coast occasionally back when Art Bell was still the host. Is there a good source of nightly streams available somewhere since I'm not awake at those hours anymore? Or is it something you have to subscribe to for access? I see some clips on YT.
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In reply to Roll the Bones • 11:07a, 12/23/24
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There are some really good UFO related podcasts being produced these days that fill the C2C void. I like That UFO Podcast, hosted by Andy McGrillen. His Scot accent is very thick, but he's a great interviewer. He's also careful around the "woo" topics like remote viewing and experiencers. Probably one of the fairest hosts I've ever heard on these topics.
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12:28p, 12/23/24
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Originally posted in the Politics forum drone page:



Hat tip to redline248.

TLDR: NJ mayor assembles team of drone and counter drone experts with plan to identify drone operators, goes to FBI, and gets shut down. FBI does not want help identifying the drones. Very suspicious.
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9:16p, 12/23/24
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In reply to Roll the Bones • 10:12p, 12/23/24
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Roll the Bones said:
I used to enjoy listening to Coast to Coast occasionally back when Art Bell was still the host. Is there a good source of nightly streams available somewhere since I'm not awake at those hours anymore? Or is it something you have to subscribe to for access? I see some clips on YT.
I think they have a subscriber vault, I've never paid for it though. There is a lot of old Art Bell on youtube.

I listen a little to Rogan or other interesting podcasts/youtube channels sometimes to fall asleep, but I've never found anything as entertaining as Art Bell was. He knew how to make the show enjoyable and play a little bit w/ the guests. Most of the podcasters and youtubers are just too earnest, serious, slow, and dry. And George Noory's version of Coast to Coast is more like an infomercial than a real talk show.
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In reply to TKEAg04 • 11:49p, 12/23/24
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Can't wait to watch.

As bat**** as it sounds, this answer increasingly comes across as the most plausible, at least in terms of checking off the most boxes, re: the phenomenon (even though I think this Jordan dude can often be a nut)...

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1:56a, 12/24/24
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Maybe they've been inside the earth/or underwater since the Younger Dryas catastrophe. Or hell, maybe they fled to the moon instead. There are a lot of artificial looking structures up there.
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In reply to TCTTS • 8:34a, 12/24/24
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The most plausible answer remains as it has been seen by Apostolic (Catholic / Orthodox) mystics:
various creations, some faithful, some fallen, including the "planetary" of Anne Catherine Emmerich. And I would add the "warning angels" (orbs) of Chris Bledsoe.

This requires personal God though, so I can see how we can get to ancient underwater humanoids (anything to avoid that personal God)
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8:51a, 12/24/24
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Now, that said - did Sylvia Earle have a profound mystical experience in her dives with "entities?" I think she did, as with Edgar Mitchell. BUT in the context stated above - consciousness, dimensions, spiritual.
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9:13a, 12/26/24
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James Fox full segment on Joe Rogan dropped yesterday. Personally, I can barely tolerate Rogan. But I may try to grit my way through this one. Someone pointed out a specific segment on Reddit and I watched it and it is exactly why I do not think there will ever be official preemptive disclosure from our government as we know it. I said as much even on page 1 of Spyderman's long thread he had long ago on F16. Did he catch another perma I'm guessing?

Summation is this:

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A General told James Fox why disclosure isn't happening - Imagine we say: My fellow Americans, there are unknown crafts whizzing around with impunity with tech that is light years ahead, no clue where from or what they want. If hostile we have no way to defend against them. Thanks and good night.
An institution has one over arching goal over anything else. The preservation of said org. I truly don't think anything terrifies our power holders more than admitting that they in fact, have no power in regards to something. They will not admit UAPs have complete and unfettered access to our skies against our will because it will invalidate their very basis for existing. In addition to the humiliation and unending political nightmare it would cause. It would be too....messy.

I have also seen some say here that we are ready as a people and species for the truth of NHI, if they do exist. I vehemently disagree. The days and weeks following any alien landing and saying "Hi!" would be catastrophic IMO. The financial world would implode over night, religious divides almost immediately, military confrontations across the globe.... I truly believe all of that. We go to war if a nation disrupts oil supply FFS. Alien and alien tech dumped onto the world's plate? Then the conspiracies. Who knew what and when and what kind of tech are nations secretly hiding that may have been alien in nature and so on.

I want disclosure as much as anyone here if there is something to disclose. But I think I am being pragmatic in my assessment. Thoughts?


Full segment:
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In reply to Eliminatus • 9:55a, 12/26/24
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Excellent post! Frustrating but true, Disclosure is not coming from our government. If such a thing ever occurs, it will have to come from the other side.
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10:37a, 12/26/24
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Family member of mine who lives right out near Enchanted Rock north of Fredericksburg took a video (poor quality, as you'd expect from a phone) of a lit drone hanging out near her place a few nights ago. She said it stayed there for about an hour and then disappeared and definitely was not a helicopter. Here's a screenshot of the blurry video.
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In reply to Eliminatus • 4:40p, 12/26/24
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Personally, I can barely tolerate Rogan.
I used to be the same way, but I think he's gotten better. He seems more sober and has gotten better at interviews, so he doesn't start mumbling about MMA in response to every comment he doesn't understand. I'd have to be interested in the guest to watch or listen, but he's better than a lot of people at asking the right questions (even dumb questions) to get the guests talking and fully airing out their perspectives.

I haven't watched the Fox episode yet to be able to fully reply to you, but I think - along those notes - that the Rejection of Uncertainty fuels most theories I've seen over the years about UFO's and various other conspiracy theories that sell books, like the JFK assassination. The average person would sooner give up or alter their religious faith than accept the proposition that the elite powers that be don't know either. After all...I am capable of knowing everything, so if I don't know, then the PTB must be keeping it from me. THE Government must know!

I don't entirely agree about religions crumbling or chaos immediately ensuing disclosure. For one thing, there likely never will be one single moment of total disclosure. And #2, religious fundamentalists are remarkably flexible when it comes to folding new information into their belief systems. An alien dropping down right in front of one of the anointed would simply be proof of something they've already said they believe.
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9:15p, 12/27/24
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Interesting interview by Charlie Kirk with Greer

Says there are definitely extraterrestrials of other worlds worried about the usage of thermonuclear weapons so they are monitoring, yet not hostile

A bit of a stretch

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In reply to Ghost of Bisbee • 7:55a, 12/28/24
I wonder where they got that idea.


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In reply to TCTTS • 8:25a, 12/28/24
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Humans inside the earth seems less plausible to me than space aliens. The video here doesn't pull up but where and how is it proposed they are living inside the earth? Are they suggesting an area like Kong's, or something less elaborate?
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In reply to Jugstore Cowboy • 2:59p, 12/28/24
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There is also a very strong compulsion in humans to prefer extraordinary explanations for extraordinary events over simple ones. The JFK assassination is a prime example. I don't want to derail the thread by rehashing the evidence and theories again to no avail. The point is that when transformative, world altering historical events occur, we need to believe that equally significant forces caused them.
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In reply to YouBet • 3:07p, 12/28/24
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YouBet said:
Humans inside the earth seems less plausible to me than space aliens. The video here doesn't pull up but where and how is it proposed they are living inside the earth? Are they suggesting an area like Kong's, or something less elaborate?

In structures in the oceans and in various mountain ranges (the latter of which we as humans already have, so wouldn't be that much of a stretch). Think less "inside the earth" a la Kong and more "in places we haven't fully explored," seeing as we know more about the moon than we do our world oceans, only 5% of which we've actually explored. Also, say, Antartica in terms of mountain ranges, etc.

And not necessarily humans (though, if so, they could be from the future or an ancient civilization that split off), but also potentially aliens or inter-dimensional beings that arrived thousands of years ago and covertly set up shop.

I'm not saying I fully believe any of it, I'm just saying it's an increasingly popular possibility.
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In reply to Roll the Bones • 6:40p, 12/28/24
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Roll the Bones said:
I used to enjoy listening to Coast to Coast occasionally back when Art Bell was still the host. Is there a good source of nightly streams available somewhere since I'm not awake at those hours anymore? Or is it something you have to subscribe to for access? I see some clips on YT.
I started listening to Art Bell in the early/mid 1990s. I'm still a Coast subscriber, but mainly I just pay so I can listen to (download) the 2 or 3 George Knapp episodes per month. Whitley Streiber still puts out episodes of Dreamland at his website Unkown Country. The first half of his shows are free for listening.
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4:25a, 12/31/24
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Now available to rent (it was only previous available to buy)...

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4:29a, 12/31/24
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Come February 1st, when absolutely nothing has happened, can we at last agree to never mention this clown again?

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In reply to TCTTS • 4:29a, 12/31/24
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Conversely, I will gladly eat crow should we somehow get disclosure by then.
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In reply to TCTTS • 4:32p, 12/31/24
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You'll have to subscribe to his website to see said disclosure
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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5:16p, 12/31/24
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DISCLOSURE

It is time.

convergence - religion, quantum physics, AI, UAP, unknown human abilities as revealed by Telepathy Tapes, a paradigm shift in understanding of physics, and of the nature of human consciousness


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5:17p, 12/31/24
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I will be here, to help navigate the ontological shock

DISCLOSURE NOW
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In reply to Redstone • 5:57p, 12/31/24
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Redstone said:
I will be here, to help navigate the ontological shock

DISCLOSURE NOW
I have read some of your posts from some time ago. How does the vatican fit in with this?

Do you believe in aliens? Do you think they are demons? Have your thoughts and ideas evolved over time?
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