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ABC left some details out. In addition to
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The Federal Aviation Administration issued a ban on drone operations in dozens of areas of New Jersey and New York until mid-January, unless operators are granted special permission from the government due to "special security reasons."
and an exclusion for drones flying above 400 feet, the "ban" also doesn't apply to drones supporting military operations, or commercial operations with a "valid statement of work." It's not much of a "ban", is it?
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Fantastic discussion that's way more scientific/historical than the title would have you believe. Jesse Michels has been on a roll lately…

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Is that not a bug flying by just above their heads?
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What's the green flash right after it appears?
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This excerpt isn't from The Program, but the staff member being interviewed here by Fox is featured *in* The Program. I guess this is some kind of follow-up interview…

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I've been listening to his appearance on Dana Carvey & David Spade's podcast (thru whatever series of clicks led me to this strange combination), discussing that idea among others:



He claims Wernher Von Braun's secretary quoted Von Braun as saying they would one day stage a fake UFO invasion/attack in order to get the public to accept a tyrannical global gov't or something.
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Trump is an apparent threat to the deep state. I really think these people will do whatever they can to keep him and his crew from destroying their power. They've tried: 1. To prosecute him, 2. To kill him (twice), 3. to set him up (Jan 6), and 4. Associate him with Russians.

None of those worked. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they tried something here.
Well…you sounded taller on radio.
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General Jack D. Ripper said:

Trump is an apparent threat to the deep state. I really think these people will do whatever they can to keep him and his crew from destroying their power. They've tried: 1. To prosecute him, 2. To kill him (twice), 3. to set him up (Jan 6), and 4. Associate him with Russians.

None of those worked. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they tried something here.


Drones showing up at the inauguration?
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Please don't listen to a word Greer has to say.
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For Catholics, probably our greatest mystic has a lot to say on this topic (and that they exist).
She used a German dialect word translated as "planetary"
https://www.amazon.com/Inner-Life-Worlds-Soul-Spirit/dp/1621383792
General Jack D. Ripper
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Why?
Well…you sounded taller on radio.
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Because it is indisputable he is a liar and fraud.
https://sqpn.com/2022/02/steven-greer-summoning-aliens-cseti-ce5/
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General Jack D. Ripper said:

Why?
Because it's like saying Beetlejuice 3 times in a row.
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Greer hasn't been the only one saying this is all leading to a huge fake flag, grab for power.
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JD Shellnut said:

Greer hasn't been the only one saying this is all leading to a huge fake flag, grab for power.


You mean like Roseanne Barr and Alex Jones?

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/what-is-project-blue-beam-drone-conspiracy/amp/
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Rocagnante said:

JD Shellnut said:

Greer hasn't been the only one saying this is all leading to a huge fake flag, grab for power.


You mean like Roseanne Barr and Alex Jones?

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/what-is-project-blue-beam-drone-conspiracy/amp/



Who should we believe, Eric Holder, Susan Rice, John Kirby, Lindsay Graham?
Well…you sounded taller on radio.
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Redstone said:

Because it is indisputable he is a liar and fraud.
https://sqpn.com/2022/02/steven-greer-summoning-aliens-cseti-ce5/


Nothing against Catholicism, but what is he saying that's less based in fact than what you believe? ..and I doubt he's making near the money the Vatican has raked in.
Well…you sounded taller on radio.
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Actually listen to the show.

Akin is a theologian, and also an investigator, which is what the show is. He and many others have Greer nailed to the wall.

Please keep this proven fraud off the thread.
General Jack D. Ripper
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I've heard Greer in the past. I don't know if he's right or wrong. But I don't know that he's a fraud either.
Well…you sounded taller on radio.
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Well, been indisputably proven for years he is a fraud and liar.

Which is why requests have been honored, generally, to keep his trash off this thread.
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Mysterious World has plenty relevant to this thread....

especially as Tim Taylor, or "Tyler D.," NASA legend and new Catholic, has close communication with the Vatican

- https://jimmyakin.com/2019/08/aliens-and-religion-jimmy-akins-mysterious-world.html
- https://sqpn.com/2023/10/aliens-and-christianity-with-tyler-mcnabb/
- https://sqpn.com/2024/07/whitley-streibers-communion-aliens-ufos-visitors-abduction/
- https://sqpn.com/2019/08/aliens-and-religion/
- https://sqpn.com/2018/10/mys010-where-are-all-the-aliens/
- https://sqpn.com/2023/10/its-always-alien-demons-ufos-extraterrestrials-demonology/
- https://sqpn.com/2020/01/alien-implants/
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Rocagnante said:

JD Shellnut said:

Greer hasn't been the only one saying this is all leading to a huge fake flag, grab for power.


You mean like Roseanne Barr and Alex Jones?

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/what-is-project-blue-beam-drone-conspiracy/amp/


I didn't even know Roseanne was still alive. But to answer your question, it was discussed on a very popular channel on YouTube called The Why Files. You have to remember that everything that has been said by "whistleblowers " like Elizondo and others has been clear to be released by the pentagon. You may have more faith in our government than me, but I could see them faking an invasion for a huge power grab. Not like there hasn't been any precedent like 9/11 or Covid. But feel free to keep making snide remarks by bring up ****ing Rosanne.
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Yeah, let's stick to serious studies like your occult pseudo-theology spam.
Redstone
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Wrong.

How about you actually listen. He's a serious academic.

Just like the people profiled in Encounters and American Cosmic that are working INSIDE THE VATICAN.
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General Jack D. Ripper said:

I've heard Greer in the past. I don't know if he's right or wrong. But I don't know that he's a fraud either.


Exactly this.
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Thought this interesting. Drone sightings nearly doubled in one week from annual over nuclear generating sites or affiliated. In absolute numbers it's not a lot I guess to most but still a data point that sticks out. Jan1 to Dec10 there were 15 reported events. Dec10-17 it went from that 15 to 26. This is over critical infrastructure. Maybe the most the critical. All of this was before the NOTAM-TFR that went out banning drone usage over these sites on DEC18.

Historical data:



Of note, that these reports were voluntary up till Jan 2024. Meaning the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) only gathered data from sites that basically wanted to report them and is no way truly indicative of actual historical unknown drone incursions into these airspaces. Wild to me, but ok.

You want weird things in the sky, go hang around some nuclear stuff. Moths to flame. Also just massive targets in general for bad actors. Human ones I mean. Without trying to get political, I think it is an objective truth at this point that our porous borders in the last few years could have welcomed in any number of said bad actors from any number of hostile nation-states. Even if their goal is just to harass and harry our military and society, it would likely be worth it.



https://www.twz.com/news-features/massive-uptick-in-official-drone-sightings-by-nuclear-power-plants
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Another thought. What if the uptick in reports includes copycats and/or multiple responsible parties? Assuming that one explanation fits all sightings may no longer be a valid assumption. Do any NGOs have the resources to operate drones around nuclear assets, including military ones? Could this be a form of enviro-terrorism, like hardcore Greenpeace wackos used to engage in?
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This dude has turned into a straight up psycho. Within the next three years I predict he's either going to be a full-on cult leader or in jail for murder…

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The replies to George are bizarre. That Ashton dude apparently has legit followers with blue checks, not just sock accounts, personally attacking anyone Ashton attacks.

I honestly have no idea who Ashton is (obviously have listened to George Knapp fill in on C2C for years) other than this thread, but is he the guy who's been pushing the Malaysian Airlines hoax videos?
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My recommendations for a quick start:
documentaries from @jamescfox, podcasts from @AlchemyAmerican, and Jimmy Akin @jimmyakin3000, Netflix series Investigation Alien (featuring @g_knapp)
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