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Consilience, with science, Apostolic Christianity (Logos and anti-Logos), and emerging understanding of consciousness and physics.

I think a lot can be reconciled. Background -

- https://texags.com/forums/15/topics/3382956
Elohim and elohims

- https://texags.com/forums/15/topics/3166505
Apostolic (generalization of Creator relating to creation)

- Short book recommend is Howard Storm, My Descent Into Death, then search his name in various engines with aliens

Many things can be true at once, and we grasp toward unseen and objective realities through our subjective experiences, looking for patterns (which exist, for example, in "inter-dimensional Bigfoot," such as green lights and certain noises and smells)

Recommend looking into Chris Bledsoe, Michael Heiser, Edgar Mitchell, Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich, St. Padre Pio, Fr. Seraphim Rose, Howard Storm, Travis Walton, the many experiencers that used the name of Christ.

In sum, we are one creation among many in a universe teeming with life, and the creator Logos came to us 2,000 years ago, and to others in different forms, including to us today, often in dreams. As we learn and explore, much can be reconciled. We are but one creation of embodied spirits, in our particular dimension, an image of the Logos, certainly not the only one, occupying a planet that draws interest due to the amazing conditions for life, our sin causing a low energy vibration and also attracting fallen powers of the air.
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Word salad
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maroon barchetta said:

Word salad
Read it and spend some time researching the topic. I used to be on the side of word salad. Not anymore.
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Please don't encourage or entertain him.
Coppell97
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redline248 said:

Please don't encourage or entertain him.
it's an open forum. No one has to agree with what anyone says. It's awesome hearing all ideas. I would recommend listening and considering all viewpoints, and then make your own judgments. Nothing should be shot down. As an example In life, often the best information comes from your critics. If someone is opposite your viewpoint or you feel is critical of you or your group. Those are the ones to reach out to, engage, actively listen, see what they have to say. It will help you in the long run. No need to silence any ideas here. I love the brainstorming and sharing here. It makes you think.
Redstone
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Be a Fortean and look for patterns, to understand reality through subjective experiences.

I understand why many are uncomfortable with the metaphysical aspects, which tend to get real spiritual real fast - especially by experiencers…..or converts to Christianity FROM those experiences, such as NASA legend Tim Taylor.

This worldview in particular is comparable with Hynek's "high strangeness," as working my way through Emmerich's "planetary spirits" visions has reinforced. Why. Because we ourselves are spirits with a temporary embodiment.

Redstone
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Perhaps thinking in such ways can help to reconcile seemingly contradictory sides, all of which might have significant evidence.

Take the moon.

All of this could be true:
- we went
- NASA lied, continues to lie and be ridiculous in many, many ways
- we haven't been back in half a century
- honest, decent, impressive men like Edgar Mitchell were profoundly changed by going
- "conspiracy theorists" have many excellent and detailed and well reasoned arguments
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IF there were structures, hostile entities, and we were "warned"

We should be thinking in such terms. Ontological shock is here, and greater shock will be arriving.
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Coppell97 said:

redline248 said:

Please don't encourage or entertain him.
it's an open forum. No one has to agree with what anyone says. It's awesome hearing all ideas. I would recommend listening and considering all viewpoints, and then make your own judgments. Nothing should be shot down. As an example In life, often the best information comes from your critics. If someone is opposite your viewpoint or you feel is critical of you or your group. Those are the ones to reach out to, engage, actively listen, see what they have to say. It will help you in the long run. No need to silence any ideas here. I love the brainstorming and sharing here. It makes you think.
Fully agree. We do not have to agree nor even engage. I don't believe in any of the mentioned topic but it's fun to take it in and ponder on it and then agree/disagree with it accordingly. Literally the biggest thing this whole subject requires, is an open mind. Make your choices and then be at peace with them.

On the flip side though, being preachy/pushy about things (not saying you necessarily are Redstone) is the other extreme that also gets annoying.

It's a balance.
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Have also definitely noticed a huge dip in news reporting on anything regarding the drones. NJ locals still seeing and reporting to authorities but MSM has cut the cable from what I can tell. Interesting.
Redstone
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Although my posts above are centered in the spiritual, the materialist only aspects lead quickly to the metaphysical …. given our very limited understanding at present:

- "drones" are still appearing every night, on video, with ZERO legit explanation from any authority
- we have videos, and also many firsthand, military testimonies of something breaking the current laws of physics
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Happy New Year to this crew!
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Redstone said:

Be a Fortean and look for patterns, to understand reality through subjective experiences.

I understand why many are uncomfortable with the metaphysical aspects, which tend to get real spiritual real fast - especially by experiencers…..or converts to Christianity FROM those experiences, such as NASA legend Tim Taylor.

This worldview in particular is comparable with Hynek's "high strangeness," as working my way through Emmerich's "planetary spirits" visions has reinforced. Why. Because we ourselves are spirits with a temporary embodiment.





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It is coming.

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Mr President Elect
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Woah, just started watching the latest Shawn Ryan episode and apparently the Cybertruck bomber was attempting to blow the whistle on the drones, or was at least reaching out saying he was concerned for his life and knows what the drones are.
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Was just coming here to post this. It is directly related to the thread and also tangential. It would also explain why the metallic orbs are showing up on video in warzones.

Rundown on relation to the thread: Drones on east coast are Chinese. The tech was exclusively American for years and the Chinese have managed to steal the tech and are doing a show of force. They can park heavy payloads where ever they want because of their "gravitic propulsion systems"


You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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Forwarded message
From: dabergmlb dabergmlb@protonmail.com
Date: On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 10:42 AM
Subject: Fw: Re: Initial contact
To:
Cc:

In case I do not make it to my decision point or on to the Mexico border I am sending this now. Please do not release this until 1JAN and keep my identity private until then.

First off I am not under duress or hostile influence or control. My first car was a 2006 Black Ford Mustang V6 for verification.

What we have been seeing with "drones" is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the east coast, but throughout history, the US. Only we and China have this capability. Our OPCEN location for this activity in the box is below.

China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they used the balloon for sigint and ist, which are also part of the integrated comms system. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time.

The so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned AC, they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the WH if they wanted. It's checkmate.

USG needs to give the history of this, how we are employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the east coast
I've been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI, and they are looking to move on me and are unlikely going to let me cross into Mexico, but won't because they know I am armed and I have a massive VBIED. I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me.

I have knowledge of this program and also war crimes that were covered up during airstrikes in Nimruz province Afghanistan in 2019 by the admin, DoD, DEA and CIA. I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings (65 were struck because of CIVCAS) that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. USFORA continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR, it was supposed to take 6 minutes and scramble all aircraft in CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes, but the administration made them disappear. I was part of that cover-up with USFORA and Agent of the DEA. So I don't know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with GEN Millers IO staff on this as well as the response to Bala Murghab. AOB-S Commander at the time can validate this.

You need to elevate this to the media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation.

For vetting my Linkedin is Matt Berg or Matthew Livelsberger, an active duty 18Z out of 1-10 my profile is public. I have an active TSSCI with UAP USAP access.

Sent from Proton Mail for Android
On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 14:22, dabergmlb dabergmlb@protonmail.com wrote: Sending with a vpn active on wifi only.

Do not message me. I will send out updates via both signal and email but trust me you're going to want to be involved
Ghost of Bisbee
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To believe or not to believe?

So Livelsberger was in his weaponized cybertruck and using it as leverage to discourage the DoD from acting against him?
Why would it have been detonated outside of Trump's hotel then? He knew he couldn't make it to Mexico? Doesn't make much sense to me

TCTTS
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A shorter excerpt, for those who don't yet have time to watch the entire thing. Pretty wild...

TCTTS
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That said, reactions like this are WAY premature...

TCTTS
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... seeing as Livelsberger offers ZERO proof/evidence of his drone claims, and could very well simply have had a psychotic break from reality...

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Ghost of Bisbee
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Bizarre.

I can see the angle of trying to undermine the incoming administration through a false flag.

I just don't get why the truck blew up outside the Trump hotel.
So the guy hates Trump because he took part in alleged strikes that also impacted civilians?
El Gallo Blanco
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Goodness...not saying Shawn Ryan is infallible, but this is a very bold proclamation. Holy sh**.

Was hoping 2025 would be relatively "chill".
TCTTS
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If, If, If this guy turns out to be telling the truth, one theory is that he was somehow framed with the truck, and that someone else blew it up remotely.
Mr President Elect
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Goodness...not saying Shawn Ryan is infallible, but this is a very bold proclamation. Holy sh**.

Was hoping 2025 would be relatively "chill".
During a break in the interview, Shawn looked through his show's emails and found one from that email address saying he needed to get a message out and it needed to be before 12/31, as he would be gone after that.
Ghost of Bisbee
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Assuming that would be DoD or homeland as the bad actor?
El Gallo Blanco
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I suck at Twitter, but I looked at Shawn Ryan's account and could not find the posts about him and his family going off grid or releasing anything "mind boggling" as was quoted...can someone help me out? Was it removed?
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If he was trying to draw attention to a 2019 incident that was covered up by the "admin" et al, the placement of the truck outside a Trump building makes a lot more sense.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

I suck at Twitter, but I looked at Shawn Ryan's account and could not find the posts about him and his family going off grid or releasing anything "mind boggling" as was quoted...can someone help me out? Was it removed?
He has a personal account and a show account. He posted that shortly before the episode released. Sounds like he wants to lay low in case there's any blowback from the episode.

TCTTS
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Presumably, yes.

That said, I don't buy it.
Mr President Elect
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MW03 said:

If he was trying to draw attention to a 2019 incident that was covered up by the "admin" et al, the placement of the truck outside a Trump building makes a lot more sense.
He wasn't trying to draw attention to 2019. He was mentioning it more b/c it was a possible reason they are after him.


From his email:
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So I don't know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with GEN Millers IO staff on this as well as the response to Bala Murghab. AOB-S Commander at the time can validate this.

You need to elevate this to the media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation.

...

I think it is more likely just to get the most eyeballs on the story, knowing the media would have a frenzy with it.
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WAR CRIMES: Shawn Ryan and Sam Showmate propose a theory suggesting that the Las Vegas bomber, Matt Livelsberger, may still be alive.

In their analysis, they highlight several oddity's:

- Matt Livelsberger, a highly skilled and competent Green Beret, wanted to draw attention to the 2019 war crimes. Despite his capabilities, his mental state appeared stable.

- Livelsberger might have been tipped off about surveillance or detected government tracking efforts, prompting him to change his phone and number.

- Instead of using his expertise to construct a deadly device, Matt loaded a Teslamarketed as bulletproof and virtually indestructiblewith fireworks rather than deadly explosives.

- The Tesla, which is capable of self-driving, was preloaded with fireworks and inert armaments designed to draw attention rather than cause harm.

- Livelsberger may have placed another body in the Tesla, and remotely directed it to the bombing location.

- The Army's Public Affairs Office revealed that the DNA from the body found in the Tesla did not match Matt's biological profile.

- Additionally, the Desert Eagle firearm found at the scene lacked the telltale signatures one would expect if Matt had used it to take his own life.

Ryan and Showmate speculate that Matt Livelsberger might have intentionally orchestrated this event to send a message to expose 2019 war crimes and then disappeared.

Wild stuff. Stay frosty.
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