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Apparently this is from New Mexico, not New Jersey, just FYI.
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Wheel within a wheel. This is very, very interesting
Reminds me of Balok's ship (Fesarius) in The Corbomite Maneuver.

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This one is very interesting too. Reminds me of one of the videos of the UAPs that shift from that shape to a round then to triangle.
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This seems to be the growing consensus…

I've been thinking about this one. I saw part of Joe Rogan's latest podcast with John McPhee. (One of the most legendary Delta Force operators to have ever existed for those who don't know) That dude is probably a straight sociopath but told of how in the Middle East there were certain places he didn't want to go in because he felt they were evil. Man, that caught my attention. Because I know EXACTLY what he is talking about.

It's at the 33:35 mark



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I wanted to talk about that. There's real ****ing evil in the world and in Iraq and Afghanistan you go into these ****ed up places where they, ya know, were raping, beheading people, ****ing tribal **** forever. Like there were buildings I didn't even want to ****ing go in there. And you'd go and you'd be like every ****ing hair on my body would be standing up and I mean at the doorway and be like, "I don't even want to clear this ****ing building." You know what and I don't know ****ing why but I know there's ****ing old evil in this world.
Rough transcript of it.

I spent about 20 minutes trying to find an old post I had typed up years ago about an experience I had in Iraq but I am positive now it got ate up in the great F16 purge. I was a grunt overseas and during a particular operation we were sweeping an entire area looking for IED factories. Now, it's not something I ever really talk about, or even admit to myself, but I guess most would probably consider me "sensitive" to some things if you believe in such things. Don't know why. Been that forever.

Anyways, I was point man (first in line) and approached a building like so many others. Nothing of note had been happening and we were tired as hell and been running around for about 36 hours already. As we got closer to the front door the procedure we just knock and talk first. So we do that and no on answered. So I force the door and step in. I froze. Huge no no. We don't freeze in doorways. But man, I had such a wave of something that it disoriented me completely. I truly cannot describe it. Only that not only did the building feel wrong, I felt wrong. Enough that I backed out and halted the rest of the squad. Not a big deal really and I played it off as the first slab (slab floor) felt off. Can't ***** out so steel myself and go back in. Nothing looks out of place. Just another empty Iraqi house. But just like McPhee said, every hair is standing up and I feel sick and gross and like there is no hope in the world. The best way I think I can describe it was a massive oppressive blanket of some sorts just smothering you. Just....heavy. Search the house and get to the back and I go through the last door. Turns out it's a ****ing torture and execution house.

We had no way of knowing that place existed. I have tried to convey to people in the past that our wars there were awful. Zero argument there. We did bad things to them, they did bad things to us. But damn me if the things they did to each other is truly unfathomable to civilized western culture. I held the knives in my own hands while looking at the bloodstains. No bodies thankfully.

I honestly don't know why I try to downplay or ignore this area so much. I FELT that house before I discovered that back area. If I were writing a book, I would say I could feel the despair that place generated. I am glad to say our battalion commander ordered the house destroyed and since I happened to be the demo guy as well on site, I am the one who got to pull smoke and blow it up myself. One of the extremely few days I actually felt good overseas.

McPhee also goes on to mention he felt the same way at Gettysburg. Definitely have heard that from others. This talk of psionics is never something I have ever taken seriously and even scoffed at in the past. I will also say though that with my experiences, the above only being a fraction, I have no idea why I am like that. I probably should be more open. Especially since I know the very real probability of energies/forces that we simply cannot reliably detect yet. Our instrumentation is ever expanding and evolving.


ETA: No one else felt anything like this at all. I subtly asked around the following days.
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TCTTS said:


This one is very interesting too. Reminds me of one of the videos of the UAPs that shift from that shape to a round then to triangle.
ETA: Reddit SEEMS to have solved this one? It's possibly a power line marker for helos. I rewatched the vid and still a couple things that don't quite add up to me. Size seems too big still, Orientation is 90 degrees off, and height is waaaay to high from camera perspective it appears and no telephone poles close to it. Also no significant elevation in area. Hmmmm......

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ESP is scientifically validated. Watch the trailer

https://thetelepathytapes.com/
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Wow, thanks for sharing. That's incredibly interesting, and also super creepy.

I really do think it all comes back to consciousness being the baseline of/fundamental to all reality. If so, to that end, we're all connected on a quantum level, part of the same "consciousness field," hence ESP, intuition, being able to "sense" certain things, etc. It really would explain so much.
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Been meaning to listen to this. I keep hearing rave reviews.
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A week from Monday...

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Just because I have touched on this before.... I have seen it and experienced it. Everything being discussed in the past couple of days has been somewhat common for me.
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In reply to Redstone • 5:47p, 12/7/24
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Redstone said:
ESP is scientifically validated. Watch the trailer

https://thetelepathytapes.com/
These are phenomenal and I just finished listening to them.
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Eliminatus said:
TCTTS said:
This seems to be the growing consensus…

I've been thinking about this one. I saw part of Joe Rogan's latest podcast with John McPhee. (One of the most legendary Delta Force operators to have ever existed for those who don't know) That dude is probably a straight sociopath but told of how in the Middle East there were certain places he didn't want to go in because he felt they were evil. Man, that caught my attention. Because I know EXACTLY what he is talking about.

It's at the 33:35 mark



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I wanted to talk about that. There's real ****ing evil in the world and in Iraq and Afghanistan you go into these ****ed up places where they, ya know, were raping, beheading people, ****ing tribal **** forever. Like there were buildings I didn't even want to ****ing go in there. And you'd go and you'd be like every ****ing hair on my body would be standing up and I mean at the doorway and be like, "I don't even want to clear this ****ing building." You know what and I don't know ****ing why but I know there's ****ing old evil in this world.
Rough transcript of it.

I spent about 20 minutes trying to find an old post I had typed up years ago about an experience I had in Iraq but I am positive now it got ate up in the great F16 purge. I was a grunt overseas and during a particular operation we were sweeping an entire area looking for IED factories. Now, it's not something I ever really talk about, or even admit to myself, but I guess most would probably consider me "sensitive" to some things if you believe in such things. Don't know why. Been that forever.

Anyways, I was point man (first in line) and approached a building like so many others. Nothing of note had been happening and we were tired as hell and been running around for about 36 hours already. As we got closer to the front door the procedure we just knock and talk first. So we do that and no on answered. So I force the door and step in. I froze. Huge no no. We don't freeze in doorways. But man, I had such a wave of something that it disoriented me completely. I truly cannot describe it. Only that not only did the building feel wrong, I felt wrong. Enough that I backed out and halted the rest of the squad. Not a big deal really and I played it off as the first slab (slab floor) felt off. Can't ***** out so steel myself and go back in. Nothing looks out of place. Just another empty Iraqi house. But just like McPhee said, every hair is standing up and I feel sick and gross and like there is no hope in the world. The best way I think I can describe it was a massive oppressive blanket of some sorts just smothering you. Just....heavy. Search the house and get to the back and I go through the last door. Turns out it's a ****ing torture and execution house.

We had no way of knowing that place existed. I have tried to convey to people in the past that our wars there were awful. Zero argument there. We did bad things to them, they did bad things to us. But damn me if the things they did to each other is truly unfathomable to civilized western culture. I held the knives in my own hands while looking at the bloodstains. No bodies thankfully.

I honestly don't know why I try to downplay or ignore this area so much. I FELT that house before I discovered that back area. If I were writing a book, I would say I could feel the despair that place generated. I am glad to say our battalion commander ordered the house destroyed and since I happened to be the demo guy as well on site, I am the one who got to pull smoke and blow it up myself. One of the extremely few days I actually felt good overseas.

McPhee also goes on to mention he felt the same way at Gettysburg. Definitely have heard that from others. This talk of psionics is never something I have ever taken seriously and even scoffed at in the past. I will also say though that with my experiences, the above only being a fraction, I have no idea why I am like that. I probably should be more open. Especially since I know the very real probability of energies/forces that we simply cannot reliably detect yet. Our instrumentation is ever expanding and evolving.


ETA: No one else felt anything like this at all. I subtly asked around the following days.
Thank you all for reading my presentation. Snacks and drinks will be available in the lobby.
You aren't alone in the way you feel. It's been somewhat a part of me since my childhood.
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TCTTS said:
Wow, thanks for sharing. That's incredibly interesting, and also super creepy.

I really do think it all comes back to consciousness being the baseline of/fundamental to all reality. If so, to that end, we're all connected on a quantum level, part of the same "consciousness field," hence ESP, intuition, being able to "sense" certain things, etc. It really would explain so much.
This is what will be the next massive scientific breakthrough. We all have it, but very few of us know how to use it and harness it.

Google Penrose Microtubules. We are all pseudo quantum computers that can harness the 'spooky' of quantum theory and application.
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AgBQ-00 said:
TCTTS said:


This one is very interesting too. Reminds me of one of the videos of the UAPs that shift from that shape to a round then to triangle.
ETA: Reddit SEEMS to have solved this one? It's possibly a power line marker for helos. I rewatched the vid and still a couple things that don't quite add up to me. Size seems too big still, Orientation is 90 degrees off, and height is waaaay to high from camera perspective it appears and no telephone poles close to it. Also no significant elevation in area. Hmmmm......


It is a power line marker. You can literally see the power lines going right through it.
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Duckhook said:
Eliminatus said:
AgBQ-00 said:
TCTTS said:


This one is very interesting too. Reminds me of one of the videos of the UAPs that shift from that shape to a round then to triangle.
ETA: Reddit SEEMS to have solved this one? It's possibly a power line marker for helos. I rewatched the vid and still a couple things that don't quite add up to me. Size seems too big still, Orientation is 90 degrees off, and height is waaaay to high from camera perspective it appears and no telephone poles close to it. Also no significant elevation in area. Hmmmm......


It is a power line marker. You can literally see the power lines going right through it.
Ha, no not this picture. This was a sample picture I posted of another taken at night of something odd that was going around that could have been it. And it was confirmed that it was in fact, one of these.
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TCTTS said:
Wow, thanks for sharing. That's incredibly interesting, and also super creepy.

I really do think it all comes back to consciousness being the baseline of/fundamental to all reality. If so, to that end, we're all connected on a quantum level, part of the same "consciousness field," hence ESP, intuition, being able to "sense" certain things, etc. It really would explain so much.
I know there is still so much "hard" science we have yet to discover. And so much we likely never will. I think I struggle with the more abstract "soft" sciences because most times it is impossible to quantify.

Yet, I also cannot deny the power of empathy. Which is a form of sensory stimulus that cannot be detected yet many people exhibit. Or my own experiences which honestly, are pretty wild. So if something as simple as empathy can exist, why not something more complicated like residual energies from massive stimulus events? John McPhee mentioned also feeling sick at Gettysburg and I have heard that before. My experience in Iraq I have felt similarly elsewhere. At Dachau, the concentration camp. However, there I knew what it was obviously before I got there so it is not quite the same really I guess. But if all those can exist, then there is probably something that we humans have that is not physical yet can key in on in certain circumstances. Maybe it is just some old animal intuition we lost over the millennia. There is nothing on this Earth (mindful of this thread) that even comes close to the complexity and mystery of the human mind of which I don't even think we have truly scraped the surface of yet.

What I can say though, is that some places simply feel different to me than others. And when a place makes me feel uncomfortable, and I find out something bad about it, it no longer surprises me. Just nod and be like, "yeah, that sounds bout right"
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https://mace.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/mace.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/Cannon%20212_20241113_154539.pdf
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Answer is ….

All or one is bad!

Adversaries mocking air defense

USG causing a civilian freakout by irresponsibly testing advanced tech in neighborhoods

Alien origin craft deciding they don't need to be stealth

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The silence is deafening.

So, so weird.
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Interesting, who knew that zero point energy was flammable?
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The "drone" situation… I'm not sure either. But here's what I'm confident in…

I've taken my time and engaged in substantive conversations with a handful of trusted individuals, who are directly involved with responding to the events unfolding in our skies (at various levels)… both nationally and internationally.

Some of the individuals I have spoken with have captured, observed, or been part of the analysis teams processing the FLIR data/imagery of the units penetrating the airspace enveloping our sensitive U.S. installations (my focus has been location based).

These individuals include government contractors with significant threat identification responsibilities, personnel working directly within sensitive U.S. infrastructure facilities in analysis roles, and others holding strategic defense roles, specifically.

They are ALL independent contacts (NOT part of the UFO world and NOT cross-communicating).

I have known ALL of these individuals for a significant amount of time, and they have earned my trust.

Each individually holds positions that provide access to NON-public information related to these recent incursion events - and most - in real time.

What I CAN report definitively is that SOME of the morphology of the units RECORDED is "inconsistent with any conventional hardware" or "traditionally propelled" aerial vehicles (that WE are currently aware of).

Some ARE "definitively consistent" with KNOWN designs - but are of unknown origin (unknown to those reporting to me).

The general consensus is that the United States has an exquisite capability to trace and track the origin of any UAS (Unmanned Aerospace System) entering and exiting protected/restricted airspace.

It is my personal observation that this has led to collective confusion and extra-departmental glances seeking direction (from local to Federal, and vice versa). And that this aspect of the unfolding situation is both fascinating, and revealing.

There is ALSO a clear and shared sense that much of this activity is being "allowed" to happen - with ambiguity actively encouraged.

This leaves me with more questions than answers - as I am sure it does for you, too. Which seems reasonable, and likely intentional - given what we know about the structure and capabilities of American defense systems.

Just reporting the news as I trust it (at this time) and as I've learned it.

Goodnight, and good luck.
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Mitch Herberg joke re: Bigfoot would work well here
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I'm not saying I buy this, I'm just throwing it out there...


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So the "mystery drones" are in New Jersey, and they've been hanging around for a while.

They're capable of out maneuvering advanced military jets, they don't seem to need to land, and are immune to drone-jamming tech. There are reports that some of them have been seen coming out of the ocean.

A lot of people are latching onto the "it's advanced drones from China" theory - I don't buy it. Why, exactly, would the Chinese government go to all the trouble of creating ultra high tech spy drones with technologically superior low observability just to immediately give up their ability to operate in a clandestine manner (which is what they were created for) and light them up like Christmas trees, effectively turning them into targets waiting to be shot down.

Others are latching onto the "it's the USG testing advanced tech over friendly skies" theory. I don't buy this either. Testing of advanced, experimental tech is a thing that happens under tightly controlled conditions, and never *openly* over civilian skies - it not only causes a panic, but it's the same problem as the Chinese Spy Drone theory: why would the US give up any strategic advantage that they would have with these drones by publicly displaying their capabilities, against their own military in some cases, risking secret, experimental assets being destroyed, or captured by elements of the military that aren't cleared to know about these assets?

My take?

I think a lot of what we're seeing are NHI creating craft that are mimicking human craft, for the purposes of acclimating us to their presence in our sky. And while some of them look like tiny, vaguely airplane-shaped things, but some look much stranger. It seems the longer this UAP flap goes on, the weirder these "drones" are starting to look - again, almost like we're being "acclimated."

But hey - folks are free to believe what they want. The thing is - this won't be the last UAP flap. They keep happening, with increasing frequency, and eventually those of you who refuse to entertain any notion that falls outside of your worldview will be forced to confront a new sort of reality. And without mentally preparing yourself, that's not gonna be fun.

Don't say I didn't warn you
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This drone stuff is pretty wild, but the way people are politicizing it kind of gives me the feeling it's much ado about nothing.

Was there anything else about whatever crashed in one of those tweets? Obviously, taking a closer look at a crashed drone, or even intercepting/capturing one, would give a lot of info about manufacturer, place of origin, purpose and all that. Have there been any reported attempts for any agency to physically follow one of these things? I've only been able to follow along a little from this thread, lately.

Final, mostly unrelated, comment. Single seat personal drone craft exist, and I imagine most people that might see one are unaware and could be unsure what it was if they saw it. Not that there are swarms of those things out flying around, or anything.

Really interesting that no one seems to want to say much about these. Lots of speculation, though.
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I wonder how many unique, really weird sightings there have been, and how much of it is social media (or Telephone Game) amplification.
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The governor today validated that he and Feds don't have answers. Obviously they could be lying, but then you combine that with many freaked out observers with their cameras all over social media ….
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Are these 'drones' only coming out at night or is this happening all day and night? This is so bizarre.
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I wrote a big long thoughtful post and then apparently hit "cancel" instead of "submit."

Or maybe they're jamming my signals.
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