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In reply to Houston Lee • 1:39p, 11/13/24
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Personally, I don't think they'll find ***** Not because of incompetence or anything, but because these programs/funds are apparently so well-hidden. We shall see, though.
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In reply to TCTTS • 1:41p, 11/13/24
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Personally, I don't think they'll find ***** Not because of incompetence or anything, but because these programs/funds are apparently so well-hidden. We shall see, though.
Well Hidden does not mean they are not disguised under the name of another program, but the money ends up in the UAP program. And these other programs being used to hide the money, may be ones that get the axe by DOGE. It will be interesting to watch...

Like Elon may be thinking they are getting rid of 20 programs about basket weaving worth a few billion dollars, only to actually be one that funds the UAP and they never realize it...
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In reply to TCTTS • 2:14p, 11/13/24
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This makes me think of the cylon raider model. It is ludicrous to think about but that is what pops into mind
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2:33p, 11/13/24
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Finally able to listen in. Gold made a very good point during Frost's questioning. Gold pointed out that if all we had to study black holes with was aircraft gun cameras, we probably wouldn't know much about black holes. You can't do good science on UAPs with cell phones. A thinly veiled appeal to increasing funding for NASA imaging equipment, yes, but he's not wrong. Gun cameras and FLIR pods are not designed to capture scientific data on UAPs.
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2:36p, 11/13/24
Anything accelerating at 3000g manipulates space time, which elizondo and others have already said they do. Would surpass light speed in a couple of hours
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In reply to LuoJi • 2:39p, 11/13/24
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Anything accelerating at 3000g manipulates space time, which elizondo and others have already said they do. Would surpass light speed in a couple of hours
Not necessarily if you could produce your own mini spacetime bubble surrounding the craft. To the observer outside of the craft, it would look ludicrous. It would look like it defies every known law of physics. To the person within the craft, it would be just another normal day on Earth.

btw - what I just stated absolutely checks out with our current understanding of physics.
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2:51p, 11/13/24
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Matt Gaetz for Attorney General is an absolute joke, but in attempt to find a silver lining, at least he's yet another appointment in favor of disclosure...

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https://mace.house.gov/immaculateconstellation
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In reply to TKEAg04 • 3:02p, 11/13/24
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TKEAg04 said:
LuoJi said:
Anything accelerating at 3000g manipulates space time, which elizondo and others have already said they do. Would surpass light speed in a couple of hours
Not necessarily if you could produce your own mini spacetime bubble surrounding the craft. To the observer outside of the craft, it would look ludicrous. It would look like it defies every known law of physics. To the person within the craft, it would be just another normal day on Earth.

btw - what I just stated absolutely checks out with our current understanding of physics.

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4:48p, 11/13/24
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This is waaaay bigger than partisan politics - large enough for TCCNS and I to be allies.

I again encourage people to read Howard Storm's (short) book and search his name with "aliens" (find the videos, honest guy and amazing story) and to watch James Fox documentaries, and to listen to Joe Rogan with Travis Walton.

It's happening. Higher intelligences, inter-dimensional, USG agreements for tech, contractor hiding to avoid FOIA, uge black box budgets, mix of good and less so, some material components.

EXACTLY like I've been saying here since Spring 99, Blocker computer lab sign-up for TexAgs - many timeouts, no bans, never socked.

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My I TOLD YOU SO will be this thread
Stay tuned
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In reply to Redstone • 4:52p, 11/13/24
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Excellent post; however, I did know about disclosure before you
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10:32a, 11/14/24
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There is nothing on The New York Times website about Wednesday's House subcommittee hearing on UAPs ….. Nothing in the Washington Post….USA Today has a good piece up

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/11/13/ufo-hearing-takeaways-uap-congress/76249251007/
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In reply to TCTTS • 10:46a, 11/14/24
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I read the whole document, and I'm a little confused as to who wrote it. It seems to be Shellenberger's synopsis of the things he was told by his source(s). I don't believe this is any kind of "official" report or documentation. Kind of disappointing, honestly.
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He was not at the hearing, pulled at last minute, why
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6:09p, 11/14/24
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This should be next step of Disclosure -

- USG has recovered between 10 and 15 flying saucers
- USG has between 30 and 50 alien bodies in cryogenic storage
- The bodies represent at least 5 alien civilizations

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After this, disclose 900+ Galactic Federation bases on Earth - inside our mountains, lakes and oceans
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In reply to TCTTS • 7:41a, 11/15/24
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When Trump takes office it will be almost 5 yrs since the Pentagon officially released the infamous Navy UAP videos ... and a bit over 19 months since Grusch's 2023 story that kick started the current UAP craze. Still no first-hand whistleblowers though - correct? Given the pro-disclosure views of many of Trump's appointees (sans Musk), if incontrovertible evidence exists we should expect it within Trump's first 18 months. A reasonable expectation IMO.

So, 3 yrs post-Grusch and 18 months post-Trump is about July 4, 2026. Easy day to remember and IMO seems like a fair cutoff to reassess if the UAP needle moved.
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I applaud the hearings but some kind of disclosure conclusion without evidence isn't going to move the needle.
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In reply to Redstone • 9:33a, 11/15/24
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This should be next step of Disclosure -

- USG has recovered between 10 and 15 flying saucers
- USG has between 30 and 50 alien bodies in cryogenic storage
- The bodies represent at least 5 alien civilizations

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After this, disclose 900+ Galactic Federation bases on Earth - inside our mountains, lakes and oceans



It's this "900+ Galactic Federation bases" level stuff that will continue to make this a non-serious issue for most people until someone drags an unambiguous alien body out.
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In reply to TCTTS • 9:49a, 11/15/24
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So basically, someone smart needs to convince Trump this is worth the time and effort. Trump was asked directly by Rogan about UAP so it's not like he'd be blindsided. Sadly Trump seemed only superficially interested in the subject.

Hopefully there's people on his transition team who care about this and surely there are. If any President will release this stuff, it's him, and he doesn't need to be reelected.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to Joes • 10:00a, 11/15/24
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Joes said:
Redstone said:
This should be next step of Disclosure -

- USG has recovered between 10 and 15 flying saucers
- USG has between 30 and 50 alien bodies in cryogenic storage
- The bodies represent at least 5 alien civilizations

Edit:
After this, disclose 900+ Galactic Federation bases on Earth - inside our mountains, lakes and oceans



It's this "900+ Galactic Federation bases" level stuff that will continue to make this a non-serious issue for most people until someone drags an unambiguous alien body out.


Even if that body gets dragged out people will say it's fake.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to BenFiasco14 • 3:38p, 11/15/24
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BenFiasco14 said:
Joes said:
Redstone said:
This should be next step of Disclosure -

- USG has recovered between 10 and 15 flying saucers
- USG has between 30 and 50 alien bodies in cryogenic storage
- The bodies represent at least 5 alien civilizations

Edit:
After this, disclose 900+ Galactic Federation bases on Earth - inside our mountains, lakes and oceans



It's this "900+ Galactic Federation bases" level stuff that will continue to make this a non-serious issue for most people until someone drags an unambiguous alien body out.


Even if that body gets dragged out people will say it's fake.
This is probably true, but that's due to the constant fakes and lying that happens every day in almost every facet of life. Hell, National Inquirer has been printing about alien bodies for how many years? People are still claiming the Peru mummy thing is real. There was that video posted here about that guy that was a conduit for an alien to talk to us...
Etc
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In reply to Agristotle • 5:25p, 11/15/24
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Agristotle said:
I applaud the hearings but some kind of disclosure conclusion without evidence isn't going to move the needle.

Congress is essentially attempting to build a case. The point of the hearings is to get these officials/pilots/whistleblowers/journalists/etc on the public record, under oath, so that Congress can then use official testimony to try and pass proper whistleblower protection legislation, which eventually - and legally - leads to the real evidence being brought out into the light. It's a long, drawn-out process, one that may or may not work. Personally, I think the only thing that's going to move the needle is illegal leaks, but I'm willing to let them try it this way first, especially with such a pro-disclosure cabinet now being put in place.
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5:31p, 11/15/24
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Can't wait to dive into this. Pines has quickly become one of my favorite voices in the field, and Michels is the perfect host for this kind of interview...


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Beyond insane 4 hour+ conversation with Matthew Pines (@matthew_pines) who I am convinced is the most clear, cogent communicator on UFOs, their near term outlook, inside-the-beltway government dynamics and the new UFO physics likely coming down the pike. Link in reply. We discuss:

1. Matt's worldview: America is a nuclear monarchy wrapped inside a representative democracy wrapped inside a managerial technocracy wrapped inside a financial oligarchy.

2. The levers of control with UFOs. Elite groups behind the CIA, the mysterious Carlyle group. A revolving door of intelligence and private industry. The actual gatekeepers of the program.

3. Physical theories of consciousness (I.e. Penrose) and Matt's belief Wolfram (@stephen_wolfram) and Gorard (@getjonwithit) come the closest in describing the information theoretic principles behind higher dimensional "branchial" space the UFOs exist in

4. We discuss UFO disclosure in the Trump era. What cascading disclosure on other fronts means for disclosing the nature of reality. We get into what comes next: how UFOs intersect with AI and quantum computing into an "apocalyptic singularity"

5. Secret midcentury physics breakthroughs. Neutrino detectors. Scalar fields. Casimir and negative energy effects. Matt also provides further evidence for @EricRWeinstein theories for a secret physics program in Long Island that Eric discussed on Joe Rogan (@joerogan)

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