Personally, I don't think they'll find ***** Not because of incompetence or anything, but because these programs/funds are apparently so well-hidden. We shall see, though.
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Well Hidden does not mean they are not disguised under the name of another program, but the money ends up in the UAP program. And these other programs being used to hide the money, may be ones that get the axe by DOGE. It will be interesting to watch...TCTTS said:
Personally, I don't think they'll find ***** Not because of incompetence or anything, but because these programs/funds are apparently so well-hidden. We shall see, though.
Like Elon may be thinking they are getting rid of 20 programs about basket weaving worth a few billion dollars, only to actually be one that funds the UAP and they never realize it...
Lue Elizondo testifies that we have communicated with UFO related non-human life-forms.
— UAP James (@UAPJames) November 13, 2024
“Definitively, yes.”#UAPHearing #ufox #uap pic.twitter.com/S9qjwBGtPt
#UFOx #UFOtwitter #UAP #NHI
— wow (@wow36932525) November 13, 2024
"Biologics have been recovered"
Bodies "Yes" pic.twitter.com/jbb2SYCZVr
Lue Elizondo testifies that the U.S. Government operates secret UFO crash retrieval programs designed to identify and reverse-engineer alien craft.
— UAP James (@UAPJames) November 13, 2024
Elizondo confirms that Government employees have been injured in “UAP incidents.”#ufox #ufo #UAPHearing pic.twitter.com/1tJLbnjGnW
Michael Shellenberger: “The US military and intelligence community are sitting on a HUGE amount of … still photos, video, other sensor information” on UAPs/UFOs.
— Holden Culotta (@Holden_Culotta) November 13, 2024
“High-resolution.”
Rep. Nancy Mace: “How many?”
Shellenberger: “I’ve been told hundreds, maybe thousands.”… pic.twitter.com/9ww6gYQKu6
Rep. Anna Paulina Luna asks Lue Elizondo about UAP pilots and whether they are interdimensional or “living craft”
— UAP James (@UAPJames) November 13, 2024
Elizondo says UAP are tracked up to 3,000 G-force
“We are constantly having to re-evaluate what the definition of life is.”#ufox #ufo #UAPHearing @realannapaulina pic.twitter.com/PIwn3LhRql
TB: “Last year as you know he [DG] testified that the U.S. has run a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program. Would you agree with that?”
— UFOs&Disclosure (@uaphenomenon) November 13, 2024
LE: “Yessir.”
TB: “Are there UAP programs operating without proper congressional oversight?”
“LE: “100%”#ufoX pic.twitter.com/DgFrHYCNUm
🚨 ☢️ Rep. Ogles and @LueElizondo dig into the UAP-Nuclear-DoE connection pic.twitter.com/yisFb9z5R7
— Disclosure Diaries (@Disclosure_D) November 13, 2024
Lue Elizondo CANNOT discuss whether he was read into a UAP Crash Retrieval Program.
— Christopher Sharp (@ChrisUKSharp) November 13, 2024
This is HUGE.
— Joe Murgia (@TheUfoJoe) November 13, 2024
This makes me think of the cylon raider model. It is ludicrous to think about but that is what pops into mindTCTTS said:Rep. Anna Paulina Luna asks Lue Elizondo about UAP pilots and whether they are interdimensional or “living craft”
— UAP James (@UAPJames) November 13, 2024
Elizondo says UAP are tracked up to 3,000 G-force
“We are constantly having to re-evaluate what the definition of life is.”#ufox #ufo #UAPHearing @realannapaulina pic.twitter.com/PIwn3LhRql
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
Finally able to listen in. Gold made a very good point during Frost's questioning. Gold pointed out that if all we had to study black holes with was aircraft gun cameras, we probably wouldn't know much about black holes. You can't do good science on UAPs with cell phones. A thinly veiled appeal to increasing funding for NASA imaging equipment, yes, but he's not wrong. Gun cameras and FLIR pods are not designed to capture scientific data on UAPs.
Anything accelerating at 3000g manipulates space time, which elizondo and others have already said they do. Would surpass light speed in a couple of hours
Not necessarily if you could produce your own mini spacetime bubble surrounding the craft. To the observer outside of the craft, it would look ludicrous. It would look like it defies every known law of physics. To the person within the craft, it would be just another normal day on Earth.LuoJi said:
Anything accelerating at 3000g manipulates space time, which elizondo and others have already said they do. Would surpass light speed in a couple of hours
btw - what I just stated absolutely checks out with our current understanding of physics.
Matt Gaetz for Attorney General is an absolute joke, but in attempt to find a silver lining, at least he's yet another appointment in favor of disclosure...
Trump Selects Matt Gaetz for Attorney General
— UAP James (@UAPJames) November 13, 2024
Last month, Gaetz said UFO recovery programs should be made public.
“That’s where I would start: The craft recovery and the biologics that have been taken from those crafts.”#ufox #uap pic.twitter.com/4B4x4LbcgL
TKEAg04 said:Not necessarily if you could produce your own mini spacetime bubble surrounding the craft. To the observer outside of the craft, it would look ludicrous. It would look like it defies every known law of physics. To the person within the craft, it would be just another normal day on Earth.LuoJi said:
Anything accelerating at 3000g manipulates space time, which elizondo and others have already said they do. Would surpass light speed in a couple of hours
btw - what I just stated absolutely checks out with our current understanding of physics.
The level of detail and nuance in this report on IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION is *extraordinary.*
— MarikvR (@MvonRen) November 13, 2024
Is the document:
1. An elaborate fabrication
2. Disinformation (e.g., counter-intelligence)
3. Legitimate
H/t @JeremyCorbell for getting this out todayhttps://t.co/TLJDaMyVh3 pic.twitter.com/cWhlipQofg
Any part of the federal government knowingly concealing evidence about UAP from the public?
— Mike Colangelo (@MikeColangelo) November 13, 2024
"Yes Sir." - Timothy Gallaudet
"100%." - Lue Elizondo
"Yes." - Michael Shellenberger
"Yes." - Mike Gold
What do you believe UAP could be or are?
"Strong evidence that they are non-human… pic.twitter.com/cAIWgrccu3
This is waaaay bigger than partisan politics - large enough for TCCNS and I to be allies.
I again encourage people to read Howard Storm's (short) book and search his name with "aliens" (find the videos, honest guy and amazing story) and to watch James Fox documentaries, and to listen to Joe Rogan with Travis Walton.
It's happening. Higher intelligences, inter-dimensional, USG agreements for tech, contractor hiding to avoid FOIA, uge black box budgets, mix of good and less so, some material components.
EXACTLY like I've been saying here since Spring 99, Blocker computer lab sign-up for TexAgs - many timeouts, no bans, never socked.
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My I TOLD YOU SO will be this thread
Stay tuned
I again encourage people to read Howard Storm's (short) book and search his name with "aliens" (find the videos, honest guy and amazing story) and to watch James Fox documentaries, and to listen to Joe Rogan with Travis Walton.
It's happening. Higher intelligences, inter-dimensional, USG agreements for tech, contractor hiding to avoid FOIA, uge black box budgets, mix of good and less so, some material components.
EXACTLY like I've been saying here since Spring 99, Blocker computer lab sign-up for TexAgs - many timeouts, no bans, never socked.
Edit:
My I TOLD YOU SO will be this thread
Stay tuned
Excellent post; however, I did know about disclosure before you
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
There is nothing on The New York Times website about Wednesday's House subcommittee hearing on UAPs ….. Nothing in the Washington Post….USA Today has a good piece up
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/11/13/ufo-hearing-takeaways-uap-congress/76249251007/
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/11/13/ufo-hearing-takeaways-uap-congress/76249251007/
I read the whole document, and I'm a little confused as to who wrote it. It seems to be Shellenberger's synopsis of the things he was told by his source(s). I don't believe this is any kind of "official" report or documentation. Kind of disappointing, honestly.
Karl 'Zero Doubt' Nell - Global Disclosure Day
— Mike Colangelo (@MikeColangelo) October 20, 2024
"There's zero doubt this is absolutely true, I know this personally."
1) Life is common in the universe
2) Faster than light travel is theoretically possible
3) Testimony from folks who would know
4) Evidence of advanced non-humans… pic.twitter.com/O3xIfUHGwM
He was not at the hearing, pulled at last minute, why
This should be next step of Disclosure -
- USG has recovered between 10 and 15 flying saucers
- USG has between 30 and 50 alien bodies in cryogenic storage
- The bodies represent at least 5 alien civilizations
Edit:
After this, disclose 900+ Galactic Federation bases on Earth - inside our mountains, lakes and oceans
- USG has recovered between 10 and 15 flying saucers
- USG has between 30 and 50 alien bodies in cryogenic storage
- The bodies represent at least 5 alien civilizations
Edit:
After this, disclose 900+ Galactic Federation bases on Earth - inside our mountains, lakes and oceans
🧵 After taking some time, I’ve tried to gather my thoughts about the UAP hearing as concisely as possible, and it starts with the idea that "information is 9/10ths of the law".
— Lester Nare (@lesternare) November 15, 2024
And yes, this dynamic has existed for 80 years - from Blue Book to AATIP to today. Each era has faced the same fundamental problem: the executive branch's monopoly on information, exacerbated by stigma and lack of funding for independent studies.
— Lester Nare (@lesternare) November 15, 2024
Consider last July's UAP hearing and the subsequent UAP Disclosure Act of 2023.
— Lester Nare (@lesternare) November 15, 2024
The partial passage shows what's possible when Congress starts getting information - but also highlights the limits when they don't have the full picture.
Here's another layer: The information is intentionally siloed and stove-piped. Maybe 8 people on Earth have the full picture. Everyone else sees fragments, without understanding how their piece connects to others.
— Lester Nare (@lesternare) November 15, 2024
This increases the risk of collateral damage of any disclosure.
Each hearing builds on the last - not just recent ones, but decades of efforts.
— Lester Nare (@lesternare) November 15, 2024
We're not starting over; we're building on a foundation that includes everything from Bluebook to the 2023 amendments.
For example, the dozens of pro-disclosure or on-the-record statements by…
But here's where it gets interesting: We now have multiple pro-disclosure cabinet nominees in key positions in the upcoming administration.
— Lester Nare (@lesternare) November 15, 2024
The executive branch's grip on information might be loosening.
The information asymmetry is starting to shift. Yesterday's hearing isn't only about what was said - it's about who gets to decide what happens next.
— Lester Nare (@lesternare) November 15, 2024
That's the real story to watch.
BREAKING:
— MarikvR (@MvonRen) November 15, 2024
*Extraordinary* comments from the new AARO director:
“There are interesting cases that I — with my physics and engineering background and time in the IC — I do not understand and I don’t know anybody else who understands.”
H/t @BrandiVincent_https://t.co/b72gI0LOPj pic.twitter.com/qqb83sGZU6
This is an historic and unprecedented moment:
— MarikvR (@MvonRen) November 15, 2024
After 80 years of denial, derision and ridicule of *highly* credible UAP reports, the US’s top UFO analyst admits that not only is the government perplexed by some cases, it is also requesting public assistance in understanding them. pic.twitter.com/1HTJXNfe27
When Trump takes office it will be almost 5 yrs since the Pentagon officially released the infamous Navy UAP videos ... and a bit over 19 months since Grusch's 2023 story that kick started the current UAP craze. Still no first-hand whistleblowers though - correct? Given the pro-disclosure views of many of Trump's appointees (sans Musk), if incontrovertible evidence exists we should expect it within Trump's first 18 months. A reasonable expectation IMO.
So, 3 yrs post-Grusch and 18 months post-Trump is about July 4, 2026. Easy day to remember and IMO seems like a fair cutoff to reassess if the UAP needle moved.
So, 3 yrs post-Grusch and 18 months post-Trump is about July 4, 2026. Easy day to remember and IMO seems like a fair cutoff to reassess if the UAP needle moved.
I applaud the hearings but some kind of disclosure conclusion without evidence isn't going to move the needle.
Redstone said:
This should be next step of Disclosure -
- USG has recovered between 10 and 15 flying saucers
- USG has between 30 and 50 alien bodies in cryogenic storage
- The bodies represent at least 5 alien civilizations
Edit:
After this, disclose 900+ Galactic Federation bases on Earth - inside our mountains, lakes and oceans
It's this "900+ Galactic Federation bases" level stuff that will continue to make this a non-serious issue for most people until someone drags an unambiguous alien body out.
So basically, someone smart needs to convince Trump this is worth the time and effort. Trump was asked directly by Rogan about UAP so it's not like he'd be blindsided. Sadly Trump seemed only superficially interested in the subject.
Hopefully there's people on his transition team who care about this and surely there are. If any President will release this stuff, it's him, and he doesn't need to be reelected.
Hopefully there's people on his transition team who care about this and surely there are. If any President will release this stuff, it's him, and he doesn't need to be reelected.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Joes said:Redstone said:
This should be next step of Disclosure -
- USG has recovered between 10 and 15 flying saucers
- USG has between 30 and 50 alien bodies in cryogenic storage
- The bodies represent at least 5 alien civilizations
Edit:
After this, disclose 900+ Galactic Federation bases on Earth - inside our mountains, lakes and oceans
It's this "900+ Galactic Federation bases" level stuff that will continue to make this a non-serious issue for most people until someone drags an unambiguous alien body out.
Even if that body gets dragged out people will say it's fake.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
This is probably true, but that's due to the constant fakes and lying that happens every day in almost every facet of life. Hell, National Inquirer has been printing about alien bodies for how many years? People are still claiming the Peru mummy thing is real. There was that video posted here about that guy that was a conduit for an alien to talk to us...BenFiasco14 said:Joes said:Redstone said:
This should be next step of Disclosure -
- USG has recovered between 10 and 15 flying saucers
- USG has between 30 and 50 alien bodies in cryogenic storage
- The bodies represent at least 5 alien civilizations
Edit:
After this, disclose 900+ Galactic Federation bases on Earth - inside our mountains, lakes and oceans
It's this "900+ Galactic Federation bases" level stuff that will continue to make this a non-serious issue for most people until someone drags an unambiguous alien body out.
Even if that body gets dragged out people will say it's fake.
Etc
Agristotle said:
I applaud the hearings but some kind of disclosure conclusion without evidence isn't going to move the needle.
Congress is essentially attempting to build a case. The point of the hearings is to get these officials/pilots/whistleblowers/journalists/etc on the public record, under oath, so that Congress can then use official testimony to try and pass proper whistleblower protection legislation, which eventually - and legally - leads to the real evidence being brought out into the light. It's a long, drawn-out process, one that may or may not work. Personally, I think the only thing that's going to move the needle is illegal leaks, but I'm willing to let them try it this way first, especially with such a pro-disclosure cabinet now being put in place.
Can't wait to dive into this. Pines has quickly become one of my favorite voices in the field, and Michels is the perfect host for this kind of interview...
Beyond insane 4 hour+ conversation with Matthew Pines (@matthew_pines) who I am convinced is the most clear, cogent communicator on UFOs, their near term outlook, inside-the-beltway government dynamics and the new UFO physics likely coming down the pike. Link in reply. We… pic.twitter.com/HZ8Oq0wBCv
— Jesse Michels (@AlchemyAmerican) November 15, 2024
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Beyond insane 4 hour+ conversation with Matthew Pines (@matthew_pines) who I am convinced is the most clear, cogent communicator on UFOs, their near term outlook, inside-the-beltway government dynamics and the new UFO physics likely coming down the pike. Link in reply. We discuss:
1. Matt's worldview: America is a nuclear monarchy wrapped inside a representative democracy wrapped inside a managerial technocracy wrapped inside a financial oligarchy.
2. The levers of control with UFOs. Elite groups behind the CIA, the mysterious Carlyle group. A revolving door of intelligence and private industry. The actual gatekeepers of the program.
3. Physical theories of consciousness (I.e. Penrose) and Matt's belief Wolfram (@stephen_wolfram) and Gorard (@getjonwithit) come the closest in describing the information theoretic principles behind higher dimensional "branchial" space the UFOs exist in
4. We discuss UFO disclosure in the Trump era. What cascading disclosure on other fronts means for disclosing the nature of reality. We get into what comes next: how UFOs intersect with AI and quantum computing into an "apocalyptic singularity"
5. Secret midcentury physics breakthroughs. Neutrino detectors. Scalar fields. Casimir and negative energy effects. Matt also provides further evidence for @EricRWeinstein theories for a secret physics program in Long Island that Eric discussed on Joe Rogan (@joerogan)