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Disclosure.

It is time.

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Which Presidents Have Seen UFOs? Yep, It's More Than One.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/17/us-presidents-ufo-obsession-00127519

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TCTTS said:

Regardless, these are small quibbles that don't really affect the broader picture or the fact that to have faked these videos would require blockbuster-level expertise in CGI (especially for 2014), all kinds of deep knowledge of physics, knowledge of US military satellites the public had no access to/had never seen before, the frame rates of those satellites, satellite orbits, advanced drone knowledge, etc. Altogether, and this would literally be the greatest video hoax of all time, one that stretches nearly as much credulity as the event itself.
Seeing much larger accounts posting this stuff lately for some reason. Still not sure about the video, the skeptics seem pretty convinced that the video was properly debunked and any decent game creater could reproduce it, while the believers seem to think it wasn't a debunk at all. I don't have enough knowledge in the area to have any kind of informed opinion on that. I did think it was a bit weak in that you have all these elements that are pretty hard to fake and then it used some 90's graphics for a couple of aspects of the zap... like, why go through all that trouble and then not create your own effects for the zap... but, what do I know.

Also, kinda wierd seing the a lot of rift between Ashton and the ufo community.
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Great article. The author, Garrett Graf, was on coast to coast a few nights ago and had a really insightful discussion with George Noory. Highly recommend for people on this thread.
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Agreed. Please do Star the post if you were not the account that has already done so.
edit: I've done quite a bit of lifting on this thread, and would welcome Stars in pages past.
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Mr President Elect said:

TCTTS said:

Regardless, these are small quibbles that don't really affect the broader picture or the fact that to have faked these videos would require blockbuster-level expertise in CGI (especially for 2014), all kinds of deep knowledge of physics, knowledge of US military satellites the public had no access to/had never seen before, the frame rates of those satellites, satellite orbits, advanced drone knowledge, etc. Altogether, and this would literally be the greatest video hoax of all time, one that stretches nearly as much credulity as the event itself.
Seeing much larger accounts posting this stuff lately for some reason. Still not sure about the video, the skeptics seem pretty convinced that the video was properly debunked and any decent game creater could reproduce it, while the believers seem to think it wasn't a debunk at all. I don't have enough knowledge in the area to have any kind of informed opinion on that. I did think it was a bit weak in that you have all these elements that are pretty hard to fake and then it used some 90's graphics for a couple of aspects of the zap... like, why go through all that trouble and then not create your own effects for the zap... but, what do I know.

Also, kinda wierd seing the a lot of rift between Ashton and the ufo community.

I'll be the first to admit that Ashton is a weird, divisive dude. On one hand, he's really, really good at presenting all the info in a clear, concise, and incredibly convincing manner. He's also highly dedicated to and incredibly persistent in getting all the info out there (which is why so many larger accounts are picking up on it - the guy has been everywhere with this stuff). He also genuinely seems to care about "the truth." In other words, he's not making a dime off of this, and seems to have no other motivation than alerting the masses to what he considers to be a massive, unjust cover-up.

But man, he keeps drawing these completely unnecessary lines in the sand, to the point where if you even remotely disagree with him, he blocks you, pegs you as the enemy, and sometimes goes out of his way to smear you. At least on social media. Whereas on video, in his interviews, he seems like a relatively normal, chill dude. Super smart, practical, objective, etc. But on Twitter, it's all become too much of a crusade for him that's gone to his head, to such a strange degree. Granted, he *is* being attacked, and there *are* disinformation campaigns against him and the videos. Enough to make anyone angry/paranoid. But a good chunk of it is because of how he's handling himself, and poking the bear, so to speak, when he totally doesn't have to.
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That's assuming that there isn't any "baggage" that comes with disclosure, which has been hinted at several times.
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True.
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Mr President Elect said:

That's assuming that there isn't any "baggage" that comes with disclosure, which has been hinted at several times.
yep.
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TCTTS said:




Oh. Ok then…
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Probably a balloon of some sort, but this newscast gave me apocalyptic movie vibes for some reason.

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Still haven't had time to watch this, but man is it making waves online. Feels like Grusch is finally going mainstream.
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That's a mylar balloon.
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It looked like a Golden Snitch (if one was painted silver)
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In all seriousness, when/where was this seen and recorded?
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I'm not watching 12 minutes if that…. Does it move around at all or just kind of float there?
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I just posted it b/c it answered redline's question. It's the same video TCTTS posted.

To answer your question though, it just hovers the whole time
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Rocagnante said:

I'm not watching 12 minutes if that…. Does it move around at all or just kind of float there?
It mostly just floats there. Shifts back and forth a few times, but can't really tell if appears to be moving on it's own or riding wind current. The guy in the video does say at one point "maybe it's a balloon of some sort." There are some visible "objects" that the guy refers to as both rods and a tether. At the beginning when he zoomed in, whatever they are reminded me of the wings on the golden snitch in Harry Potter - hence my joke above. Can't tell if it's a rope or cable type thing waving around, or more like some sort of fin adjusting with the wind.

gonna see if the internet has any more info on it
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These silver orbs are being seen and recorded all over the world. Our government has officially acknowledged that they exist, and that they have no clue what they are. I have no idea if this video actually shows one or not, I just found it interesting.
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It must be aliens!
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They're not doing themselves any favors with the hyperbole because clearly it's not a "smoking gun" type of video.
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For the record, I didn't post the "smoking gun" wording and never claimed it was aliens. I just found it intriguing, based on how clear the video is and how stationary the object is. It was more of afterthought following the Grusch thing, which is far bigger news.
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TCTTS said:

These silver orbs are being seen and recorded all over the world. Our government has officially acknowledged that they exist, and that they have no clue what they are. I have no idea if this video actually shows one or not, I just found it interesting.
It is interesting. My hope is that we can get similar videos that aren't nearly 10 years with as much, or better, detail.
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Rocagnante said:

They're not doing themselves any favors with the hyperbole because clearly it's not a "smoking gun" type of video.
It's exactly what the aliens want. This is clearly their Toyota Camry incognito ufo. Like, bring out the Independence Day style crafts or you're going to start losing our interest.
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Mr President Elect said:




Pet Peeve - inventing new acronyms/words to describe the same thing. Is it intended to give the topic more credibility?
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With family for Thanksgiving and learned for the first time about my 70 year old uncles ufo sighting. 3 football crafts in 1975.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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TCTTS said:

For the record, I didn't post the "smoking gun" wording and never claimed it was aliens. I just found it intriguing, based on how clear the video is and how stationary the object is. It was more of afterthought following the Grusch thing, which is far bigger news.


Welp:

Quote:

Smoking Gun footage recorded by DOD contractor Rick Ybarra
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They've spent the better part of a century stigmatizing UFO so it had to be changed by the government for credibility sake.
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The tweet used the term "Anomalous Aerial Vehicles (AAV)"

As opposed to UAP.
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Even I've never heard of AAV. We just need to stick with UAP.
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